BeatriceKarjalainen
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- Finished: See post signature.
Doing: C. Levante
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This is not a plan. This is what I did. And it was not hard.Wow, I felt broken when I started on my second day from Roncesvalles. To walk 46.2 km on that day would have been an impossible task for me (well, impossible is nothing, but it would have been very hard). I only reached the 45 km twice during my entire Camino. But if you set your mind to it, it's possible. Good luck!
If I walk too many long days I loose the real reason why I walk the camino.
Men hur som helst satan vad bra vandrat. (Just a "I´m impressed" to Beatrice.
There with you Beatrice, St Jean to Santiago in 21 days, kept going past Roncesvalles into Burguete on day 1, only 30 minutes extra walking but broke the 2 days from St Jean to Pamplona into more even stages, had to give a miss to Eunate alas when I saw the albergue was no longer open so that gave me another good jump.
Longest 2 days were 47 and 49 kms but my day into Parador San Marcos was only 19 kms to allow lots of time to luxuriate in my big treat day.
Really? So you are not one of the individuals in your profile picture then?ooh .... just what i was looking for as i have limited time
The main reason for short days were that I didn't want to get to far ahead of some of my Camino family I met in Azofra. I liked to meet them in the albergues. But in the end I didn't see them for some days and had to wait in Santiago for a day. My last stretch was only 9 km as I wanted to come in to Santiago in the morning and just having to wait 1 day there for my friends before leaving for Finisterre.
I walked:Did you walk to Finisterre or Muxia??
Congratulations on your fast camino frances walk. 23 days is quite fast.
I would like to remind any future peregrinos that the camino is not a marathon. Most peregrinos walked the camino frances in 30 days average with no rest day.
Buen camino to all.
Exactly!I walk fast too.
I know that because other people say I walk fast. (Which means faster than they do, and they comment my way of walking because consider their own speed as the norm)
Myself I think I just walk, in a way that feels natural and comfortable for me.
Exactly!
Coke and chips was a joke. But there was quite a lot soft drinks to lunch and when walking. Needing the energy and a lot of calippo ice cream. I think I had 4 small bags of chips (crisps) on the camino.I think Seville is awaiting you Beatrice.
Everyone walks their own pace .
We have done each camino , in France as well as Spain, to experience the people in the villages and towns.
I noticed that you did not have any vino or bread , just coke and chips........naughty girl
A coke has at least 6 [375ml] to 10 cubes [ 500ml] of sugar and that is the same as Red Bull ..........which my kids use on the biles when doing the iron man training.
Maybe the reason why you had an upset stomach was the food you had with the camino friends when they reached Santiago , before your way to Finasterre.....a change of diet.
We walked the Norte just to try the food in the four great towns on this route.
It takes us plenty of $$ and a day in travel before the jet lag starts when we depart the winter months .....i wish i sometimes could take 90 days.
Seville next year for you Beatrice.
I guess it is a fair comment. I think I reacted as that is common comment as soon as I talk about how I did my camino and during the camino. It seams so legit to tell people who walk fast that they are doing it wrong. I was even yelled at by some Spanish guys at day 22. They were angry because I passed them and told me this is not a competition and so on. So again it is more the sum of all statements about "not normal".Hi beatrice,
Nobody is criticising you for doing the camino frances in 23 days. This was your camino, it is your decision to do what you wish. If this is your normal pace, so be it.
I am just making a fair comment in an open forum for discussion. I do not wished for the future peregrinos who will walk the camino frances thinking it is the norm to do it in 23 days over a distance of almost 800 kilometres.
I was even yelled at by some Spanish guys at day 22. They were angry because I passed them...
And i told they guys that they didn't have to fear that I would take the last beds at the albergue as I had some more km to walk before hitting a bed. That made them even more angry as they thought I saw them as wimps not going as far as me. You can never say the right thing to those people. This was when I was hitting for Vilamayor and they for the last albergue before Monte Gozo.Exactly.
This reminds me of one of the last days when my camino friend and I was walking on the frances.
Ok, it was getting late and I was starting to feel a bit tired and sweaty. And we had decided to stop at a certain place where there was a small private albergue.
And we came to a hill, not horrible but still there was a cluster of walkers spread out all over it in various stages of walking slooowky/catching their breath/spitting blood. And I thought of the combo lots of tired walkers+ very few beds= I got to pass the whole bunch.
Right. And I said "Nu jävlar".
And started to walk in a moderate speed up the hill passing them one by one and when half way up increase the speed and finally when on top of the hill, start walking very fast indeed, leaving all of them far behind. Which ment I was first at the albergue, my friend coming after and we got the last two beds.Then in to the shower quickly so I could go down to the bar and and sit there sipping on a cold drink while watching the others come in and being told the albergue was full.
My friend later told me how much he enjoyed this hill and watching me overtake all men while they were looking like this:.
Despite all the comments to the contrary there are definitely elements of competition here - for susanna and bea to deny that would seem disingenuous. However this doesn't mean that is a bad thing - we all have to motivate ourselves somehow - but let's be honest at least!
All being well I will walk into Santiago on Tuesday for a 41 day SJPDP camino - and after a few days to rest a sore hip and achilles I will go to Finisterre.
I am finding that I have slowed down between Leon and Sarria to prolong the experience but since Sarria have not enjoyed the Way too much so am looking forward to finishing but not enough to do 30k days to finish sooner
All the best!
The logic of this defeats me. If he did the 800km in 16 days and none of these were short of 50km, what happened to all the extra kmSpeaking of walking fast and long, in 2002 I met an Italian who did it in 16 days.
Never had a day short of 50 Km.
I guess he was on a mission.
Can you explain what you mean. Are you saying that I have an element of competition in my Camino and that's the reason for doing it "fast"? Is that what you mean and also say "come on be honest about it". Then I get really mad. As you have no idea on how I felt and reasoned during my walking. So tired of people judging what is my normal speed and distance and see it as competing.Despite all the comments to the contrary there are definitely elements of competition here - for susanna and bea to deny that would seem disingenuous. However this doesn't mean that is a bad thing - we all have to motivate ourselves somehow - but let's be honest at least!
The logic of this defeats me. If he did the 800km in 16 days and none of these were short of 50km, what happened to all the extra km
Thanks i read it along with how satisfying it was to beat the others to the albergue and getting the last 2 beds and how satisfying it wasHi christer1!
It seems like you haven't understand anything of what we are trying to say here.
Let me see if I can help you.
Try to read this.... :
(Am quoting myself)
"Myself I think I just walk, in a way that feels natural and comfortable for me"
...a couple of times and see if it helps.
Hi BeaCan you explain what you mean. Are you saying that I have an element of competition in my Camino and that's the reason for doing it "fast"? Is that what you mean and also say "come on be honest about it". Then I get really mad. As you have no idea on how I felt and reasoned during my walking. So tired of people judging what is my normal speed and distance and see it as competing.
I decided one thing when I started my Camino and that was to never let someone else decide my speed. That mean that I never accelerated just to pass someone (not even for a bed I always calculated with the risk of having to sleep outside or keep walking) or to avoid being passed (except for once a singing group of teenagers after Sarria were so annoying that I had to speed up to avoid them), I never slowed down just because someone asked me to. I slowed down to talk to people and walked in my own pace after a while when the slow walk started to be uncomfortable meaning I had to say goodbye. I never forced my self to being at a point further down the road then my body could handle (I met some people who did that to keep up with others, stumbling next to someone else). I did stop earlier then i planned sometimes to be with friends
But you will probably not believe me any way for you I had my mind set on winning something. But the only thing I won was more time to spend on other caminos in the same time I thought I would do CM.
Thanks i read it along with how satisfying it was to beat the others to the albergue and getting the last 2 beds and how satisfying it was
As I said there is nothing wrong with this at all - it is a very honest statement!
All the best with your mantra and apologies for my lack of understanding
Thanks for posting your stages, Beatrice.
Maybe I'm over-reacting here, but like Beatrice, I have been criticized for walking too fast. I do not walk Beatrice's distances or at her speed but let me tell you that it is mighty annoying to be totally wrapped up in the joys of an invigorating brisk walk in which you feel like one with the universe and your body is giving its all and you are reveling in the mystery of being totally alive, only to be rudely interrupted and chided by some pilgrims you pass who tell you this is not a race.
This post reminds me of the time I stopped and sat down on the side of the road on the meseta and macro photographed a flower for 30 minutes until I got it right in the right light. That was a nice moment of slowing down and being in the right place at the right timeThat was said more beautifully then I ever could have said it! I TOTALLY agree with this. I remember a similiar thread a few months ago and will never forget how one pilgrim chimed in and said, "Well...did you go into churches and did you stop to smell the flowers?" (really just having to pee on this persons experience) ... I too liked to walk long days once I got use to it...I smelled as many flowers as anyone did and I walked into the churches I wanted to walk into...At the begining of my Camino I couldn't wait to get into a place early and sit back and chat and have a nice cold drink...BUT once I got wind under my wings I enjoyed longer days. I appreciate threads like this as many people tell me they can't leave the States for 30 days...and this shows that some folks MIGHT beable to pull it off.
One must be in a pretty decent shape to consider this...BUT there are folks in pretty decent shape in this World.
Anyway Peregrina2000 loved your response!
Actually, the mathematics of your original statement is 16x(>=50) = (>=800). There is the clear prospect that given the nature of the CF, where the exact distance is never achieved, that the probability of the result being exactly 800 is about zero. If there had been a day short of 50km, I wouldn't have cared either, but the original statement would have been a lie, or just hyperbole. Who knows. But if he was prepared to be untruthful over his distances, what confidence did you have about the rest of the claim?Logic for logic: 16 X 50 = 800 (not one short of 50).
He may have detoured here and there for all we know and who says the Camino is exactly 800 km? Furthermore, what if he had a day or two short of 50? I wasn't about to burst his balloon with argumentative mathematics. The point here is 16 days
And on top of this debate a guy want´s his dog to have a compostela and one guy had a question about if it was possible to play golf along the way,
Time changes
My backpack weighted 6896 at home before water and food. And yes I enjoyed my 33 days on 3 routes. I loved it even with shin splits, inflammation in an abdominal muscle, a bad stomach, anemia and heart burnwell done ! It took my wife and I 29 days - and I was injured with a twisted ankle. Very good pace and I now think if you keep your pack weight as low as possible (below 7 kgs) it is very doable in 23 days. I think the most important thing is did you enjoy walking at that pace? If the answer is yes .......... which I assume it is ....... good for you!
Mark R
As I wrote, I'll post the link when I have fixed all pics. The blog will be in Swedish so you will have to use a translator.I will follow the blog Beatrice if I can find it ...........
Have no idea next will be a short one. A week or so. Will have a family vacation in Italy next year. But a week in the autumn will probably be a good time for a short walk. I don't know when my husband and kids will let me go away for several weeks again. This time it was there birthday present to me when I turned 40.hello beatrice,
what next? lagos to santiago?
This is not a plan. This is what I did. And it was not hard.
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