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Camino Phrases and Titles

He was just full of himself, which is sad for someone that walked so much
It was indeed sad: maybe a combination of stupidity (he didn't know any better) and insensitivity. But as a forum member I have occasionally been guilty of these two human failings, even in forum postings. It was unfortunate that the context made it unlikely he would be able to learn better and behave better, at least to you. If I stopped going on camino because I acted stupid and insensitive on occasion, I would miss out on opportunities to learn from others and to do better. I walk the caminos as my way of living a spiritual retreat, with the intention of growing as a Christian and as a human being. Maybe this young man will find his way to grow as a person.
 
The one from Galicia (the round) and the one from Castilla & Leon. Individually numbered and made by the same people that make the ones you see on your walk.
I would miss out on opportunities to learn from others and to do better.

That is so true! People mentioned before that "the camino provides" phrase can be irritating when said for whatever reason, but I'm actually on the team that likes it. I think "camino" is kind of a metaphore for "life", and that we eventually learn things that we need, one way or another.

As for the original topic, I really can´t think of anything irritating in the Camino, except for discussions of what a "real camino/real pilgrim" is. Or walking stick noise, which is easily fixed with rubber tips - or walking at a quicker/slower pace than the person making the noise
 


Now you're quibbling ex-post facto, and that annoys me. Oops, I wasn't going to get annoyed at anything. Please accept my apology and excuse me while I refill my wine glass.
 
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This is really helpful!
Thanks for all this information.
 

I had the same experience after walking the Primitivo. A young man I met in Santiago who had just walked from SJPDP. I resisted the temptation to point out that I had walked "the real Camino" before the irritating PIA was even born and I also refrained from asking him to consider the meaning of "Primitivo"
 
The Camino provides!!! Drives me crazy for some reason. I've always thought the Camino doesn't provide, God does...
 
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The Camino provides!!! Drives me crazy for some reason. I've always thought the Camino doesn't provide, God does...

I always tend to think that many who love to say 'The Camino Provides' are really poor planners and expect some other poor sap to bail them out if they get into trouble......... Seen it a few times.........
 
The Camino provides!!! Drives me crazy for some reason. I've always thought the Camino doesn't provide, God does...
I think God has a tendency to work through others. When people say Grace and thank God for the food they are eating they aren't denying the role of the farmers, the people who bought the food, and the people who cooked the food. They know they are there. They are just acknowledging God behind it all.

I think "the Camino provides" is the same in reverse. Somewhere inside, people who say this think that God loves the Camino and pilgrims and works through the Camino to provide for pilgrims' needs (not necessarily wants). I think something similar is going on with the expression "Camino angel", recognizing that, like angels, these people are instruments of implementing God's will.
 
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I always tend to think that many who love to say 'The Camino Provides' are really poor planners and expect some other poor sap to bail them out if they get into trouble......... Seen it a few times.........
@Robo
Some people walk in faith, who might not have been able to walk at all if they had not taken this step. I have met such people at donativos. I honour their faith on occasion by helping them out, usually persons who have planned at best they could then chose to go on when their plan didn't work out or the money ran out. I figure that I need their faith more than they need my money.
 
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What really really annoys me is sitting at a café table with 8 others from my Camino Family and the waiter drops off 4 bottles of wine (The Waiter Provides!!!) and everyone wants some...now that's enough to pi$$ anybody off!
 

Interesting Read...The Highways and Byways of Surrey. It discusses the validity, or not, of the concept of only 1 Pilgrimage Route in the first Chapter. I recognize that it is about the pilgrimage to Canterbury and Thomas ABecket but I think transferring the concepts discussed at least adds to the conversation...The book is available for free from the Gutenberg Project. I downloaded my copy from the UK site. Too much info to provide a quote but worth the time in mho.
 
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Interesting Read...The Highways and Byways of Surrey. It discusses the validity, or not, of the concept of only 1 Pilgrimage Route in the first Chapter. [...]The book is available for free from the Gutenberg Project.
Great info! Thank you so much. I've downloaded a copy and had a quick look into Chapter I. Will read it now. And then I will explore my newest acquisition ... The Highways and Byways of Sussex.
 
I’ve lived with “ATM machine” for years (automatic teller machine machine), but my favorite really is “Why do we drive on the Parkway and park on the driveway?
 
“¡Adelante!” works as well!
 
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So does "Ultreia!" If you want to get fancy, and you hear someone say "Ultreia!", you can respond "e Suseia!".

Literally they mean "Onward!" and "and Upward!". Rumour has it that they were the pilgrims' greetings in the Middle Ages.

Alternatively, and more cynically -- "go away and be off with you" ; some far more rude "translations" do exist.
 
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I’m with you, Chris.
 
I do see plenty of optimism in this post by lots of pilgrims but not by the originator whom my reply was intended. And yes, I did see the other bated vs. baited and chuckled as well but after my reply. I didn't mean to upset anyone, just wanted to share some thoughts.
 
Camino colloquial lingo I would say. It oozes romance of some kind.
 
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The internet gives everyone a microphone. Surely it could be better used than to broadcast your low level of annoyance.
If you were trolling you must have got your giggles by now.
 
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3 months ago I walked the Camino kodo in Japan. There is no phrases and greeting or anything like in Spain. Although I also was annoyed with saying buen Camino a million times a day in Spain I was missing this greatly in japan. You would walk and just pass someone and sometimes you would give a nod. I felt these phrases acted as glue or as a common ground in Spain which connected all nationalities. I felt these were the baseline of the commeradery felt in Spain. This was missing in Japan and with it the commeradery and community. I started saying it after a while just because I tried to get that feeling of community again. I got a little bit back from the once who walked in Spain before!
So think again if you find these annoying. They are the baseline of this fantastic feeling of community. Yes they get annoying but I rather say buen Camino a million times to create this community feeling then just walk with a bunch of people in the same direction
Andrea
 
3 months ago I walked the Camino kodo in Japan. There is no phrases and greeting or anything like in Spain. Although I also was annoyed with saying buen Camino a million times a day in Spain I was missing this greatly in japan.

I walked for two months in Japan last year - both on Shikoku and on the Kumano Kodo. I found other walkers and local people very friendly and welcoming and I cannot recall any occasion when a polite greeting was not returned. There may not be a single universal equivalent of "Buen Camino" but simply using the ordinary Japanese greetings for the time of day like "ohayo gozaimasu" or "konnichiwa" or "konbanwa" with an appropriate bow made my encounters with other pilgrims very pleasant.
 
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I fear that I have an evil sprite in me, as someone who takes really obscure Caminos, which takes delight in my saying "out of Montserrat," "Irun by the Vadiniense," "Mont Saint Michel," and "Lerida and Tarazona and up through Silos," to folk such as that.
 
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I also walked the Way of 88 Temples on Shikoku, Japan in 2017 & can echo your thoughts on the kindness, friendliness & helpfulness of the local people.
There is a Japanese equivalent of 'Buen Camino' which I heard often (& said myself). It is used to greet or farewell henro (pilgrim). The word is 'Ganbatte' (also spelt Gambatte) which basically translates to 'keep going' or 'do your best'. Unless you're familiar with the word, it can be initially difficult for an English-speaking ear to pick up.
Incidentally, the Way of 88 Temples is my favourite of all the walks/pilgrimages I've done..I still miss it & Japan to this day.
 
Hi Andrea,
Please see my response to Bradypus...there is a Japanese equivalent to 'Buen Camino'.
When walking in non-Western countries, we need to be aware of cultural differences. The Japanese are a reserved people & it is not in their nature to be as 'up front' as Westerners are. I also found the Japanese were very often surprised to see a foreigner on the trail & therefore quite taken aback. I confess I am responsible for a few locals taking a tumble such was their surprise!
There is a pilgrim/walking community feel on the Shikoku pilgrimage...& this is due to how revered the pilgrimage is & therefore the pilgrims (henro) are revered too. It does not have the party trail element which some paths now do. I'm saddened to think you weren't able to fully experience & appreciate the uniqueness of your Japanese pilgrimage by seeming to expect it to feel like trails in other parts of the world.
Ganbatte
 
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There is a Japanese equivalent of 'Buen Camino' which I heard often (& said myself). It is used to greet or farewell henro (pilgrim). The word is 'Ganbatte' (also spelt Gambatte) which basically translates to 'keep going' or 'do your best'.

Yes - I had also heard and said "Ganbatte" while on Shikoku and the Kumano Kodo. Though I did not find it used as often and as automatically as "Buen Camino" is said on the Caminos. A bit more variety in Shikoku
 
Yes - I had also heard and said "Ganbatte" while on Shikoku and the Kumano Kodo. Though I did not find it used as often and as automatically as "Buen Camino" is said on the Caminos. A bit more variety in Shikoku
True...& that's the beauty of it; it manages to retain its meaning & the sentiment behind it without being an auto-response
 
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