Alex Krizel
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Hi, Alex,
Welcome to the forum.
A few more things for you to chew on as you make a decision between Porto and Lisbon. The fast train (and there are quite a few a day) from Lisbon to Porto only takes about 3 hours, I think). There are two train stations in Lisbon, and the trains to Porto will stop at both places. The Oriente train station is actually quite close to the airport, and it's only two or three stops on the metro. The metro going into central Lisbon from the airport takes quite the circuituous route and a much longer time. You would have to change twice to get from the airport to Santa Apolonia station on the metro. A cab from the airport to Oriente would be about a five minute ride.
I'm not sure that when all is said and done that you save much time by flying into Lisbon. And if you don't start in Porto you are looking at another train or bus to get you to Tui. I think it would have to be bus, but I am not sure.
SdC back to Lisbon is either a long day bus ride, or a train ride with a change in Vigo (and there is a change in time between Portugal and Spain, so you have to factor that in, too).
As for whether you will "miss a great deal" between Porto and Tui, I think the obvious answer is yes. But any camino is about making choices, so I think the call is not whether you will miss a lot, but whether you feel more comfortable with a more relaxed camino and fewer kms.
If it were me, I'd plot out the total travel times with each option and see how many days that left me, and then choose the route that feels best in that time frame. Good luck with the planning!
Hi. walked this route in June. Blog on www.gittiharre.blogspot.comGreetings again.
As I start to plan, I find that I have more and more questions.
I can find many answers on the posts here, but some others I'm still looking.
If I missed it, sorry about that.
I am planning a trip along the Portuguese Traditional route (Porto to SdC).
I have 2 weeks in which to complete it.
I live on the East Coast of the US.
Looking up flights, I can go to Porto via Madrid.
This is about a 12 hour flight.
On the way back, I can go SdC home via Madrid and others (Dublin I believe was an option).
This ranges from 16 hours to 45 hours.
Meanwhile, I can fly into Lisbon of about the same price, non-stop, taking only 7 hours.
So, no-brainer, right?
Well, that depends.
How easy is it to get to Porto from Lisbon?
Then, how difficult is it to get from SdC back to Lisbon?
Also, what's the 'general' cost?
Next, I was hoping to start in Porto.
This should give me just enough time to go to SdC and fly home.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't have much "buffer" time in case of weather, emergency, etc.
Then I thought maybe I can do it a bit different.
What if I start in Tui, head to SdC, then on to Finisterre (I wanted to go there, but time constraints wouldn't let me if I started in Porto).
This should be about 8-9 days and leave plenty of time as a buffer or just to explore (which I am sure I will do quite a bit as it will be my first Camino).
Any thoughts on this?
Will I miss a great deal between Porto and Tui?
Lastly, how much should I plan to bring in terms of money (I am assuming I would need to change to Euros)?
I mean an average per-day expense?
Hostel, food, misc, cafe, un poco de vino o cerveza?
Ok, that's about it for now.
I'm working the pack issue (actually getting one for the Camino, not the monster I used on the AT).
Looks like 30L will do me, just looking at styles.
Thanks again for all your help.
Alex
My pack by the way is deuter groeden 30 ltr plenty big enough.Hi. walked this route in June. Blog on www.gittiharre.blogspot.com
40 Euros per day with good food and cerveca and mix of accommodation. Could be 10 to 15 euros cheaper if you stay solely in albergues and dorms.
Cheap train Lisbon to Porto. Pre booked on portuguese railway internet site. About 20 Euros.
Not sure about Santiago to Lisbon.
Overall quite a nice route with some highlights. Liked the portuguese segment rather more than the Spanish part. Ugly towns leading up to Santiago and too much road walking.
The trainstation of Fatima is 20 kms far away from the place to be so far the bus is the best option.http://lisbon-portugal-guide.com/lisbon-transport/Lisbon-to-Fatima-Transport.htmlHi Alex,
My wife and I will be doing the CP in May of 2017. We're flying in to Lisbon because we want to visit Fatima before we actually begin our Camino in Porto. We'll take a bus or train from Fatima -- we'll decide which as the time approaches. We plan to do a combination of the coastal route and the central route, and after we reach Santiago we're going back a ways on the Camino Francés to pick up a stretch we missed on that route due to time constraints when we did it in 2013. That means we'll be returning to Lisbon from León for the flight home. There are many options for that leg of the journey, all of which will involve at least two or three transfers, but we'll figure that out later. Don't delay too long on your ticket purchase for the overseas flights -- there are some great deals available right now. We bought our two round trip tickets from Denver to Lisbon last week using Rome2Rio.com, and we paid less than half of what our two round trips to Madrid cost us in 2013.
I'm not quite the minimalist that brickthomas is (I met him and saw his pack in 2013). I routinely use an Osprey 22 for my daypack when hiking around here and don't think there's any way I could squeeze my Camino kit into it. I'll be taking the same Osprey Kestrel 38 that I used on the CF. However, with judicious gear selection you could probably get by with a 30 or 32 liter pack no problemo.
Nice blog. Memorias feliçes !Hi. walked this route in June. Blog on www.gittiharre.blogspot.com
40 Euros per day with good food and cerveca and mix of accommodation. Could be 10 to 15 euros cheaper if you stay solely in albergues and dorms.
Cheap train Lisbon to Porto. Pre booked on portuguese railway internet site. About 20 Euros.
Not sure about Santiago to Lisbon.
Overall quite a nice route with some highlights. Liked the portuguese segment rather more than the Spanish part. Ugly towns leading up to Santiago and too much road walking.
Thank you, Albertinho.The trainstation of Fatima is 20 kms far away from the place to be so far the bus is the best option.http://lisbon-portugal-guide.com/lisbon-transport/Lisbon-to-Fatima-Transport.html
I did Lisbon to Porto via train and then hiked the Camino to Santiago last May. Then returned by train. You need to change trains in Vigo. The ticket office in Santiago is very helpful. B-T-W, I did the same Santiago to Lisbon by train via Vigo and Porto after completing the French Route in 2014. Both trips were easy and convenient. Bom Camino.Greetings again.
As I start to plan, I find that I have more and more questions.
I can find many answers on the posts here, but some others I'm still looking.
If I missed it, sorry about that.
I am planning a trip along the Portuguese Traditional route (Porto to SdC).
I have 2 weeks in which to complete it.
I live on the East Coast of the US.
Looking up flights, I can go to Porto via Madrid.
This is about a 12 hour flight.
On the way back, I can go SdC home via Madrid and others (Dublin I believe was an option).
This ranges from 16 hours to 45 hours.
Meanwhile, I can fly into Lisbon of about the same price, non-stop, taking only 7 hours.
So, no-brainer, right?
Well, that depends.
How easy is it to get to Porto from Lisbon?
Then, how difficult is it to get from SdC back to Lisbon?
Also, what's the 'general' cost?
Next, I was hoping to start in Porto.
This should give me just enough time to go to SdC and fly home.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't have much "buffer" time in case of weather, emergency, etc.
Then I thought maybe I can do it a bit different.
What if I start in Tui, head to SdC, then on to Finisterre (I wanted to go there, but time constraints wouldn't let me if I started in Porto).
This should be about 8-9 days and leave plenty of time as a buffer or just to explore (which I am sure I will do quite a bit as it will be my first Camino).
Any thoughts on this?
Will I miss a great deal between Porto and Tui?
Lastly, how much should I plan to bring in terms of money (I am assuming I would need to change to Euros)?
I mean an average per-day expense?
Hostel, food, misc, cafe, un poco de vino o cerveza?
Ok, that's about it for now.
I'm working the pack issue (actually getting one for the Camino, not the monster I used on the AT).
Looks like 30L will do me, just looking at styles.
Thanks again for all your help.
Alex
You can fly, and fly cheaply, within Europe and can check out the fares for your travel dates online.Greetings again.
As I start to plan, I find that I have more and more questions.
I can find many answers on the posts here, but some others I'm still looking.
If I missed it, sorry about that.
I am planning a trip along the Portuguese Traditional route (Porto to SdC).
I have 2 weeks in which to complete it.
I live on the East Coast of the US.
Looking up flights, I can go to Porto via Madrid.
This is about a 12 hour flight.
On the way back, I can go SdC home via Madrid and others (Dublin I believe was an option).
This ranges from 16 hours to 45 hours.
Meanwhile, I can fly into Lisbon of about the same price, non-stop, taking only 7 hours.
So, no-brainer, right?
Well, that depends.
How easy is it to get to Porto from Lisbon?
Then, how difficult is it to get from SdC back to Lisbon?
Also, what's the 'general' cost?
Next, I was hoping to start in Porto.
This should give me just enough time to go to SdC and fly home.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't have much "buffer" time in case of weather, emergency, etc.
Then I thought maybe I can do it a bit different.
What if I start in Tui, head to SdC, then on to Finisterre (I wanted to go there, but time constraints wouldn't let me if I started in Porto).
This should be about 8-9 days and leave plenty of time as a buffer or just to explore (which I am sure I will do quite a bit as it will be my first Camino).
Any thoughts on this?
Will I miss a great deal between Porto and Tui?
Lastly, how much should I plan to bring in terms of money (I am assuming I would need to change to Euros)?
I mean an average per-day expense?
Hostel, food, misc, cafe, un poco de vino o cerveza?
Ok, that's about it for now.
I'm working the pack issue (actually getting one for the Camino, not the monster I used on the AT).
Looks like 30L will do me, just looking at styles.
Thanks again for all your help.
Alex
I did Lisbon to Porto via train and then hiked the Camino to Santiago last May. Then returned by train. You need to change trains in Vigo. The ticket office in Santiago is very helpful. B-T-W, I did the same Santiago to Lisbon by train via Vigo and Porto after completing the French Route in 2014. Both trips were easy and convenient. Bom Camino.
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