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Ah, but of course you only have 90 days. I would spend them all in SevilleI understand Seville is absolutely gorgeous.
just spent a week in Seville and area and its stunning, although its get's pretty hot in the summer. EnjoyThank you so much! This does sound correct to me! Might just have to throw in Morocco and Gibraltar but I understand Seville is absolutely gorgeous.
Lynda
I have a link to this on a previous post on another thread. Since there is some other useful information there I will direct you to my post: https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/one-way-ticket-to-barcelona.52620/#post-581203Any one know of an official site where this is explained in easy to understand English. Most particularly the single entry/multiple entry idea or cumulative vs continuous? Thanks in advance.
I think I understand your question. I've just been on the European Commission's website and I agree with you, it's hard to find an answer to your specific question. There are two things not to be confused about non-EU nationals travelling in and out of Schengen:Martyseville and all others
I don't want to argue with my friend but ...
@Lyndale , you don't have to worry about a day trip from Spain to Gibraltar at all. Spain and the UK have an issue about Gibraltar and as a result, Spain does not regard the border at La Linea as a normal international border and does not stamp passports as a rule. Just remember that the days spent in Schengen are the days counted from the date of the entry stamp to the date of the exit stamp as shown in your passport.
Yes, we've discussed it in previous threads, I remember someone who left on a cruise from Barcelona back to the US and failed to get a Schengen exit stamp and we've also talked about irregular/illegal overstay. I have no idea how often leisure or business travellers fail to get a Schengen exit stamp. For obvious reasons, the rules at the external borders are getting more strict or more strictly applied and there are plans for new transfrontier database systems to register entry and exit data but I don't know how far that has progressed.Sometimes there is no "date of the exit as shown in your passport"
Yes, we've discussed it in previous threads, I remember someone who left on a cruise from Barcelona back to the US and failed to get a Schengen exit stamp and we've also talked about irregular/illegal overstay. I have no idea how often leisure or business travellers fail to get a Schengen exit stamp. For obvious reasons, the rules at the external borders are getting more strict or more strictly applied and there are plans for new transfrontier database systems to register entry and exit data but I don't know how far that has progressed.
Below is a Schengen entry stamp and exit stamp. I'd love to have them in my passport but alas no chance. Perhaps the UK introduces something similar for us from next year.
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RickThe EU rules state that short-stay entry into the countries that are part of the Schengen zone shall allow a stay of "a duration of no more than 90 days in any 180-day period". To clarify that and help you verify it I've collected some links from the EU website.
I want to mention a few things first before getting to the links.
Here are links from the EU website.
- For information on the Schengen zone see
- To enter the Schengen area, among other limitations, you will need a passport that was issued within the previous 10 years and is valid for at least three months after the date of intended __departure__ from the zone.
- You may find that airlines may refuse to seat you unless those conditions are met.
- You must check the entry regulations for your nationality (passport.) You may perhaps be a national of one country (e.g. an African country) where a visa is required for entry into Schengen but also a legal resident of another country that Schengen allows in without a visa (e.g., a North American country.) You will not be allowed entry into the Schengen zone without a visa.
- A partial day inside the Schengen zone counts as a full day.
- There are countries that are not in the EU, such as Switzerland, that are in the Schengen zone. This means that if you visit Switzerland for a week before spending 90 days in France you will find on departure that you have overstayed your visit.
- There are countries in the EU, such as Ireland, that are not in the Schengen zone. This means that full days spent in those countries do not count against your 90 day limit.
- Under special conditions there are ways to stay longer in the Schengen zone without a long-stay visa but I'm not getting into that here.
I have not yet found any policy document that clarifies that the 90 days in any 180 day period need not be contiguous however the EU does provide a calculator and a user manual for it with examples that show that you can enter for multiple short stays as long as the total number of days inside the zone does not exceed 90 days within a 180 day period.
- The EU's website:
http://ec.europa.eu/
(That just allows redirection to pages in selected languages.)- The home page for English:
- Migration and Home Affairs:
- Schengen, Borders & Visa: http://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/borders-and-visas_en[/INDENT]
- Visa Policy:
http://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/borders-and-visas/visa-policy
(Find out what the visa policy is for people holding passports from different countries.)- The English language version of the EU's Schengen Borders Code:
- Their short-stay visa calculator tool:
http://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/content/visa-calculator_en
(Use dates in dd/mm/yy format)- The user manual for the tool is a 9 page PDF document at:
http://ec.europa.eu/assets/home/visa-calculator/short_stay_schengen_calculator_user_manual_en.pdf
(The introduction gives some useful material even if you do not use the tool. The manual shows examples.)
Thank you all. Very good news. Wish I did have 90 days or a lifetime. Will definitely get Morocco in and hope to figure a way for Gibraltar as I love monkeys and another stamp in my passport I assume. Thanks again to all.
Lynda
Ha! Ha! Wouldn't want to upset them. Did that in India and nearly lost an arm!They're apes not monkeys by the way, Barbary Apes. They get a bit miffed if you call them monkeys.
Ha! Ha! Wouldn't want to upset them. Did that in India and nearly lost an arm!
Thanks for the invitation Marty but foreign travel is not doable this year. Peg is thinking of another Camino though so 2019 may see us somewhere in Iberia.Rick and Peg....
Hey if not doing anything in April... come along and ride bike with us on the VDLP.
Cadiz > Seville. Then Seville > Gijon (beautiful Basque area).
Following N 630 route. Will be on and off of the VDLP route.
Recommend not bringing that huge tent you have. LOL. Teasing you.
interested?
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