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marigold said:In the guide however it says that 'less fit walkers should not take the Napoleon route but should take the Road route'.
Hi Marigold Roncevalles is BIG! But what time of year are you going? If its Spring/Autumn should be OK. But be mindful it's a late Easter -24th of April this year so it gets a busy around that time. Even in the unlikely event that Roncevalles is'full' Burgette is about 2 or 3 km futher along and it has accommodation.marigold said:Thanks for the info about the two routes and your experiences. This forum is great
Next question is, what happens if you arrive late in the day at Roncesvalles? If it takes 10 or more hours you would arrive early evening - then would all the beds be taken? Maybe you need to start out at dawn?
The Pilgrim Office in SJPP gives out a map that includes both routes. And when I walked in 2008, their advice was that you could take the higher Napoleon route if the weather was ok, but that you listen to the locals if they suggested you needed to take the lower Valcarlos route. We were fortunate to have good calm weather, a little bit cloudy so it wasn't too hot, and with amazing views. The morning after, when we woke in Roncesvalles, the rain was intense, and I can't imagine it would have been nearly so nice doing the crossing.marigold said:I'm confused that the Confraternity Guide advises the road way (Valcarlos) as being an easier option, yet the tourist office advises the higher (Orisson) one.
From the Roncesvalles albergue website. The place does fill up, but they have a stack of mattresses that expand the capacity a little bit. Occupancy limits are sometimes enforced in Spain for safety reasons, are are almost always enforced in France (if you are interested). If you imagine a fire in the Roncesvalles albergue with its one door, you will understand the attitude of the junta officials. They do not want to be part of a news conference where pilgrims were trapped because mattress obstructed a rapid exit.Refugio "Itzandegia"
Dependiente de la Real Colegiata de Roncesvalles. Un espacioso salón restaurado, originario del siglo XII. Dispone de 124 literas. Está dotado con calefacción, agua caliente para la ducha y servicios. Solamente se puede pasar una noche en él, salvo casos de circunstancias de dificultad mayor. Es necesario presentar a la entrada la Credencial del Peregrino y el tiket de inscripción. Precio: 6 euros.
Well, seeing that you have almost two years to get conditioned to walk across Spain, I would say simply walk all the way to Roncesvalles the first day via the Napoleon route, unless advised otherwise (bad weather) by the pilgrim's office to take the ValCarlos route.Lots of good information here. I was also wandering if I should go to Roncesvalles in one day, but I think I will play it safe (I chicken out). Do we have to have reservation at Valcarlos?
Hi, I walked to the albergue Orisson in about 2 till 2.5 hours. Buen Camino, Peter.How long does it take to walk from SJPdP to Orrison? I'm reasonably fit (work out three times a week, walk a lot).
Think I payed about 30 with evening meal and breakfast Inc...in April this year...Good place to stop...nice pilgrims meal where you meet a small number of pilgrims many of whom will feature in your pilgrim family at various times until Santiago....I liked it.Hi =I just checked on the web for the private albergue listed at Orisson-
the price listed was 30 euro-
Although it looks a beautiful place to stay (and the only one) the cost does seem rather high for pilgrims. I noted a member on this forum said the cost was 15...hmm...does not seem to be the case.
Take the Valcarlos route, and a bed is 10E in the albergue, and they have a kitchen.lodging/dinner/breakfast at 35 euro
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