- Time of past OR future Camino
- First one in 1977 by train. Many since then by foot. Next one ASAP.
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I'm currently reading the English translation of the 12th century Guide and by far the longest chapter is a description of the various holy relics one can encounter on the way.
Absolutely agree on the benefits of a new guide. However, as a starting point, the old guide, along with Meczler's extensive notes which bring things up to 1992 (and this was something of particular interest to him), is a good start.Ah, thanks for the reminder! I have a copy somewhere in my study....
But -- The soldiers of secular Revolutionary France ravaged the Camino terribly during the Peninsular War.... The celebrated royal sarcophagi at S. Isidoro in Leon? At S. Maria la Real in Najera? All empty! The dust of the ancient Spanish kings and queens was dumped into the streets.... I only know this because I asked: the modern guardians of those shrines understandably don't like the subject being raised....
And I'll wager that Napoleon's men were no more respectful of the holy relics mentioned in that 12th C guide. Which suggests the need for a new guide, eh?.... What was there in the 12th C may well not be there now.
Pax.
Apparently the Sudarium at Oviedo survived the attentions of those rampaging French republicans, .
They might even get some dna from the holy grail supposedly in a couple of locations either on the camino ot close to itI'm currently reading the English translation of the 12th century Guide and by far the longest chapter is a description of the various holy relics one can encounter on the way.
BTW, if one wanted to demand cloning, a Holy Foreskin is not necessarily required. One might try and get some the required DNA from Holy Blood from one of the Crowns of Thorns or Crucifixion Nails in various churches, or even from the Holy Umbilical Cord at the church of St. John Lateran.
I'm not going to talk about the possibilities inherent in the miracle of transubstantiation, okay?They might even get some dna from the holy grail supposedly in a couple of locations either on the camino ot close to it
Oviedo was one of the places that lay claim to the holy prepuce. Though I can't find a source more reliable than Wikipedia. Apparently the Sudarium at Oviedo survived the attentions of those rampaging French republicans, so does that mean that that wrinkly bit of winkle is still there somewhere amongst the bones & splinters?
I dismiss with cheerful heart the profane suggestion that their are enough fragments of the True Cross to build the Ark. And I still bend a knee to, perhaps, the bones of one who stood with the divine every time I pass through Santiago.
And with that thought this old relic will wend his way to dine.
Well, if they ever found a holy grail on the camino, all miracles would be open to discussionI'm not going to talk about the possibilities inherent in the miracle of transubstantiation, okay?
As has been discussed, there are several that they've found. I've seen at least two: the chalice in Leon mentioned above and the Holy Grail in Valencia (on the Camino de Levante).Well, if they ever found a holy grail on the camino, all miracles would be open to discussion
As has been discussed, there are several that they've found. I've seen at least two: the chalice in Leon mentioned above and the Holy Grail in Valencia (on the Camino de Levante).
The largest single piece can be found at the Franciscan friary of San Toribio de Liébana, on the Camino Vadiniense, about 4 days' walk south of the coast, just outside the town of Potes.
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And of course the one Indiana Jones foundAs has been discussed, there are several that they've found. I've seen at least two: the chalice in Leon mentioned above and the Holy Grail in Valencia (on the Camino de Levante).
hehehe... i like the sarcasm... i see that you are a very good man who respect other person's religious faith.... I can also see that your mother is very proud on how you grown up to the man that you are...... anyway the older the relic is, the chances of it being authentic is higher. Throughout history, relics became the spice trade of the religious world but not all spices are created equalIf you ever find yourself in Bethlehem you can buy a complete set of Joseph’s chisels on every street corner. I was tempted by his (guaranteed) professional-quality cordless drill, but didn’t think that EasyJet would let me take it on board.,
I did buy a (genuine) crown of thorns for my mother, but she wouldn’t wear it and suggested I shove it somewhere anatomically impossible.
The abundance of relics is comical - but bear in mind that the numbers have likely reduced, and there’s a chance that one of the claimants is right.
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