CamelBak "in" backpack

AggieWM · Aug 19, 2017

Can anyone help with this? Am I correct in assuming that in an Osprey Talon 33 M/L (that has the feature: Hydration compartment opens between the torso adjustment and main pack compartment, making it easily accessible from the outside), it is acceptable to just use the plastic bag part of the CamelBak without it protective pouch? In other words: am I not running the risk of a leaking plastic CamelBak if I want to use it without its protective pouch for three weeks? Any reactions would be appreciated. Aggie

AggieWM · Aug 19, 2017

jesper K said:
Well yes - you can easily use the camelbak bladder without the pouch. Remember the pouch has been made to military specs - just don´t put it in a place with other stuff that might ruin it. Don´t know about the Osprey - just make sure it has a small draining hole opening in the bottom. Not saying it will leak ha ha - the camelbak bladder has been made to very high standards and specifications.

Thank you, Jesper. Aggie

Deleted member 67185 · Aug 19, 2017

Yes, no problem.

I prefer the Platypus Big Zip mouth... either 2 liter or 3 liter. I installed a quick disconnect kit to the feeding tube, above the mouthpiece, so that I don't have to remove the bladder to refill. I just disconnect the mouthpiece, fill the extra collapsible water pouch I carry with water, and then screw on the connector cap which clicks the pouch into the quick disconnect. You just quickly squeeze the water from the pouch to fill the bladder, disconnect when finished, then click in the mouthpiece.

It takes about 40 seconds to do all that, and I don't have to open up the pack, dig out the bladder, fill the bladder, then put it back into place.

There are quick disconnect kits for Camelback bladders, too.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002IAMPGM/?tag=casaivar02-20

This video demonstrates the installation and function of the quic disconnect. This shows a water filter installed on the bottle, but the collabsible water pouch works the same way without the filter.

jo webber · Aug 19, 2017

I have an Osprey Mira, the water bladder is very well made, does have a separate area between the stuff compartment and the back vent area. The compartment is water proof, so even if it breaks your stuff won't get wet. It is a complete pain to fill it in it's holding area or put it in full of water without taking half your stuff out of the pack. There is a small drain hole at the bottom of the bladder holding area.

It's a large bladder, so not sure where / how you would carry it outside of the pack.

Deleted member 67185 · Aug 19, 2017

jo webber said:
I have an Osprey Mira, the water bladder is very well made, does have a separate area between the stuff compartment and the back vent area. The compartment is water proof, so even if it breaks your stuff won't get wet. It is a complete pain to fill it in it's holding are or put it in full of water without taking half your stuff out of the pack. There is a small drain hole at the bottom of the bladder holding area.

It's a large bladder, so not sure where / how you would carry it outside of the pack.

Install a quick disconnect kit to the tube above the mouthpiece. No more removing the bladder from the pack just for water refills.

In the video below, ignore the water filter that is screwed onto the collapsable water pouch. Everything works the same without the filter.

alaskadiver · Aug 19, 2017

It's supposed to be used without the pouch

AggieWM said:
Can anyone help with this? Am I correct in assuming that in an Osprey Talon 33 M/L (that has the feature: Hydration compartment opens between the torso adjustment and main pack compartment, making it easily accessible from the outside), it is acceptable to just use the plastic bag part of the CamelBak without it protective pouch? In other words: am I not running the risk of a leaking plastic CamelBak if I want to use it without its protective pouch for three weeks? Any reactions would be appreciated. Aggie

it's supposed to be used without the pouch. In over 20 years of hard backpacking we've never had a Camelbak leak.

AggieWM · Aug 20, 2017

davebugg said:
Yes, no problem.

I prefer the Platypus Big Zip mouth... either 2 liter or 3 liter. I installed a quick disconnect kit to the feeding tube, above the mouthpiece, so that I don't have to remove the bladder to refill. I just disconnect the mouthpiece, fill the extra collapsible water pouch I carry with water, and then screw on the connector cap which clicks the pouch into the quick disconnect. You just quickly squeeze the water from the pouch to fill the bladder, disconnect when finished, then click in the mouthpiece.

It takes about 40 seconds to do all that, and I don't have to open up the pack, dig out the bladder, fill the bladder, then put it back into place.

There are quick disconnect kits for Camelback bladders, too.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002IAMPGM/?tag=casaivar02-20

This video demonstrates the installation and function of the quic disconnect. This shows a water filter installed on the bottle, but the collabsible water pouch works the same way without the filter.

Thanks, Dave. I will look into that.

jo webber said:
I have an Osprey Mira, the water bladder is very well made, does have a separate area between the stuff compartment and the back vent area. The compartment is water proof, so even if it breaks your stuff won't get wet. It is a complete pain to fill it in it's holding area or put it in full of water without taking half your stuff out of the pack. There is a small drain hole at the bottom of the bladder holding area.

It's a large bladder, so not sure where / how you would carry it outside of the pack.

AggieWM · Aug 20, 2017

jo webber said:
I have an Osprey Mira, the water bladder is very well made, does have a separate area between the stuff compartment and the back vent area. The compartment is water proof, so even if it breaks your stuff won't get wet. It is a complete pain to fill it in it's holding area or put it in full of water without taking half your stuff out of the pack. There is a small drain hole at the bottom of the bladder holding area.

It's a large bladder, so not sure where / how you would carry it outside of the pack.

Thanks for your input, Jo.

Deleted member 3000 · Aug 20, 2017

My biggest recurring problem with the Camelbak is the bite valve. Multiple times I have set down my pack on the bite valve and ended up with a puddle and wet backpack. There are separate devices to clip the tube to a strap, but I have always lost them. Slipping the tube through a pack loop works fairly well, but the tube always manages to find its way to the ground. It is bad for cleanliness, and very bad for wood floors! My in-pack pouch is waterproof, but I have never had a leak, so I don't know if it has sufficient capacity for the entire Camelbak capacity. The bladders are very indestructible, but don't pack sharp objects next to it (fork, ice spikes, etc.).

james walter purdum iv · Aug 20, 2017

AggieWM said:
Can anyone help with this? Am I correct in assuming that in an Osprey Talon 33 M/L (that has the feature: Hydration compartment opens between the torso adjustment and main pack compartment, making it easily accessible from the outside), it is acceptable to just use the plastic bag part of the CamelBak without it protective pouch? In other words: am I not running the risk of a leaking plastic CamelBak if I want to use it without its protective pouch for three weeks? Any reactions would be appreciated. Aggie

I used the osprey 50l and it does have a bladder insert. I put a bladder in but never used it. There are enough fountains on the first half to use a 1liter bottle and just pound one and refill to drink to the next fountain

notion900 · Aug 20, 2017

@james walter purdum iv you don't know where she is planning to walk.

james walter purdum iv · Aug 20, 2017

notion900 said:
@james walter purdum iv you don't know where she is planning to walk.

Oops my bladder.. lol

AggieWM · Aug 21, 2017

davebugg said:
Yes, no problem.

I prefer the Platypus Big Zip mouth... either 2 liter or 3 liter. I installed a quick disconnect kit to the feeding tube, above the mouthpiece, so that I don't have to remove the bladder to refill. I just disconnect the mouthpiece, fill the extra collapsible water pouch I carry with water, and then screw on the connector cap which clicks the pouch into the quick disconnect. You just quickly squeeze the water from the pouch to fill the bladder, disconnect when finished, then click in the mouthpiece.

It takes about 40 seconds to do all that, and I don't have to open up the pack, dig out the bladder, fill the bladder, then put it back into place.

There are quick disconnect kits for Camelback bladders, too.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002IAMPGM/?tag=casaivar02-20

This video demonstrates the installation and function of the quic disconnect. This shows a water filter installed on the bottle, but the collabsible water pouch works the same way without the filter.

Thanks for the info, Dave. Aggie

Deleted member 67185 · Aug 21, 2017

AggieWM said:
Thanks for the info, Dave. Aggie

Glad to help

J F Gregory · Aug 21, 2017

I use the SNEP Convertube Water Bottle Adapter Kit to attach to a Smart Water bottle and carry it in the side pocket, I have used the Camel Back bladder,, I find them impractical and have a tendency to fill too much adding weight. The bottle is easy to get to and refill and if the bottle gets gross buy another bottle of water.

Deleted member 67185 · Aug 21, 2017

J F Gregory said:
I use the SNEP Convertube Water Bottle Adapter Kit to attach to a Smart Water bottle and carry it in the side pocket, I have used the Camel Back bladder,, I find them impractical and have a tendency to fill too much adding weight. The bottle is easy to get to and refill and if the bottle gets gross buy another bottle of water.

I've never had a problem with adding more water than I wanted to. I don't think that is much of an issue

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