Ian Hyndman
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There are 4 routes out of Porto. I have done the central one and don’t recommend.My partner and I are planning on making our first Camino in September/October 2020. We will start in Porto. Which of the routes provides the most scenic countryside and least road walking?
Ponferada is on the French route. I think you meant Pontevedra.I liked the seaside route as it offered long sections along the coast, sometimes on boardwalks, occasionally on a beach. It joins the Central route in Spain after Vigo at Redondela. Then you are on the most popular route. After Ponferada there is the option of the Esperitual variation to Vilanova then by boat to Padron where you rejoin the Central route.
After Barcelos it the Centeal Route as being called improves indeed.I've walked the Central and the Littoral (which hugs the beach). both times I walked in to Tui and then stayed on the same path after Tui.
I would 100% recommend the coast out of Porto... stay beside the river and walk along the beach. I felt that the central route improved after Barcelos and I really enjoyed the walk from there. Lots of history and fabulous countryside.
I'd like to walk this route again one day with my husband and I'd walk the sections I've not yet walked... including the Variente. But I would choose to walk from Barcelos to Tui again... it's a lovely walk.
Whatever you choose have a great time!
There is a different one anyway between Viana do Castello and Caminha. It leads through the hills about 400 to 500 meters from the seaside , waymarked with yellow markers . You can see the path at the seaside from there most of the time.As I wrote in a previous post, there’s no riight answer and there’s tons of debate about this on this forum. Depends on what you like, and maybe on where you’re from. Far more pilgrims on the central, and more of a pilgrim “vibe”, like on the Frances. More historical towns on the central. The coastal has fewer pilgrims, and less pilgrim infrastructure, but many find it beautiful with the ocean (almost) always within sight. We’re from coastal California, and perhaps for that reason, we found the coastal route rather monotonous, with dull, touristy beach towns, and nothing but pavement or boardwalks underfoot, so 2 days north of Porto, at Esposende, we decided to switch back to the central, and continued on from there. Overall, we found the central to be green and rolling, with more variation in scenery, and although there's plenty of pavement, it was less than on the coastal route.
The good thing is you don’t have to make up your mind until you’re in Porto, and even if you start on one, you can switch over to the other easily enough, with buses or taxis linking the towns along the two routes. Weather is also a factor. If the forecast is for warm, sunny weather, it will be cooler on the coast. If the forecast is for rain, you’ll have a cold wind off the ocean whipping your face on the coastal route, while on the central route you’ll be more sheltered.
I think Happymarkos may be a bit confusing above. The "seaside" route is also known as the Senda Litoral. The differences between it and the Coastal Route are minor, and often the two routes are the same. When they differ, it's generally that the Senda Liitoral will take you right along the sand, while the Coastal Route will be along a boardwalk or road flanking the beach -- in other words, often only 100 yards part. Both go through the same places, and you can skip back and forth between the two almost at will. If you get Brierley's guidebook, the differences between all the routes will be clear.
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One other piece of advice is to consider trail runners or some other form of lighter footwear than boots for your Camino Portugues. This isn't a rough trail and there isn't a lot of rock climbing, so boots aren't essential and you might find that lighter footwear makes for easier walking.just want to thank all of the fellow pilgrims who contributed their advice - great, thank you. We are really excited and already starting to plan kit. My "other half" is gradually breaking in her new boots walking around Dubai malls!! Wish everyone a great 2020 wherever you are.
Check out the trailsmart app it shows all the routes plus "extras". I like the costal route you can follow it for quite awhile. And the spiritual variant is definitely worth doing if you have time.My partner and I are planning on making our first Camino in September/October 2020. We will start in Porto. Which of the routes provides the most scenic countryside and least road walking?
I agree completely. A really good pair of trail runners will definitely do the trick. My Brooks Cascadias are light and have very good absorbtion and support no matter what surface you are on. Even black tarmac and cobblestone. Go with the trail runners especially as Dave says it is not a really difficult camino with really challenging paths to navigate.One other piece of advice is to consider trail runners or some other form of lighter footwear than boots for your Camino Portugues. This isn't a rough trail and there isn't a lot of rock climbing, so boots aren't essential and you might find that lighter footwear makes for easier walking.
I wore Merrell Moabs on my Caminos, but were I to do the Portugues again, I would probably wear Hoka One Ones. Whether you take the Coastal or the Central you will have plenty of occasion to walk along cobblestone roads during the Portuguese portion of the Camino and the extra cushioning of the Hokas would be welcome.
If I want to start in the Coastal and then switch to the Central after Barcelo or the like, where is a good point to switch if i want to walk (no busses or taxis)? Thank you kindly!After Barcelos it the Centeal Route as being called improves indeed.
18 kms after Barcelos you will encounter the best place to stay on the entire caminho Português , Casa da Fernanda . Not been at Fernanda's is haven't been on the caminho Português. Don't miss it
Sorry for silly question but how do you know how to follow along the Minho River?I will second walking from Caminha along the Ecopista through VN Cerveira along the Minho River to Valenca. Great, great walk.
Sorry for silly question but how do you know how to follow along the Minho River?
Thank you so much!Not a silly question at all. The Camino is sign-marked from Caminha, along the river, through Vila Nova de Cerviera, and into Valenca. This route is also well-documented in the Brierly guide. You simply follow the yellow arrows!
Vila do Conde. The trail from there to the Central Route is marked. I also download gps tracks to keep on track.If I want to start in the Coastal and then switch to the Central after Barcelo or the like, where is a good point to switch if i want to walk (no busses or taxis)? Thank you kindly!
If I want to start in the Coastal and then switch to the Central after Barcelo or the like, where is a good point to switch if i want to walk (no busses or taxis)? Thank you kindly!
Vila do Conde. The trail from there to the Central Route is marked. I also download gps tracks to keep on track.
You're right. I missed that part about wanting to connect around or after Barcelos. I agree that it's an enjoyable walk between Arcos, where I joined the Central route, and Barcelos.I was thinking of making the same reply but then I remembered that the route from Vila do Conde joins the Central almost 30 km before Barcelos. It's not a bad 30 km, though.
They will squish --- and that is exactly what you want. As they squish, they squeeze the water out of the shoe. Unless they are Goretex or similar, which keep the water in the shoe (which you absolutely don't want, and which is one of the major problems with water-proofed shoes). Non-water-proofed trail shoes will rapidly expel the water, permitting you to dry more quickly.I also worry that trailer runners get dangerously "squishy" when soaked.
I swore by my Merrill Moab high tops for both of my previous caminos. But now I’m planning to do the Portugues from Lisbon and I’m intrigued by your recommendation. On line, hoka one ones look like they are high tops, not trail runners, which I always thought were low. Am I missing something? I have time to try out and break in new shoes for my trip (don’t tell my Merrill’s).One other piece of advice is to consider trail runners or some other form of lighter footwear than boots for your Camino Portugues. This isn't a rough trail and there isn't a lot of rock climbing, so boots aren't essential and you might find that lighter footwear makes for easier walking.
I wore Merrell Moabs on my Caminos, but were I to do the Portugues again, I would probably wear Hoka One Ones. Whether you take the Coastal or the Central you will have plenty of occasion to walk along cobblestone roads during the Portuguese portion of the Camino and the extra cushioning of the Hokas would be welcome.
Hi Trecile, About how far is the walk from Vila do Conde to the Central route? How is it marked exactly and what is the road/path like? You mentioned Arcos, but I don't see that town on the map I am looking at. I am planning to walk this June and trying to decide where to join the Central. Thank you.Vila do Conde. The trail from there to the Central Route is marked. I also download gps tracks to keep on track.
I think there are different models of Hoka one ones. The ones I have are Bondi 6.I swore by my Merrill Moab high tops for both of my previous caminos. But now I’m planning to do the Portugues from Lisbon and I’m intrigued by your recommendation. On line, hoka one ones look like they are high tops, not trail runners, which I always thought were low. Am I missing something? I have time to try out and break in new shoes for my trip (don’t tell my Merrill’s).
From Vila do Conde it is about 9.7 km to Arcos and about 13.2 km to Rates, where I stayed the night. I had walked from Porto to Vila Chã, about 6.8 km before Vila do Conde so my second day was about 20 km.Hi Trecile, About how far is the walk from Vila do Conde to the Central route? How is it marked exactly and what is the road/path like? You mentioned Arcos, but I don't see that town on the map I am looking at. I am planning to walk this June and trying to decide where to join the Central. Thank you.
You are missing Rates (home of the oldest albergue in Portugal, they claim), Barcelos (site of the famous Barcelos rooster, one of the common symbols of Portugal and a miracle story like that you may remember from Santo Domingo, as well as the site of the largest weekly market in Portugal), Ponte de Lima (one of the oldest and most picturesque towns in Portugal), Valença (across the river from Tui on the border, with a nice little town within the fortress), as well as the delightful Casa da Fernanda albergue and some lovely walks through rural Portugal.After having completed the entire CF in 2019, I am looking at doing the CP (from Porto) in May 2021. Plan is to do coastal route out of Porto; then cut over to central route in Caminha to Tui; then in Pontevedra take the Spiritual route into Santiago. My question is what am I missing on the Central route from Vila do Conde to Tui?? Besides walking along the coast, are there any historical or significant areas to spend time? Yes, I have the Brierly and Wise Pilgrim books. This time I will be taking along a few novice walkers.
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