- Time of past OR future Camino
- 2012, 2013, 2014.
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That is exactly the problem, its unfinished business, like getting back on the horse that threw you.That's an interesting dilemma @wayfarer. it sounds as though the Napoleon will always be unfinished business for you if you don't walk that way.
Personally, I hate unfinished business - but that's just me.
Yes IMOI would say "move on". It is just a mountain pass and not even a high one.Roncesvalles is a great starting point, in my view.
What's the story about the Tour Madeloc? We were beaten by the Monte de Monjardín (890m !). We did not reach the castle that towers over Villamayor de Monjardín - serious unfinished business, as we gave up with only about 10% of the way to go, perhaps 30 minutes? I'm still planning to go there one day to see it up close ... View attachment 22302
Does it count as a personal Everest?
That is exactly the problem, its unfinished business, like getting back on the horse that threw you.
So, Pat, it is up to you but if you are going to try the route Napoleon again, please, if only for our sakes, have a safety net or safety harness. If it were me I'd go with a companion, someone who is a very, very slow walker, get my pack carried, wear a Fitbit or similar device with a heart monitor, have my mobile phone fully charged and pre-programmed with taxi and emergency services numbers, start very early and aim only for Orisson the first day, and take a deliberate break (pack off, sit down) every half hour including at Huntto. Prepare for two days; it is still a long climb the following day, from Orisson to the top.
Sounds like you need to get this out of your system.......Thanks neighbour, I think its more of a head/mind issue rather than a fitness issue at this stage.
Hey. You had almost cracked it. Why not start early take a taxi up a far as you can and just enjoy it at a slower pace. You've nothing to prove but everything to enjoyWhen we walked the Camino in 2012 we were strongly advised not to take the Napoleon Route so we took the lower Valcarlos route. This was a beautiful route but I felt I had missed out on something. In 2014 when I returned to walk the CF again I was determined to walk the Napoleon, weather conditions were good, all systems were go and I headed off on a warm April morning but had to turn back just short of Orrison due to chest pain.
I plan to walk the CF again but I am torn about the Napoleon, I hate to be beaten but the sensible thing to do would be to start at Roncevalles or Pamplona.
The Napoleon has become my Everest, it has beaten me once, should I keep trying or just forget it and move on.
I have a similar relationship with a peak called Tour Madeloc at the other end of the Pyrenees but that’s another story.
Did any of you have an Everest moment on the way to Santiago.
Saturday 22 October 2011 (UK Independent World News)
A middle-aged man from New Zealand painfully hauled himself up the last few feet to the summit of Mount Everest this week.
Nothing so unusual in that - after all, climbing Everest has become so popular that its slopes are often crowded, and more than 100 people have scaled the mountain already this year - but Mark Inglis is different: he has no legs.
Inglis, who lost both his legs to frostbite more than 20 years ago, is the first double amputee to reach the top of Everest. On Monday night he telephoned his wife, Anne, at their New Zealand home from the 29,035 ft mountain to let her know he had made it safely.
I use walking poles, I find them great. At this stage I wouldn't know what to do with my hands when walking without them.BTW, he used Pacerpoles;-) Maybe they could help your Everest, OP??
My Everest was on my 2013 walk when I was taken to hospital a day after I left Sarria (8 days in intensive care) Each day I would look at the cathedral from the hospital, but I made it to the mass before flying home. Went back in 2014 and walked the CF again no problems. Back in 2016 to walk the Camino de Levante.When we walked the Camino in 2012 we were strongly advised not to take the Napoleon Route so we took the lower Valcarlos route. This was a beautiful route but I felt I had missed out on something. In 2014 when I returned to walk the CF again I was determined to walk the Napoleon, weather conditions were good, all systems were go and I headed off on a warm April morning but had to turn back just short of Orrison due to chest pain.
I plan to walk the CF again but I am torn about the Napoleon, I hate to be beaten but the sensible thing to do would be to start at Roncevalles or Pamplona.
The Napoleon has become my Everest, it has beaten me once, should I keep trying or just forget it and move on.
I have a similar relationship with a peak called Tour Madeloc at the other end of the Pyrenees but that’s another story.
Did any of you have an Everest moment on the way to Santiago.
@wayfarer, I do so hope you get to walk the Napoleon Route some day. In 2013, like you, I was all set to go that route when a snowstorm thwarted my plans. I keep hoping to get back there but life gets in the way and now it looks like family responsibilities might be looming up ahead. Who knows how long it might be 'til my next Camino, and if my current (knock on wood) good health will hold out. I keep thinking of a dear friend, severely physically handicapped and now sadly deceased, who was so extremely happy to see me head off on my Camino, who prayed so much for me while I was away, and who was so delighted to see me upon my return and to hear all about my Camino. I am so grateful for what I was able to walk, from SJPP to Santiago -When we walked the Camino in 2012 we were strongly advised not to take the Napoleon Route so we took the lower Valcarlos route. This was a beautiful route but I felt I had missed out on something. In 2014 when I returned to walk the CF again I was determined to walk the Napoleon, weather conditions were good, all systems were go and I headed off on a warm April morning but had to turn back just short of Orrison due to chest pain.
I plan to walk the CF again but I am torn about the Napoleon, I hate to be beaten but the sensible thing to do would be to start at Roncevalles or Pamplona.
The Napoleon has become my Everest, it has beaten me once, should I keep trying or just forget it and move on.
I have a similar relationship with a peak called Tour Madeloc at the other end of the Pyrenees but that’s another story.
Did any of you have an Everest moment on the way to Santiago.
Thanks neighbour, I think its more of a head/mind issue rather than a fitness issue at this stage.
Thanks neighbour, I think its more of a head/mind issue rather than a fitness issue at this stage.
Hi Pat, so pleased you are ready to pilgrimage again. I completely agree with Kanga's post. Even if it is only for the first two days (IF you decide to do it) I would stress you do get your pack moved on! We are not getting any younger and our tickers deserve our respect, they keep us going to let us enjoy our walking paradise. Buen Camino friend put a stone on for me this time Pat, I won't be able to make it in 2016.Yes Pat, I've had a number of Everests. The older I get the less likely I am to conquer them and the less important they seem. I never did get to argue a case in the Australian High Court.
So, Pat, it is up to you but if you are going to try the route Napoleon again, please, if only for our sakes, have a safety net or safety harness. If it were me I'd go with a companion, someone who is a very, very slow walker, get my pack carried, wear a Fitbit or similar device with a heart monitor, have my mobile phone fully charged and pre-programmed with taxi and emergency services numbers, start very early and aim only for Orisson the first day, and take a deliberate break (pack off, sit down) every half hour including at Huntto. Prepare for two days; it is still a long climb the following day, from Orisson to the top.
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