PilgrimOliver
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- Camino Aragones (2022)
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To provide at least somewhat equal opportunities for people living in the villages that the camino passes through. It is not my intention to make it so popular that it gets overcrowded like for example Camino Francés can get. But for some local communities, camino is the source of income and this decreasing number of pilgrims on Camino Aragonés is hurting their economy and businesses.It's a quiet walk, why increase foot traffic?
Thank you very much! I will definitely look for it.A great deal of what I will have to say later will deal with San Juan de la Peña just off the camino a few hours on the Camino Catalan. It is a wonder. It's difficult to find time right now to write but I wanted to make sure you saw it both for yourself and the development of the camino. In Jaca ask at the tourist bureau or hospitalero how to get there.
Thank you for your input. I will make sure to check out the new alberguePlan to stay at the new albergue at Canfranc Pueblo - it’s a great example to what is going right on the CA and a step toward getting folks into the path. Lack of accommodations is one big downside to this route, especially after Sanguesa.
I will be completing the Camino Aragones around the 24th of July. Will that be too late to take your survey?Dear Pilgrim,
My name is Oliver and I am 23 year old Marketing Management student in the Netherlands. I am currently working on my bachelor thesis and the goal of my project is to promote Camino Aragonés and increase the number of pilgrims that choose this camino.
As you might have heard, Camino Aragonés has been going through the decline in the number of pilgrims over the recent years which is hurting the development and the economy of local communities and leads to depopulation of various villages along the camino. More pilgrims on Camino Aragonés would mean more opportunities for locals.
For anyone who completed Camino Aragonés, I would like to ask you if you could fill out this survey: https://forms.gle/FCBwMatUxWcigEce7
Your answers will help me create a promotional plan for this camino.
I will be actually starting this camino myself tomorrow (29.04.) from Somport to experience the beauties that it has to offer and to look for any potential reasons of why this camino is in such a decline.
I would appreciate any ideas or tips for travelling through this camino as well as any ideas for my project in general.
Thank you for your time and I wish you Buen Camino!
Filled in as per request.Dear Pilgrim,
My name is Oliver and I am 23 year old Marketing Management student in the Netherlands. I am currently working on my bachelor thesis and the goal of my project is to promote Camino Aragonés and increase the number of pilgrims that choose this camino.
As you might have heard, Camino Aragonés has been going through the decline in the number of pilgrims over the recent years which is hurting the development and the economy of local communities and leads to depopulation of various villages along the camino. More pilgrims on Camino Aragonés would mean more opportunities for locals.
For anyone who completed Camino Aragonés, I would like to ask you if you could fill out this survey: https://forms.gle/FCBwMatUxWcigEce7
Your answers will help me create a promotional plan for this camino.
I will be actually starting this camino myself tomorrow (29.04.) from Somport to experience the beauties that it has to offer and to look for any potential reasons of why this camino is in such a decline.
I would appreciate any ideas or tips for travelling through this camino as well as any ideas for my project in general.
Thank you for your time and I wish you Buen Camino!
It definitely won't be late. Your opinion at any point in time will be useful. Thank you!I will be completing the Camino Aragones around the 24th of July. Will that be too late to take your survey?
Thank you for your answers as well as the input!Filled in as per request.
I walked it in 2016 after finishing up the Camí Catalán. Beautiful but could use more albergues.
Where are you studying (I'm also from The Netherlands)?
Good luck and Buen Camino!
Oliver,Dear Pilgrim,
My name is Oliver and I am 23 year old Marketing Management student in the Netherlands. I am currently working on my bachelor thesis and the goal of my project is to promote Camino Aragonés and increase the number of pilgrims that choose this camino.
As you might have heard, Camino Aragonés has been going through the decline in the number of pilgrims over the recent years which is hurting the development and the economy of local communities and leads to depopulation of various villages along the camino. More pilgrims on Camino Aragonés would mean more opportunities for locals.
For anyone who completed Camino Aragonés, I would like to ask you if you could fill out this survey: https://forms.gle/FCBwMatUxWcigEce7
Your answers will help me create a promotional plan for this camino.
I will be actually starting this camino myself tomorrow (29.04.) from Somport to experience the beauties that it has to offer and to look for any potential reasons of why this camino is in such a decline.
I would appreciate any ideas or tips for travelling through this camino as well as any ideas for my project in general.
Thank you for your time and I wish you Buen Camino!
Hi, Graham, Ihave been dreaming about that road starting in Olorons-st-Marie. However, do you know if there are luggage transfer services from there to Somport? Thanks, José.Oliver,
Brilliant idea. I will complete the form but may I suggest you keep a watch on this forum for people that are asking questions about starting in SJPdP and suggest to them the alternative of starting in Olorons-St-Marie, over to Jaxa and then down the A valley. Fabulous.
Well done
Grahammac
Thank you for your answers Grahammac. Thats actually a very good ideaOliver,
Brilliant idea. I will complete the form but may I suggest you keep a watch on this forum for people that are asking questions about starting in SJPdP and suggest to them the alternative of starting in Olorons-St-Marie, over to Jaxa and then down the A valley. Fabulous.
Well done
Grahammac
Good idea. Thanks, Vacajoe!Correos recently announced luggage services on the Camino Aragon - I’d check with them for that last portion of The Camino Arles from Oloron to Somport
Thank you very much! I will check out your blog. Also enjoying every moment of The AragonesHi Oliver, I completed your survey about walking the Aragones -- walked it with my dad in 2015 (also listed my blog address about our walk) --
The Aragones is a special trail for sure -- Buen Camino & have a wonderful journey!
Oh I didn't think it was gonna be this easyI hadn't even considered this route until I saw this post. Now it's moved to the top of my "to do" list! So your message worked for marketing for me
Let the planning begin...
Thank you very much. Those are great ideas!! I will make sure to use them in my plan because I am not sure if I'm capable of providing that from the technical point of view.This calls for a multilingual website but with a paper introduction. Have a poster heavy on pictures and maps with a title like "The Other Camino" or, if correct, "The Original Camino". Otherwise with only a small amount of text so it can also be translated into multiple languages. Of course the URL of the homepage of the website should be obvious. I would put flag icons for each language available on the site near the URL so people would know that they would have an easy time at the site. The homepage would then have the same icons to direct the viewer to the appropriate sub-site.
Next is getting the posters visible. Albergues between SJPdP and Pamplona would be obvious places to start. They shouldn't mind because pilgrims are already spending money in their town. The Navarra tourist office in Pamplona may not mind either as the Aragonese also passes through Navarra.
This would possibly attract pilgrims already in those towns but the homepage or sub-site homepages would have to make it easy for the visitors to see transportation options to the Aragonese start points in Spain or France from the usual Camino Francés start points.
Oh that is weird. It only requires me to sign in if I want to save the progressI attempted to complete your survey but it requires signing in with google and that’s not going to happen.
I loved the Aragon and would happily walk it again. I thought it had just enough infrastructure and the scenery was stunning. I was quite happy to not see many other people for those days.
Could you please provide a link to the baggage transfer.Good idea. Thanks, Vacajoe!
I saw it advertised on a Camino Aragon or Canfranc Facebook group recently, but didn’t get contact info since it’s not a service I use.Could you please provide a link to the baggage transfer.
The Correos link is here for bag transfer in post #33.The French Way |Camino de Santiago from Saint Jean Pied de Port
Enjoy the French Way, here you have information about this route: sections, hostels, photos and tips from our postmen and women for the Camino.www.elcaminoconcorreos.com
And in gites in France! Once people are in Pamplona the die is already cast.Albergues between SJPdP and Pamplona would be obvious places to start
Certainement!And in gites in France! Once people are in Pamplona the die is already cast.
Hi Rick, I am actually in albergue in Sanguesa right now but there aren't really hospitaleras. They just give you the key and that is it. Also I can't find any information about that in available documents which are presented here but I will look for some information on internet.I would like to write more on how San Juan de la Peña could help promote the Aragonese but I will save that for later. By the way, when you respond to this thread each day would you please say where you are. And have you seen the monasteries yet?
I'm going to notify you that the Aragonese has a variant from Sangüesa that follows an old railroad bed. In Spain at least a number of these are called Via Verdes. In the US we call them rail trails. I've read on the forum that the Via Verde variant here is spectacular.
Two years ago there was information about this in several languages at the municipal albergue in Sangüesa. The hospitalera also told of a nearby place to get an early morning bus that would take you part way and save you some of the extra walking that the variant would add. I suggest,that for your project, you take this variant. Maybe you could take both routes.
I hope some other members will add extra information about this or find some forum links for you. I'm currently writing with no internet access and will copy and paste this text to post once I do have access. I think that the Via Verde variant presented in promotional material would increase the number of walkers on the Aragonese.
Must be because of Covid. In 2019 the hospitalera dropped in for a visit; she wasn't resident.Hi Rick, I am actually in albergue in Sanguesa right now but there aren't really hospitaleras. They just give you the key and that is it.
That’s the path through the Lumbier gorge into the village of Lumbier - a lovely path with an awesome train tunnel! Plus there is a side-path to a collapsed Roman bridge that is called the Bridge of Angels or Bridge of the Devil depending on your inclination….the Aragonese has a variant from Sangüesa that follows an old railroad bed
Must be because of Covid. In 2019 the hospitalera dropped in for a visit; she wasn't resident.
We were there in 2019, the door was unlocked and the hospitalera came by at 6pm to collect money and stamped your credential. No one was located onsite.Must be because of Covid. In 2019 the hospitalera dropped in for a visit; she wasn't resident.
I broke that stage up by staying in Lumbier and then walking the next day to MonrealThank you for your recommendation! Unfortunately I am not that of an experienced walker and the route to Lumbier is 5 km longer which would make 32 km stage which would be too much for me at this time.
Luckily after finishing the camino, I am staying in Pamplona until 18th May so I will try to revisit it since there is a regular bus from Pamplona to Sanguesa.
Same!I broke that stage up by staying in Lumbier and then walking the next day to Monreal
I'll be doing the same route at about the same time this year (2023). How was the weather when you went?Hi all, all going well, will start from Oloron St. Marie on May 18th - on to Sarrance, Urdos, Somport Pass and on to the Aragones. So excited and hoping for good weather. Anyone else walking at this time?
Me too!Same!
Very pleasant, no rain. The walk over the Somport was glorious and when you entered Spain at the top, path was extremely well marked. Took a little getting used to the French Camino markings from Oloron St. Marie, but all good.I'll be doing the same route at about the same time this year (2023). How was the weather when you went?
That's wonderful to hear Linda!Very pleasant, no rain. The walk over the Somport was glorious and when you entered Spain at the top, path was extremely well marked. Took a little getting used to the French Camino markings from Oloron St. Marie, but all good.
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