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You have a few 30km days in there. If you prefer, there are ways to make these shorter.
To avoid the Frances, it really can be a shock after the Primitivo, you might want to cosider the Camino verde: https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...ng-from-primitivo-to-norte-yes-you-can.42599/
Finally, make sure your bring a duvet or sleeping bag, it can get cold up there at night in May.
Hi, Kaje,
Welcome to the forum. Most Primitivo pilgrims will be doing stages similar to the ones you propose, they sound very do-able.
Just a couple of comments. If you haven't seen it,this thread might help you sort out whether you will go via Hospitales or Pola (of course, the weather will be a huge determinant), both are quite nice: https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/hospitales-or-pola-de-allande.28334/
Ferreira to Melide may seem kind of short, and as Momonne says, getting to the Francés may be quite a shock to the system. What I did the last time I was on the Primitivo was to walk from Ferreira to the private albergue in Boente, it's only 6 beyond Melide. We called and reserved a bed from Ferreira the night before and then had a long pulpo break in Melide. From there to Boente was fine. Leaving Melide in mid afternoon, the camino was prettty empty. Leaving from Boente the next morning, we were ahead of the Melide rush and behind the Arzua rush, so we didn't really get smacked with the crowds until we got to Pedrouzo. Then the next day into Santiago was short and sweet. Another option to avoid the crowds would be to spend the last night in the very nice casa rural outside Lavacolla, (in Vilamaior actually), Casa de Amancio. It's an old home that is a popular bar-café stop,but at night it is empty and peaceful.
And I second Momonne's praise of the Naranco sites. They are a wonder, one of my favorite ancient sites in Spain. Which reminds me -- if you like these old places, consider a short detour to Santa María de Eulalia on the Lugo to Ferreira stage. Reserve a bed in Ferreira so you won't need to worry about it. There is a Roman painted crypt with peacocks, chickens, birds, floral decorations, it is very nice! The Ferreira albergues have a page with info on how to do the detour: https://www.alberguesdeferreira.com/2015/02/primitive-way-santa-eulalia-de-boveda/?lang=en. I have done it and highly recommend it. Just make sure it will be open on the day you go (check in the Lugo tourist office).
Buen camino, you will love the Primitivo, Laurie
In the end it depends as much on what you are comfortable with. Stages of less than 25 kms are not my preference as I tend to walk quite fast and wake up early! I would be at my destination before midday and prefer to arrive in late afternoon which gives me time to do daily tasks such as washing and go out in the evening. However, it also depends on the availability of accommodation.
Let´s see, removing the full rest day but having a couple of 15km days istaead, so adding one day.Thank you for the kind advice Momonne. Im not familiar with the Camino at all, and hence I tried my best to work out a schedule that could be done in 14 days. Could you perhaps suggest how to make some of the walking days shorter? Typically 25kms would be ideal, but I also have lots of shorter more relaxed walks to ease the burden of the longer days. Much appreciated.
You will control the speed of your walking, but don't count on NOT being an early riser if you stay in albergues. You probably will get up with the crowd, and you can expect it to be predawn!I am neither a fast walker, nor an early riser
Thank you Laurie for the kind response. Still uncertain which route to take (hospitales or pola), as they both sound very nice, albeit in different ways. Will cross that bridge when I finally get to it.
Based on your suggestion (please correct me if I am wrong):
Day 12 - Ferreira to Buente = 26.1kms
Day 13 - Buente to O Pedrouza = 29.2kms
Day 14 - O Pedrouza to Santiago = 22.1kms
Day 15 - Santiago (perhaps bus trip to Finnestre)
Day 16 - Santiago back to Madrid
(Therefore I will save 1 whole day of walking)
Unfortunately, I could not find any information on "lavacolla/Villamaior" using http://www.urcamino.com/planner
They already offer private accomodations, at least they did three years ago.FWIW I know that the bar in Escamplero, El Tendejon, is trying to open up their own private accommodation option. Nothing concrete with regards to dates, I'll followup in a months time.
The Primitivo is actually more more relaxed than that. I didn’t not experience plastic bag rustling at 5 am, nor walking in the dark with frontal lamps. Early risers would be those layzily gerring out of bed at 6:00, 6:30. Perhaps because people don’t want to walk 10-15 km without coffee, so they wait for the one local bar to open at 7:30.You will control the speed of your walking, but don't count on NOT being an early riser if you stay in albergues. You probably will get up with the crowd, and you can expect it to be predawn!
Most albergues will throw you out by 8-8:30 am, quite rudely at times. Buen camino.
You will control the speed of your walking, but don't count on NOT being an early riser if you stay in albergues. You probably will get up with the crowd, and you can expect it to be predawn!
Most albergues will throw you out by 8-8:30 am, quite rudely at times. Buen camino.
Yes, that is what I was suggesting, I hadn't focused on the fact that it makes your days longer and in fact cuts out one walking day!
Here is the website of the Casa de Amancio http://www.casadeamancio.com. I was there last summer for a café con leche in the morning and it was packed. But I don't think it's packed at night. The original family has sold the operation to two young guys who are much more business-like and efficient. But of course some of the charm got lost in the translation. This was an old family home that they built a ring of rooms around in a back courtyard. When I stayed there years ago, I was the only person spending the night there. I had a really nice long chat with the young guy who was running things and he told me all sorts of stories like how his grandma (or was it great grandma) had been born on a particular slab in the now cafeteria which had then been the cow barn. Had a wonderful home cooked meal, too. I don't know how the new owners run the casa rural part of this operation, but I know they won't have grandma stories to tell you! For me, it was nice to be out of the rush and also nice to have a VERY short walk into Santiago the next day.
Sorry to reminisce so much, but it is interesting to see how many family labors of love on the Camino became successful businesses and then the familly sold out. Buen camino, Laurie
The Primitivo is actually more more relaxed than that. I didn’t not experience plastic bag rustling at 5 am, nor walking in the dark with frontal lamps. Early risers would be those layzily gerring out of bed at 6:00, 6:30. Perhaps because people don’t want to walk 10-15 km without coffee, so they wait for the one local bar to open at 7:30.
Yes. Plans usually change quite early in a camino. I suggest you make a plan, but know that you can be flexible executing it.Out of curiosity, is there a possibility of just winging it, or is it always a better option to pre-plan? Thank you once more.
I don't think those two things are inconsistent. I freely admit to being an obsessive pre-planner, but for me it is a very enjoyable part of getting ready to walk rather than actually walking. I do research things a bitOut of curiosity, is there a possibility of just winging it, or is it always a better option to pre-plan? Thank you once more.
My daughter and I did the Primitivo September 2016. Hospitales was one of the best days. Don't miss it.Warm greetings to all. I am planning my tentative route & would appreciate your kind feedback and suggestions if this is feasible. Likely only to use a 32/35L Backpack on the trip.
I will be Arriving in Madrid on 21/5/2018 at 9.40am and take the 11.48am train to Oviedo. Overnight in Oviedo.
Walking starts on 22/5/2018 as follows :
Day 1 - Oviedo to Escamplero (via the Narinco Site) = 17.2kms
Day 2 - Escamplero to Cornellana = 23.8kms
Day 3 - Cornellana to Bodenaya = 17.6kms
Day 4 - Bodenaya to Campiello = 25.2kms
Day 5 - Campiello to Berducedo = 30.8kms (not sure if via pola or hospitales route)
Day 6 - Beducedo to Grandas De Selime = 20.2kms
Day 7 - Grandas De Selime to Padron = 29.2kms
Day 8 - Padron to O Cadavo = 23.8kms
Day 9 - O Cadavo to Lugo - 31kms
Day 10 - Rest Day & Sightseeing in Lugo
Day 11 - Lugo to Ferreira = 29.8kms
Day 12 - Ferreira to Melide = 20kms
Day 13 - Melide to Arzua = 15.1kms
Day 14 - Arzua to Santa Irene = 17.8kms
Day 15 - Santa Irene to Santiago = 24.5kms
Day 16 - Santiago (perhaps bus trip to Finnestre)
Day 17 - Santiago back to Madrid
All advice is most welcome. Thank you.
Wing it as long as every time you get ready to leave a town you figure out where the next available may be: it may be far, far away. And as long as you are ok with not walking the last 100km into Santiago, having to bus something if you lag behind your original schedule.Out of curiosity, is there a possibility of just winging it, or is it always a better option to pre-plan? Thank you once more.
We stayed at Castro after Grandas. If planning this it is best to phone and check that they are not booked by a youth group.
We made rough plans and then when wanting to book just phoned one day ahead which worked well for us. We walked most days under 20kms. If you check out Gronze you can see the stages they use and then make your own; also they give both bookable and non-bookable albergues and other accommodation.
Buen Camino
Laurie,Tia Valeria years ago described the pre-historic hill for and museum and I thought it sounded so interesting. They seem to have put a lot of money and energy into developing this site for visitors -- look at their website. http://castrochaosamartin.esy.es/?lang=en.
In addition to the youth hostel (albergue juvenil) there is also a hotel there that people have enjoyed. If I get back to the Primitivo again, this will be a stop for me! Buen camino, Laurie
Laurie,
The ruins are of a Roman village, not pre-historic. You can even see signs of indoor « plumbing ». Really worth going at the time of the guided tour, one hour before closing normally. Lots to discover and learn.
The albergue is lovely, in an old stone house with a very large backyard, perfect for having a nap in good weather. The girl running it when I was there prepared an excellent meal for us, with veggetable soup and non fried, non breaded fish! The Casa rural had apparently been closed for a while and there were no indications on when it would open again. A beautiful place I could be tempted to spend a weekend at.
The website mentions the Bronze age and 800bc. Didn’t prehistory end a long thousands of years before that?I think we're both right. According to the website, this place has Bronze Age, Iron Age, Roman, and even some medieval remnants.
http://castrochaosamartin.esy.es/el-castro/?lang=en
I would love to go there, not sure how I can squeeze another Primitivo into my growing list of caminos and my decreasing years of walking ability!
for day 4 it might be worth considering staying in Borres instead of Campiello, because you skip the 3km road walk from Campiello. of course, the albergue in Borres cannot be reserved, but last year Casa Ricardo in Campiello offered to come and pick up pilgrims if the Borres albergue would fill up - so you have an option. that also reduces the next day's walk and you start with the climb straight away.
I've seen on gronze.com that albergue in O Padrón is closed. there is albergue O Pineral about 3-4km onwards.
I second laurie's suggestion for a visit to Santalla de Boveda. here is how I did it: https://es.wikiloc.com/rutas-senderismo/camino2016-079-lugo-a-pena-de-galina-18106774. even when I passed the public albergue in Retorta at about 14h, it wasn't full. the last kms to Ferreira seemed quite long and lots of ups and downs.
One of my "camino regrets" is that I have walked this route three times and have never stayed at Grandas. Tia Valeria years ago described the pre-historic hill for and museum and I thought it sounded so interesting. They seem to have put a lot of money and energy into developing this site for visitors -- look at their website. http://castrochaosamartin.esy.es/?lang=en.
In addition to the youth hostel (albergue juvenil) there is also a hotel there that people have enjoyed. If I get back to the Primitivo again, this will be a stop for me! Buen camino, Laurie
Hi, Kaje,There seem to be so many different options in terms of
i) villages and accommodation for the night
ii) things to see and do
iii) distances to walk
iv) each with their own positives and negatives.
It is rather bewildering to me.
The website mentions the Bronze age and 800bc. Didn’t prehistory end a long thousands of years before that?
How much time will you have in Santiago?Thank you all for the very kind support. I have booked my flight to madrid and accommodation in oviedo, lugo and santiago de compostela.
Out of curiosity, is a day trip by bus to finnestre a worthwhile experience? Or should a day be spent in santiago itself?
Thank you once more.
How much time will you have in Santiago?
Santiago can be difficult after a Camino, very anticlimiatic. So after a quick walk on the 4 streets or so around the cathedral may be enough for you. On the other hand, one can spend a couple of days there chilling, doing the cathedral roof top tour (best guided tour anywhere ever!).
Also, will not seeing Fisterra bug you? Will you keep wondering what ot’s like?
If you decide to bus out to the coast, and if you can spend a night, in good weather, my vote is for Muxia, a perfect place for a quiet wind down, reflection, and the beauty of the coast. A very different vibe than Fisterra, but not the place you read about so often.
Did I just add more anxiety to your planning?
Tell you what: decide on the spot. If you have been walking with someone in particular, your decision may be based on that, and then you go with what ever that cowalking has led you to want to do.
Totally agree with Momonne. Decide when you get there. There is no way to predict how you will feel when you actually walk into Santiago. Some are elated, some are depressed, some just have a flat dull sense. I have had all of those reactions myself in different years.How much time will you have in Santiago?
Santiago can be difficult after a Camino, very anticlimiatic. So after a quick walk on the 4 streets or so around the cathedral may be enough for you. On the other hand, one can spend a couple of days there chilling, doing the cathedral roof top tour (best guided tour anywhere ever!).
Also, will not seeing Fisterra bug you? Will you keep wondering what ot’s like?
If you decide to bus out to the coast, and if you can spend a night, in good weather, my vote is for Muxia, a perfect place for a quiet wind down, reflection, and the beauty of the coast. A very different vibe than Fisterra, but not the place you read about so often.
Did I just add more anxiety to your planning?
Tell you what: decide on the spot. If you have been walking with someone in particular, your decision may be based on that, and then you go with what ever that cowalking has led you to want to do.
One of my "camino regrets" is that I have walked this route three times and have never stayed at Grandas. Tia Valeria years ago described the pre-historic hill for and museum and I thought it sounded so interesting. They seem to have put a lot of money and energy into developing this site for visitors -- look at their website. http://castrochaosamartin.esy.es/?lang=en.
Just finished my first Camino Frances in November and am fascinated with the Primitivo. Look forward to hearing the responses. There is, I know, a very nice Albergue in Grado, too. Just beyond Escamplero.Warm greetings to all. I am planning my tentative route & would appreciate your kind feedback and suggestions if this is feasible. Likely only to use a 32/35L Backpack on the trip.
I will be Arriving in Madrid on 21/5/2018 at 9.40am and take the 11.48am train to Oviedo. Overnight in Oviedo.
Walking starts on 22/5/2018 as follows :
Day 1 - Oviedo to Escamplero (via the Narinco Site) = 17.2kms
Day 2 - Escamplero to Cornellana = 23.8kms
Day 3 - Cornellana to Bodenaya = 17.6kms
Day 4 - Bodenaya to Campiello = 25.2kms
Day 5 - Campiello to Berducedo = 30.8kms (not sure if via pola or hospitales route)
Day 6 - Beducedo to Grandas De Selime = 20.2kms
Day 7 - Grandas De Selime to Padron = 29.2kms
Day 8 - Padron to O Cadavo = 23.8kms
Day 9 - O Cadavo to Lugo - 31kms
Day 10 - Rest Day & Sightseeing in Lugo
Day 11 - Lugo to Ferreira = 29.8kms
Day 12 - Ferreira to Melide = 20kms
Day 13 - Melide to Arzua = 15.1kms
Day 14 - Arzua to Santa Irene = 17.8kms
Day 15 - Santa Irene to Santiago = 24.5kms
Day 16 - Santiago (perhaps bus trip to Finnestre)
Day 17 - Santiago back to Madrid
All advice is most welcome. Thank you.
Not quite “just beyond Esclampero », some 13 km. Makes a big difference for some, especially those who may be suffering from jetlag.Just finished my first Camino Frances in November and am fascinated with the Primitivo. Look forward to hearing the responses. There is, I know, a very nice Albergue in Grado, too. Just beyond Escamplero.
Warm greetings to all. I am planning my tentative route & would appreciate your kind feedback and suggestions if this is feasible. Likely only to use a 32/35L Backpack on the trip.
I will be Arriving in Madrid on 21/5/2018 at 9.40am and take the 11.48am train to Oviedo. Overnight in Oviedo.
Walking starts on 22/5/2018 as follows :
Day 1 - Oviedo to Escamplero (via the Narinco Site) = 17.2kms
Day 2 - Escamplero to Cornellana = 23.8kms
Day 3 - Cornellana to Bodenaya = 17.6kms
Day 4 - Bodenaya to Campiello = 25.2kms
Day 5 - Campiello to Berducedo = 30.8kms (not sure if via pola or hospitales route)
Day 6 - Beducedo to Grandas De Selime = 20.2kms
Day 7 - Grandas De Selime to Padron = 29.2kms
Day 8 - Padron to O Cadavo = 23.8kms
Day 9 - O Cadavo to Lugo - 31kms
Day 10 - Rest Day & Sightseeing in Lugo
Day 11 - Lugo to Ferreira = 29.8kms
Day 12 - Ferreira to Melide = 20kms
Day 13 - Melide to Arzua = 15.1kms
Day 14 - Arzua to Santa Irene = 17.8kms
Day 15 - Santa Irene to Santiago = 24.5kms
Day 16 - Santiago (perhaps bus trip to Finnestre)
Day 17 - Santiago back to Madrid
All advice is most welcome. Thank you.
So, you have walked into Santiago twice. Do you need to do it again?So, May i know, for those who have done it, what is the shortest possible number of days one can complete it? Any suggested way to compact the route is welcome, though i wish i don't have to be in a rush to complete it. Walking is not really any issue, i can cover 27-30km per day without issue. Appreciate your advice, please. Thank you.
Yes, it does. I stopped there in September 2017. The albergue is next to the general store and restaurant. It looked new and was very clean. I recommend it as the owners are really wonderful and the service is great. We paid 10 Euros for the bed and 12 Euros for the dinner. The cost was well worth it and one of the best meals that I had on the Camino. We were also able to buy some food and water in the store for our journey the next day.@AlainC , Campielo has hospies?!
Good to know, thank you. Yet another example of private albergues using hospies. Since they are being called hospies I am guessing not paid, and perhaps foreigners? Or am I being unfair? But that is just me making assumptions. Because both Ricardo’s and Erminia’s places are private/for profit.Yes, it does. I stopped there in September 2017. The albergue is next to the general store and restaurant. It looked new and was very clean. I recommend it as the owners are really wonderful and the service is great. We paid 10 Euros for the bed and 12 Euros for the dinner. The cost was well worth it and one of the best meals that I had on the Camino. We were also able to buy some food and water in the store for our journey the next day.
I stayed in the albergue in Grado this past September (2017). It is very nice, well kept and the hosteleros are great. It is not difficult to find if you follow the signs when you get into the town. Also, it is close to some restaurants should you wish to go for a good meal after a long day of walking.Not quite “just beyond Esclampero », some 13 km. Makes a big difference for some, especially those who may be suffering from jetlag.
I am not sure that I get your drift. The albergue is runned by local people. Yes, there were some volunteers also. There was not a fix price and they rely on donativos to run the place.Good to know, thank you. Yet another example of private albergues using hospies. Since they are being called hospies I am guessing not paid, and perhaps foreigners? Or am I being unfair? But that is just me making assumptions. Because both Ricardo’s and Erminia’s places are private/for profit.
Sorry, this may be a reply to another question. This comment applies to the albergue in Grado. The albergue in Campiello is runned by local people and they charge 10 Euros for a bed.I am not sure that I get your drift. The albergue is runned by local people. Yes, there were some volunteers also. There was not a fix price and they rely on donativos to run the place.
Oh, that’s interesting. I didn't realise Ricardo ran his place on a donativo basis. Eroski doens’t list him as a donativo, nor does Gronze. They both say 10€.I am not sure that I get your drift. The albergue is runned by local people. Yes, there were some volunteers also. There was not a fix price and they rely on donativos to run the place.
So, you have walked into Santiago twice. Do you need to do it again?
If not, take your time to walk from Oviedo to As Seixas, do not even think of setting foot in Melide with your Primitivo mind set unless you are ok with a shock, and enjoy every minute of the Primitivo before it joins the Frances.
Here is a website to help plan stages. http://www.urcamino.com/camino-primitivo
Ern, use www.urcamino.com to plug in the number of days you have available and see what it suggests in terms of stages. It’s a fun site.Thanks for the prompt suggestion, Momonne. Yes, while I have walked into Santiago twice, and the place can get a bit touristy, somehow I still enjoy the feeling of ending it there, and it's a form of closure for me too. Agree with you about Melide. I am wondering if it's possible to cover the route in about 10 days, considering there may not be as many readily available accommodation enroute, as compared to Frances.
. I did the Camino Primitivo this past September (2017) and thoroughly enjoyed it. The first day, I stopped in Grado. It had rained all day and I was very tired by then. The albergue in Grado is very comfortable and the hospitaleros are fantastic. The next three days, I followed a different itinerary than what you have planned but I stopped in Campiello on day 4 like you plan to do. ....... Buen Camino y Ultreia.
Hello Kaje. I did the Camino Primitivo this past September (2017) and thoroughly enjoyed it. The first day, I stopped in Grado. It had rained all day and I was very tired by then. The albergue in Grado is very comfortable and the hospitaleros are fantastic. The next three days, I followed a different itinerary than what you have planned but I stopped in Campiello on day 4 like you plan to do. I highly recommend the albergue in Campiello. It is relatively new, you can wash clothes and they have an electric dryer. Four of us pooled our resources and washed and dried clothes while we relaxed in the late afternoon. The dinner in the albergue was fantastic, the hospitaleros even prepared a vegetarian meal for one of the pilgrims. You plan to go from O'Cadavo to Lugo on day 9. I did that as well. It is a long stretch. You are wise to plan a day of rest in Lugo. I did the same and it helped to regain much needed energy for the rest of the pilgrimage. Do not miss a visit to the cathedral and the roman walls in Lugo. From Lugo to Santiago in 5 days is very feasible. I followed an itinerary similar to your plan except that I did not stop in Santa Irene but in a small village closer to Santiago. Unfortunately, I do not recall the name. The reason for this is that I wanted to arrive in Santiago earlier in the day and a 25 kms walk would have put me in Santiago in late afternoon. When you join the Camino Frances in Melide, you can expect a lot more pilgrims so it is wise to reserve your albergue in advance. When we arrived in Santiago, one of the people that I walked with had not reserved in advance and she had a very difficult time to find a place to stay for the first night. I did not go to Finestere, instead I stayed in Santiago for 2 days and visited many of the sites in and around the cathedral. I flew back to Madrid. If you plan on doing the same, book your flight on the internet. I found that I was overcharged by the travel agency that has an office close to the pilgrim house where you get your Compostela. Buen Camino y Ultreia.
The albergue should have them, you may want to contact them ahead of time and make sure. Also, the tourist kiosk on Calle Uria at the intersection of the street that takes you to the cathedral (at the bottom corner of the park) has them. The kiosk can also give you a city map to show you the way tomthe Naranco buildings. I think I got mine at the cathedral but it opens mid-morning (tenish if I recall). It was still closed to visitors when I popped in but open for those wanting to pray and i was able to get my credencial then, maybe around 9am.Considering I reach Oviedo in the late evening, and leave in the morning, where and what would be the best way to get the camino credential ?
Many thanks in advance.
The owner of at least one of these is the hospitalera, helped by her husband and son. They are lovely people and we actually visited them last year when passing with the car just to say hello.Good to know, thank you. Yet another example of private albergues using hospies. Since they are being called hospies I am guessing not paid, and perhaps foreigners? Or am I being unfair? But that is just me making assumptions. Because both Ricardo’s and Erminia’s places are private/for profit.
I have nothing against people giving back by volunteerng in munis, religious or association albergues, as these places are non for profit and would never hore payed staff to act as hospies, but « giving back » by replacing what would be and should be legally employed locals is not giving back to the Camino, only filling the pockets of the private albergue owners.The owner of at least one of these is the hospitalera, helped by her husband and son. They are lovely people and we actually visited them last year when passing with the car just to say hello.
In other places folk are glad to volunteer to give something back to the Camino. That is not exploitation.
Thanks Momonne. I won't be staying at an albergue in oviedo so I hope the tourist kiosk will be open when I reach in the evening circa 5pm.The albergue should have them, you may want to contact them ahead of time and make sure. Also, the tourist kiosk on Calle Uria at the intersection of the street that takes you to the cathedral (at the bottom corner of the park) has them. The kiosk can also give you a city map to show you the way tomthe Naranco buildings. I think I got mine at the cathedral but it opens mid-morning (tenish if I recall). It was still closed to visitors when I popped in but open for those wanting to pray and i was able to get my credencial then, maybe around 9am.
Thank you kanga for the kind suggestion. It will be the best option, especially if the credential is sent to the hotel in oviedo. Almost like a welcoming treat.
You don’t need to stay at the albegue for it to sell you a crdencial. Here are the cathedral opening hours, for tourists and worship.Thanks Momonne. I won't be staying at an albergue in oviedo so I hope the tourist kiosk will be open when I reach in the evening circa 5pm.
Thank you kanga for the kind suggestion. It will be the best option, especially if the credential is sent to the hotel in oviedo. Almost like a welcoming treat.
If the albergue is donativo then I see no problem, it will not be making a profit but may be bringing some cash into the area. I don't think you will find volunteers taking jobs from locals in reality.I have nothing against people giving back by volunteerng in munis, religious or association albergues, as these places are non for profit and would never hore payed staff to act as hospies, but « giving back » by replacing what would be and should be legally employed locals is not giving back to the Camino, only filling the pockets of the private albergue owners.
Wonder what would happen at the boarder if those coming in to work for free in private albergues actually told customs officers that’s what they were coming into the country to do. Taking jobs away.
And then we tap ourselves on the back, congratulating ourselves for saving dying villages in Spain with our 30€ a day...
You really don’t need to book anything but your arrival day’s bed and the time in Santiago ahead of time. Certainly not albergues.Warm greetings once more.
I have made my hotel reservations for oviedo, lugo, melide & santiago via booking.com. Could anyone suggest a different site to help pre-book either hotels or albergues in advance? Greatly appreciate the help. Thank you.
You really don’t need to book anything but your arrival day’s bed and the time in Santiago ahead of time. Certainly not albergues.
Booking so far in advance may end up forcing you to walk distances you no longer wish to walk, too short or too long, or stay where your new walking buddies are not staying.
Booking through commercial sites also takes away from what small hotels and pensionnes can make due to the commision they have to pay.
My advice is that, if knowing you have a bed for you waiting for you at the end of the day is important to your enjoyment of your walk, is to simply to book the evening before. Lots of phone numbers to call in all the guidebooks. Arrive somewhere at the end of the day, shower, do your laundry, and while you enjoy a bit of rest, decide where you may want to stay the next day and give them a call then.
You will be walking at your rythm, and can plan with your new walking buddies should you wish to.
I assume you mean having a guidebook shipped? If so, know there are many apps with this info, as well as websites like Gronze and Ersoki that list all the albergues and their contact information if you can’t get a paper guidebook. Also, evry day on the Camino you can get info about the next day from hospies, fellow walkers, as well as adverts dor albergues on trees, posts, fences and in albergues. Lots of ways to only book the evening before. And you know, after a day or two walking you may realise everyone else is also walking alone, just like you, amd that it has nothing to do with preplaning. But you may need to experince that yourself to believe it.Thank you so much Momonne for the kind advice. It is not so easy to get a hold of anything related to the camino in Malaysia, so I am just trying my level best to pre plan, as I am walking alone.
Walking in May having some pre-booked accommodation is good. Booking.com allows you to cancel or change dates and we have found that works well. Other sites might be less flexible or are more difficult to work. (eg booking allows date variation, others you have to cancel and re-book). Some hotels have their own booking with payment systems, but you would need to check their policy on date changes etc (as you should also do with booking.com as they do vary.Warm greetings once more.
I have made my hotel reservations for oviedo, lugo, melide & santiago via booking.com. Could anyone suggest a different site to help pre-book either hotels or albergues in advance? Greatly appreciate the help. Thank you.
Warm greetings once more.
I have made my hotel reservations for oviedo, lugo, melide & santiago via booking.com. Could anyone suggest a different site to help pre-book either hotels or albergues in advance? Greatly appreciate the help. Thank you.
I have done this route here is my advice.Warm greetings to all. I am planning my tentative route & would appreciate your kind feedback and suggestions if this is feasible. Likely only to use a 32/35L Backpack on the trip.
I will be Arriving in Madrid on 21/5/2018 at 9.40am and take the 11.48am train to Oviedo. Overnight in Oviedo.
Walking starts on 22/5/2018 as follows :
Day 1 - Oviedo to Escamplero (via the Narinco Site) = 17.2kms
Day 2 - Escamplero to Cornellana = 23.8kms
Day 3 - Cornellana to Bodenaya = 17.6kms
Day 4 - Bodenaya to Campiello = 25.2kms
Day 5 - Campiello to Berducedo = 30.8kms (not sure if via pola or hospitales route)
Day 6 - Beducedo to Grandas De Selime = 20.2kms
Day 7 - Grandas De Selime to Padron = 29.2kms
Day 8 - Padron to O Cadavo = 23.8kms
Day 9 - O Cadavo to Lugo - 31kms
Day 10 - Rest Day & Sightseeing in Lugo
Day 11 - Lugo to Ferreira = 29.8kms
Day 12 - Ferreira to Melide = 20kms
Day 13 - Melide to Arzua = 15.1kms
Day 14 - Arzua to Santa Irene = 17.8kms
Day 15 - Santa Irene to Santiago = 24.5kms
Day 16 - Santiago (perhaps bus trip to Finnestre)
Day 17 - Santiago back to Madrid
All advice is most welcome. Thank you.
Hi, if you have time I'd take a bus trip even to Fisterre, I was there last September (in Santiago after camino from Porto) and we didn't have time to walk so we hired a car and walked up the hill to the 'end of the world', was such an amazing experience and so beautiful..if you can do it I'd highly recommend it! Also myself I am doing Primitivo in May from Oviedo (not sure exact date yet) so maybe see you along the way you never know!Thank you all for the very kind support. I have booked my flight to madrid and accommodation in oviedo, lugo and santiago de compostela.
Out of curiosity, is a day trip by bus to finnestre a worthwhile experience? Or should a day be spent in santiago itself?
Thank you once more.
I have done this route here is my advice.
Travel light really I carried around 10kg
http://caminodesantiago.consumer.es/los-caminos-de-santiago/primitivo/
The etapas show elevations on map interesting to know but does not prepare you for hardships to come
Etapa 8 to O Cádavo for me was the last hard section I found everything easy after that,
I also rested at Lugo you will find the terrain easy after Lugo and be able to do a lot of Km you should be pretty addicted to walking by this point so I think you will walk further and cut down by 2days Imho.
After my camino ingles I also went to Finnestre
Stayed the night bus, got bus in morning to Muxia walked back to Finnestre via beach and up to lighthouse for sunset spectacular.
Again travel light
Buen camino
Dean, thank you kindly for sharing the alternative route. It looks quite different from what I intended to do
In your opinion, was Muxia or Finnestre a nicer destination ?
You plan to go from O'Cadavo to Lugo on day 9. I did that as well. It is a long stretch. You are wise to plan a day of rest in Lugo.
This is a fantastic thread! Thank you all for your wonderful contributions, I have already put a lot of it into my Primitivo 'notes' file.
@kaje - my wife and I will be starting from Oviedo three days behind you on the 25th. If you have the ability and inclination to post some short updates as you go (especially about unexpected closures etc), that would be great. And maybe we'll run into you in Santiago at the end!
Warm greetings once more. I am putting together my packing list, and would greatly appreciate any feedback if I should add/subtract anything :
1. 35l backpack
2. 10° celcius sleeping bag
3. Emergency Medical kit
4. Mini flash light
5. Water bottle 0.75l
6. Toiletries bag/hygiene kit
7. Hiking pants 1, hiking shorts 2
8. Short sleeve Hiking t-shirts 2, Long sleeve hiking shirt 1
9. Long sleeve medium density fleece
10. Hiking socks 3
11. Wicking underpants 3
12. Hiking shoes
13. Sandals or flip flops
14. Lightweight gloves
15. Wide brim hat
16. Sunglasses
17. Micro fibre towel
18. Extra shoe laces.
19. Phone & charger
20. Printed maps of route
Thank you for your kind help.
You could take the ALSA bus to Grado or Salas, or if you walk slowly even as far as Tineo. The Tineo bus runs from Oviedo bus station, times would need checking but it was once a day 6 days a week. Grado and Salas have more buses. The FEVE also runs as far as Grado.May I ask is it possible to complete the Primitivo in about 12-13 days (as I could not get a long enough leave away from work to walk it slowly as I would like)? if there is any stretch that I could possible skip so that the Primitivo could be completed by cutting 1 or 2 days, what stretch would you suggest me to forego, presuming I would be able to get some form of transport to 'fast-track' it a little. Not the most ideal for me, but I wouldn't want to miss the Primitivo if the reason is because I have 1-2 days less.
Appreciate any advice or suggestion, please, for those who have done this route. It is my 3rd camino.
Thank you.
May I ask is it possible to complete the Primitivo in about 12-13 days (as I could not get a long enough leave away from work to walk it slowly as I would like)? if there is any stretch that I could possible skip so that the Primitivo could be completed by cutting 1 or 2 days, what stretch would you suggest me to forego, presuming I would be able to get some form of transport to 'fast-track' it a little. Not the most ideal for me, but I wouldn't want to miss the Primitivo if the reason is because I have 1-2 days less.
Appreciate any advice or suggestion, please, for those who have done this route. It is my 3rd camino.
Thank you.
I have a question pertaining to the Naranco site. Do I have to go back to oviedo afterwards, or is there a route onto the primitivo from the church?
I've tried my best to adjust my schedule, and calculated that if I do not want to miss any part of the route, I would have to complete it in 12 days instead of 13. Has anyone done it in 12 and is ok do-able? Based on the typical 13-day plan, can anyone please suggest at which part can I speed up to cover more distance so that I can reach Santiago at Day 12? Day 2 to 5 appears short and I wonder if it is possible to 'compress' it to within 3 days?
Day 1 Oviedo to Grado (25.2 km)
Day 2 Grado to Salas (22.1)
Day 3 Salas to Tineo (19.8)
Day 4 Tineo to Borres (15.9)
Day 5: Borres to Berducedo (24.1)
Day 6: Berducedo to Granda de Salime (20.4)
Day 7: Granda de Salime to Fonsagrada (25.2)
Day 8: Fonsagrada to O Cadavo (24.3)
Day 9: O Cadavo to Lugo (29.5)
Day 10: Lugo to Ferreira (26.5)
Day 11: Ferreira to Melide (20)
Day 12: Melide to O Pedrouzo (33)
Day 13: O Pedrouzo to SdC (20)
Based on the Camino planner website, to do in 12 days, it suggests the following. Is this feasible too? When I did CF, the longest I covered a day was about 32km.
1 Oviedo to San Juan de Villapanada (28)
2 SJdV to Bodenaya (25)
3 Bodenaya to Campiello (25.2km)
4 Compiello to Berducedo (30.8)
5 Berducedo to Castro (25.4)
6 Castro to Padron (24)
7 Padron to O Cadavo (23.8)
8 O Cadavo to Lugo (31)
9 Lugo to Ferreira (26.5)
10 Ferreira to Boente (26.1)
11 Boente to Santa Irene (26.8)
12 Santa Irene to Santiago (24.5)
Sorry for the many questions, but any advice would really be appreciated.
Out of curiosity, is there a possibility of just winging it, or is it always a better option to pre-plan? Thank you once more.
It's OK to do it in 12 days even less.
Here's my schedule:
1 Oviedo to Grado (26.4)
2 Grado to La Espina (30.7)
3 La Espina to Campiello (24.3km)
4 Campiello to Berducedo (27.5)
5 Berducedo to Grandas de Salime (20)
6 Grandas de Salime to A Fonsagrada (26)
7 A Fonsagrada to O Cadavo (24.7)
8 O Cadavo to Lugo (30.7)
9 Lugo to Ferreira (27.2)
10 Ferreira to Melide (21.5)
11 Melide to A Brea (27.9)
12 A Brea to Santiago (25.2)
Not the best one, but very doable.
Buen Camino!
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