Jerri Kerley
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I would go to the UK government‘s gov.uk website, the one where it says „Do I need a UK visa“, enter my nationality and purpose of visit and see what it says.fact, rather than speculation
It‘s a general rule of UK immigration law: you cannot live in the UK for long periods of time through frequent tourist visits.Since my last post I remembered something that may put your mind at ease. I read that the UK was starting to refuse entry to people that would use up their 90 days in the Schengen zone and then hop over to the UK for the next 90. But not for normal tourists. This was for people who would do this repeatedly multiple times in a row. Perhaps your informant was one of these?
The math for this doesn't add up. If, as you say "you need to be able to count back 180 days and not have spent more than 90 of those days in Schengen" then you must wait 90 days before returning after a stay of 90 consecutive days. It is the only way to ensure that you don't get more than 90 days in a 180 day period.The 90-day rule in the Schengen zone means that at any time, you need to be able to count back 180 days and not have spent more than 90 of those days in Schengen. It is a rolling count. It is not that you can pop out for a few days and come back in with another 90-day allowance.
If you spend 88 days in the Schengen zone, leave for a day and come back, you will still only get a couple more days in the Schengen zone.
If you use 90 consecutive days, leave for 2 weeks, then when you come back you will get 2 more weeks in the Schengen countries.
Various calculator tools are available on the internet.
Hmm. You are right. I was thinking 90 days over 90 days. I am going to edit my post. Here is a calculator that people can use.The math for this doesn't add up.
I think that these days, young people are likely to do one of three things:You will save a few Schengen days after GBs Brexit.
Have you ever asked for your options at an embassy?
You need a reason to extend the 90 day period, though it is possible.
how-to-extend-schengen-visa
So far I never thought of it, but do all these young people travel only 3 months within Europe?
And does a national visa (Italy) gives you up to 90 extra days?
There is also an extensive range of working holiday visa arrangements for young adults. My recollection is that these can be accessed by people under the age of 26 from eligible countries. The arrangements are bilateral or multi-lateral.I think that these days, young people are likely to do one of three things:
- stay for the summer (and limit themselves to less than 90 days)
- stay longer on a work or study visa
- not be entirely legal about it
@Rick of Rick and Peg, this topic came up in another thread today and I'd love to share with you a link that I came across. Unlike all the other links to various travelling information websites, this one is a link to a European Commission document, ie the institution who produces the proposals for European Union law. It's from 2014 and quite boring but it touches on the subject of bilateral agreements and CISA (Common Implementation of the Schengen Agreement). The EU is "aware" of these bilateral agreements. ☺I want you to know that there are special cases where it is possible for someone traveling as a tourist in the Schengen zone on an American passport (and some others as well, see below) to stay in the zone for longer than 90 consecutive days.
Thank you for this.@Rick of Rick and Peg, this topic came up in another thread today and I'd love to share with you a link that I came across.
New Zealanders might. Their government put a lot more effort into these bilateral arrangements in the day than the Australian government did, and our Kiwi cousins now reap the benefit of that effort.Thank you for this.
Australians and New Zealanders are lucky with all these bilateral agreements but using them can be tricky. I may be mistaken but I remember reading that some countries require that one must fly in and out of the country to get the extra days and others require land transportation. Imagine driving into one of these countries and then realizing that the only way out is by driving to a country that requires you to fly into it.
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