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- Camino Portugues September-October 2023
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I did the Portugues from Porto in the first half of October 2018. I was staying in albergues, so I'm not sure how applicable this is to someone staying in private rooms. I didn't have to book ahead except for Casa da Fernanda.I must have forgotten how much my feet ached when I walked the Hadrian's Wall trail in 2021 as I'm getting itchy feet for a Camino trip. (Family members saying "What's next, Santiago?" after I finished Hadrians Wall must have planted the idea in my head).
So why a Camino when I’m not religious? I’ve never been to Portugal, so a long walk would be a good way to discover somewhere new. I’m drawn by the idea of walking the same route trodden by pilgrims for hundreds of years. I love the idea of making progress from A to B across a country (or 2 in this case) to a grand destination, collecting the little passport/credencial stamps along the way.
I love solo travel (for the freedom & wonderful encounters with other people you get when voyaging alone). Having initially dismissed as "hippie nonsense" the idea referred to by many adventure travel writers that "the road will provide" I've had enough timely morale boosting moments on solo European motorcycle tours, to conclude that serendipity smiles on the well prepared solo traveller. I have a feeling that the Camino may well deliver.
As a control freak who normally pre-books every aspect of a trip, part of me wonders whether the Camino might provide the perfect opportunity to try and let go, go with the flow, and not pre-book everything. The inner romantic thinks carrying my own kit and seeing where I get to each day would be the truest way to do the Camino.
The inner practical pessimist remembers how glad I was of baggage transport services on my Hadrians Wall hike, how I wouldn’t want to find myself without somewhere to stay and having to walk another 10km to the next town in the hope of finding a bed for the night. My little legs are good for 20km a day but 25km days were not fun. As a snorer-intolerant snorer myself, I would want to stay in a single room in a hotel or guesthouse, not a dormitory in an albergue. I'd need to book a return flight from Spain so the trip couldn't be truly open ended which would limit how many short days/days off I could afford to take
I haven’t got a definite date for a Camino trip but am hoping I might have an opportunity in September or October this year, depending on work, which doesn’t give me long to prepare.
If September/October are a go, how practical would it be to wing it (and not book every night of a trek)? Is this busy season on the Camino Portugues so I’d need to pre-book every night to be sure of having a bed (especially a non-dormitory bed) for every night?
Hi! I walked Coastal ,Senda Littoral and Espiritual Variant from Porto to Santiago Sept 17th to Oct 13th 2021!If September/October are a go, how practical would it be to wing it (and not book every night of a trek)? Is this busy season on the Camino Portugues so I’d need to pre-book every night to be sure of having a bed (especially a non-dormitory bed) for every night?
Hi there! Your post could have been written by me! I am in exactly the same situation, feeling a bit anxious but am going for it. My flight dates need to be booked. Apart from that I am hoping to be able to wing it all, day by day. Walking as much as I can enjoy and hope to find a bed each night, in a dorm is fine for me. I may even jump on a bus or train for some stretches as I'm not sure I want to do more than 15kms per day. I've never done the Camino nor been to Spain or Portugal before. See you along The Way!I must have forgotten how much my feet ached when I walked the Hadrian's Wall trail in 2021 as I'm getting itchy feet for a Camino trip. (Family members saying "What's next, Santiago?" after I finished Hadrians Wall must have planted the idea in my head).
So why a Camino when I’m not religious? I’ve never been to Portugal, so a long walk would be a good way to discover somewhere new. I’m drawn by the idea of walking the same route trodden by pilgrims for hundreds of years. I love the idea of making progress from A to B across a country (or 2 in this case) to a grand destination, collecting the little passport/credencial stamps along the way.
I love solo travel (for the freedom & wonderful encounters with other people you get when voyaging alone). Having initially dismissed as "hippie nonsense" the idea referred to by many adventure travel writers that "the road will provide" I've had enough timely morale boosting moments on solo European motorcycle tours, to conclude that serendipity smiles on the well prepared solo traveller. I have a feeling that the Camino may well deliver.
As a control freak who normally pre-books every aspect of a trip, part of me wonders whether the Camino might provide the perfect opportunity to try and let go, go with the flow, and not pre-book everything. The inner romantic thinks carrying my own kit and seeing where I get to each day would be the truest way to do the Camino.
The inner practical pessimist remembers how glad I was of baggage transport services on my Hadrians Wall hike, how I wouldn’t want to find myself without somewhere to stay and having to walk another 10km to the next town in the hope of finding a bed for the night. My little legs are good for 20km a day but 25km days were not fun. As a snorer-intolerant snorer myself, I would want to stay in a single room in a hotel or guesthouse, not a dormitory in an albergue. I'd need to book a return flight from Spain so the trip couldn't be truly open ended which would limit how many short days/days off I could afford to take
I haven’t got a definite date for a Camino trip but am hoping I might have an opportunity in September or October this year, depending on work, which doesn’t give me long to prepare.
If September/October are a go, how practical would it be to wing it (and not book every night of a trek)? Is this busy season on the Camino Portugues so I’d need to pre-book every night to be sure of having a bed (especially a non-dormitory bed) for every night?
Hi Woody - we are doing the Vigo route this Sept. I notice that a couple of the hotels I booked have a swimming pool. Do you think it's worth taking swimsuits based on your experience with the weather?Hi! I walked Coastal ,Senda Littoral and Espiritual Variant from Porto to Santiago Sept 17th to Oct 13th 2021!
I had private rooms and bathroom every night booked in advance,but there were still rooms available wherever i stayed except one.
The weather was great 21-27 C with one heavy rain day;but that was two years ago no guarantees this year.
The numbers of Pilgrims really increased for the last 100km from Vigo.
There were also coach loads of tourists around when i walked from Pontevedra and again in Combarro!
Buen Camino
Have a great walk
Woody
Hi BarbC!Hi Woody - we are doing the Vigo route this Sept. I notice that a couple of the hotels I booked have a swimming pool. Do you think it's worth taking swimsuits based on your experience with the weather?
No - not ambiguous at all - I figured the pools won't be heated - and I like mine at 83 minimum - but I will be prepared just in case we feel like some refreshing swims. ThanksHi BarbC!
Depends if it's a heated pool and what you consider comfortable i would imagine.
I stayed at only one place in Portugal on the way up to Galicia with a pool ; the pool was unheated and for me shout out cold.(cooler nights and morning chill didn't give it time to heat up)
But then that's no different to going in the sea.
I would imagine a bikini is no more heavier than a extra set of undies! (or take undies that look like they could be a costume would save the weight;dual purpose is the way to go)
Being male i wore my boxers; plus i was the only guest using the villa pool so no one noticed.
It's not like lugging a 1kg laptop just in case you want to use it!
I hope this helps although i suppose the answer is a tad ambiguous as not a definitive response
Have a great walk
Buen Camino
Woody
HiThank you all for your helpful replies.
In response to @Kiwi-family, if the Portuguese Coastal/Littoral route from Porto to Santiago is 280km then at 20km a day, I'd need a fortnight, only 10 km a day I'd need 4 weeks, and at 15 km a day, that would be around 3 weeks.
Realistically, I'm unlikely to be able to spare more than 3 weeks if the trip is this year.
That should give me a few days spare if I manage 20 km a day, but allow for shorter days if needed (either due to aching feet or lack of accommodation availability at a proposed destination so having to stop early to be sure of a bed for the night).
If I find I can't take as much as 3 weeks off maybe the answer is to just do the last 100km (from Tui to Santiago) and either allow 2 weeks (no pre-booking) or about 10 days (and pre-book to be sure of completing the trip).
I'm now trying to put together a spreadsheet of distances so that rather than focussing on official/popular daily stages, I create my own 20km max stages to see what that would mean in terms of accommodation options. If it turns out that many of my stage ends have very limited options, I'd then pre-book for those nights, while winging it on other days.
I'd then have to decide whether to bring a sheet sleeping bag, in case I wind up in snorer-ville in an albergue one night.
Apart from the municipal albergues (which I understand don't do pre-booking or work with luggage transfer services) could I have luggage transported from pretty much any accommodation on the Camino or would I need to stick to the Central not Coastal or Littoral routes to be sure of that being an option if on any day I decide I've had enough lugging a heavy backpack?
Hi BarbC!Hi
we are doing our first walk in Sept. and in kinda the same boat - I like to plan and we want hotels as our accommodations and don't want to carry everything - and have limited time. So we are flying to Porto for a few days vacation - then taking the train to Vigo to start the last 100KM to Santiago - so the towns will be in Galicia, Spain. Doing 6 days with 1 rest day on the 3rd day - so 5 walking days. Our shortest day is 15K and the last day is 25K. I have arranged bag transport for each day. We are in our late 60's and this is our first attempt - I feel that it's do-able unless something unforeseen occurs but taking care of some of the details makes us more comfortable. Let me know if you want any details on our route etc. Cheers!
Hi again - here is our routeHi @BarbC, I had started to think about doing exactly what you're planning - fly to Porto for a couple of days to experience the city (maybe even see if I can persuade my husband to join me for that bit) then take a bus or train north and hike the last 100km. If you could send me your route details that would be fantastic.
One thing starting to put me off winging it & not pre-booking is that I get the impression those winging it tend to leave before dawn to arrive lunchtime when municipal albergues open to bag a bed for the night & then spend the afternoon sitting around waiting for their just washed one spare pair of socks & T-shirt to dry.
When I'm on tour, I'd rather hit the road around 08.30, have a more leisurely pace and arrive at my accommodation at e.g. 4.30 pm. This suggests I may be better pre booking if otherwise the early birds would have bagged all the beds.
My other thought is that if luggage transport is around 7-8 Euros a day, for a 10-15 day trek that would still be cheaper for me than buying a suitable 30-35 litre lightweight hiking backpack. I could send ahead my trusty Tatonka flight bag & just carry the daypack I used on Hadrian's Wall.
Awesome. I’ll be heading out at the same time. What sort of temperatures do you think we will be in for?Yay! My September-October Portuguese Camino plan looks like it's going to happen, and with enough time to do Porto to Santiago.
Presumably from a weather perspective I'm better off heading out there as early as I can (circa 27-28 September to start) rather than leaving it later (e.g. 9-10 October) to start? I don't want searing heat, but I'd rather not have 2 1/2 solid weeks of lashing rain and howling gales.
Current thinking is to take the Littoral to Vila do Conde, and then head to the Central, using the river route on stingynomads.com to cut across (as I understand there aren't many markers as if the authorities are trying to discourage hikers from making the switch).
I will pre-book accommodation (to avoid the rise before dawn, and mad scramble to be at lodgings by 1-2pm when they open, even if the latter is more common on the Frances than the Portugues).
I will generally be looking at individual rooms not albergue accommodation, though having read about Casa Fernanda, would like to book there if there's space.
Does Casa Fernanda supply sheets, pillow cases & blankets? I was hoping to get away without bringing a sheet sleeping bag or sleeping bag proper.
How do I contact Casa Fernanda to book? Is there an e-mail address or just the phone number that's on Gronze.com? (If phone, I may need to call on my Brazilian colleague to phone and book as I don't speak Portuguese! If Fernanda speaks a bit of Spanish I could probably book in Spanish)
Does anyone have a contact e-mail or phone number for Casa Mattos at Sao Pedro de Rates?
Now heading out to an outdoor gear shop to try some trail shoes (if the consensus is that my hiking boots would be overkill on the Portugues).
hehehe seems wise to be taking the waterproofs. I'm aiming for a 6kg max loaded pack so Im gonna have to pack smart.@vanessaptwilson - very good question, I haven't a clue! I've never been to Portugal. I will go prepared for anything from scorching Indian summer weather to horizontal rain and howling gales. I'm hoping that it will be pleasantly warm (20 ish Celsius) and mostly sunny, but I can't believe that in 2 1/2 weeks in the far west of Europe in October, I won't be rained on once, so will be taking waterproofs.
You can check Gronze for albergue closing dates.some Alberques will close Oct 15th?
Hey, dear pilgrims.Yay! My September-October Portuguese Camino plan looks like it's going to happen, and with enough time to do Porto to Santiago.
Presumably from a weather perspective I'm better off heading out there as early as I can (circa 27-28 September to start) rather than leaving it later (e.g. 9-10 October) to start? I don't want searing heat, but I'd rather not have 2 1/2 solid weeks of lashing rain and howling gales.
Current thinking is to take the Littoral to Vila do Conde, and then head to the Central, using the river route on stingynomads.com to cut across (as I understand there aren't many markers as if the authorities are trying to discourage hikers from making the switch).
I will pre-book accommodation (to avoid the rise before dawn, and mad scramble to be at lodgings by 1-2pm when they open, even if the latter is more common on the Frances than the Portugues).
I will generally be looking at individual rooms not albergue accommodation, though having read about Casa Fernanda, would like to book there if there's space.
Does Casa Fernanda supply sheets, pillow cases & blankets? I was hoping to get away without bringing a sheet sleeping bag or sleeping bag proper.
How do I contact Casa Fernanda to book? Is there an e-mail address or just the phone number that's on Gronze.com? (If phone, I may need to call on my Brazilian colleague to phone and book as I don't speak Portuguese! If Fernanda speaks a bit of Spanish I could probably book in Spanish)
Does anyone have a contact e-mail or phone number for Casa Mattos at Sao Pedro de Rates?
Now heading out to an outdoor gear shop to try some trail shoes (if the consensus is that my hiking boots would be overkill on the Portugues).
Question- do you mean that we can take a bus if we want to the next stage in case you need it? I’m just afraid to be alone at night and still kms to walk to the next stage. Thanks for the recommendations and tipsHi there! Your post could have been written by me! I am in exactly the same situation, feeling a bit anxious but am going for it. My flight dates need to be booked. Apart from that I am hoping to be able to wing it all, day by day. Walking as much as I can enjoy and hope to find a bed each night, in a dorm is fine for me. I may even jump on a bus or train for some stretches as I'm not sure I want to do more than 15kms per day. I've never done the Camino nor been to Spain or Portugal before. See you along The Way!
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