Angie94
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As I set out on my "training hike" yesterday in a chilly 32 degree day accompanied by intermittent snow and sleet I began to ponder my circumstances. Then I began to reflect on the actual word 'circumstance' and later looked it up just to see what the dictionary had to say about this particular word....
"a condition, fact, or event accompanying, conditioning, or determining another"
While I can't say I am grateful or even appreciate the circumstances that have led me to this point in my life - a complete upheaval of my life including relocating, new job, and multiple losses and lots of anger, what I can say is I am grateful that they "determined another" set of circumstances which brought me to Ohio. I started taking some short walks, hoping to dispel some angry feelings as I stomped around the park. I then met a lady that I occasionally walk with that told me about a pilgrimage she did called the Camino de Santiago. It stirred something inside me, which led me to research it online, which led me to this forum. By reading the many wonderful posts and asking questions I actually began to believe I could do this. The hope and inspiration that fellow forum members offer here is priceless. I don't know what the future holds for me, as none of us really do, but I have committed to doing this walk (May 15th, 2016) and hopefully can regain my spiritual footing as I once had.
p.s. yesterday I finally hit 15 miles with my pack! I was so happy with my new accomplishment as I have been trying to get there for a while now. I was cold....but happy!! Buen Camino
@Angie94... you're going to have a blast!!hopefully I won't be "stomping my feet" as I move on down the road!
@amorfati1.... A W E S O M E... again!! Thank you for the great stuff. Caesardear Angie 94 - The word 'circumstance' triggered a quote I've re-read just yesterday, as it was quote inother book. and to me, they always provide amazing food for thought and contemplation, off and on camino/pilgrimages.
By Victor Frankl "Man's Search for Meaning" - transl Ilse Lasch, rev. and enl ed., Boston, 190, pp 65-66.
you probably know of it already or even have read it.
Here are a few bits that truly resonated:
"....they may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of human freedoms - to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.
And there were always choices to be made. Every day, every hour offered the opportunity to make a decision, a decision which determined whether you would or would not submit to those powers which threatened to rob you of your very self, your inner freedom; which determined whether or not you would become the playthings of circumstance, renouncing freedom and dignity to become molded into the form of the typical inmate. [...] ....Even though conditions such as lack of sleep, insufficient food and various mental stresses may suggest that the inmates were bound to react in certain ways, in the final analysis it becomes clear that the sort of person the prisoner became was the result of an inner decision, and not the result of camp influences alone. Fundamentally, therefore, any man, even under such circumstances, decide what shall become of him - mentally and spiritually. .... [...] ...bore witness to the fact that the last inner freedom can not be lost. ..."
(the book is about his time in a so called concentration camp).
any emotions, anger or other, don't simply get dispelled and evaporate into thin air.... one learns to face them first. and a pilgrimage can be a blessed time of facing those emotions within.
it literally can get one into motion (which is part of that word) and action.
sounds like you are on a good path - inwardly and outwardly! and May is approaching 'fast'...
very best wishes -- buen camino ... c.
ear Angie 94 - The word 'circumstance' triggered a quote I've re-read just yesterday, as it was quote in another book. and to me, they always provide amazing food for thought and contemplation, off and on camino/pilgrimages.
By Victor Frankl "Man's Search for Meaning" - transl Ilse Lasch, rev. and enl ed., Boston, 190, pp 65-66.
you probably know of it already or even have read it.
After another ten minutes, I was checked into a large, strange, comfortable!! hotel--Hotel Novo? and it was there that I had an encounter and some laughs with two young women, one who later became none other than my Camino daughter, the 17-year-old I walked into Santiago with....Open Your Heart Wider indeed!
Actually I haven't read it, but after reading your passage from it, I fully intend to! I read over what you wrote twice and I can't tell how much your post has helped me to just start to see things a bit differently...it always does my heart good to read of others experience and know they were triumphant in overcoming very difficult situations or 'circumstances'. It helps me to become a better, stronger person.
Wow! what an experience...can't say that doesn't make me feel a bit anxious but then everything worked out fine!I am going to have to trust other's experience that all will be well.
thanks for your awesome comments!!
Angie C.
Actually I haven't read it, but after reading your passage from it, I fully intend to! I read over what you wrote twice and I can't tell how much your post has helped me to just start to see things a bit differently...it always does my heart good to read of others experience and know they were triumphant in overcoming very difficult situations or 'circumstances'. It helps me to become a better, stronger person.
peace would be lovely at this point...It is the end of happiness
and the beginning of peace.
Maggie, I have a couple of questions...may I PM you?And sometimes you can find yourself in the service to others, as I did working with children in India. However I should add, it'not for everyone. I'm certain your Camino walk can be a life-changer for you. I am touched by your very gentile heart and do wish you Buen Camino.
Hi Angie,I don't know what the future holds for me, as none of us really do, but I have committed to doing this walk (May 15th, 2016) and hopefully can regain my spiritual footing as I once had.
p.s. yesterday I finally hit 15 miles with my pack! I was so happy with my new accomplishment as I have been trying to get there for a while now. I was cold....but happy!! Buen Camino
I will be in SJPP on May 17th to start on the 18th, so may see you there.Hi Mike, I will be leaving the States on the 15th, but as far as any fixed dates for SJPP and Santiago, none yet! Still working on transportation and such. Yes, I am happy with my training...it is surprising how many physical ailments have "disappeared" the longer I train. YAY!! Buen Camino
Ang
it is one of the reasons I want to try and be as physically prepared as possible - I would like to concentrate more on inside issues that need tending to, rekindle my relationship with God... and as you mentioned, enjoy the people and my surroundings. I don't want any blisters or bummed up feet taking up my time, attention, energy or focus!Angie... your training is great. With that kind of effort beforehand you minimize the soreness, blisters, and unknown of the way. This allows you also to concentrate on the great things you'll encounter (people, faith) rather than the fear. Bad ass.
so very well said....thank you so much for this. Having discovered the "therapy" of walking has been such a blessing to me. Sometimes I think it's the only thing that is pulling me through! - that and God.i would hazard a guess and dare to say that most likely you already ARE that 'better and stronger' person - just sometimes circumstance can appear and be so crushing of heart and spirit that one could easily be left with the feeling/impression that one IS the circumstance and thus feels diminished by it... and then the danger is one gets stuck in that belief. i always appreciated that saying (attributed to carl g jung) " if you feel you are going through hell ..... keep walking"
I have been looking for a skirt I can wear over leggings, or not, and maybe even feel like i am not on the trail at dinner !!by the way Linda, I got one of those skirts you told me about - can't wait to try it out! thanks so much...
Wow! What a wonderful wonderful inspiration you've shared.As I set out on my "training hike" yesterday in a chilly 32 degree day accompanied by intermittent snow and sleet I began to ponder my circumstances. Then I began to reflect on the actual word 'circumstance' and later looked it up just to see what the dictionary had to say about this particular word....
"a condition, fact, or event accompanying, conditioning, or determining another"
While I can't say I am grateful or even appreciate the circumstances that have led me to this point in my life - a complete upheaval of my life including relocating, new job, and multiple losses and lots of anger, what I can say is I am grateful that they "determined another" set of circumstances which brought me to Ohio. I started taking some short walks, hoping to dispel some angry feelings as I stomped around the park. I then met a lady that I occasionally walk with that told me about a pilgrimage she did called the Camino de Santiago. It stirred something inside me, which led me to research it online, which led me to this forum. By reading the many wonderful posts and asking questions I actually began to believe I could do this. The hope and inspiration that fellow forum members offer here is priceless. I don't know what the future holds for me, as none of us really do, but I have committed to doing this walk (May 15th, 2016) and hopefully can regain my spiritual footing as I once had.
p.s. yesterday I finally hit 15 miles with my pack! I was so happy with my new accomplishment as I have been trying to get there for a while now. I was cold....but happy!! Buen Camino
Angie,As I set out on my "training hike" yesterday in a chilly 32 degree day accompanied by intermittent snow and sleet I began to ponder my circumstances. Then I began to reflect on the actual word 'circumstance' and later looked it up just to see what the dictionary had to say about this particular word....
"a condition, fact, or event accompanying, conditioning, or determining another"
While I can't say I am grateful or even appreciate the circumstances that have led me to this point in my life - a complete upheaval of my life including relocating, new job, and multiple losses and lots of anger, what I can say is I am grateful that they "determined another" set of circumstances which brought me to Ohio. I started taking some short walks, hoping to dispel some angry feelings as I stomped around the park. I then met a lady that I occasionally walk with that told me about a pilgrimage she did called the Camino de Santiago. It stirred something inside me, which led me to research it online, which led me to this forum. By reading the many wonderful posts and asking questions I actually began to believe I could do this. The hope and inspiration that fellow forum members offer here is priceless. I don't know what the future holds for me, as none of us really do, but I have committed to doing this walk (May 15th, 2016) and hopefully can regain my spiritual footing as I once had.
p.s. yesterday I finally hit 15 miles with my pack! I was so happy with my new accomplishment as I have been trying to get there for a while now. I was cold....but happy!! Buen Camino
Thank you for reminding me of this Amorfati1. It's a long time since I read it and it crosses my path again on just the right day for me, thanks to your signpost. <3dear Angie 94 - The word 'circumstance' triggered a quote I've re-read just yesterday, as it was quote in another book. and to me, they always provide amazing food for thought and contemplation, off and on camino/pilgrimages.
By Victor Frankl "Man's Search for Meaning" - transl Ilse Lasch, rev. and enl ed., Boston, 190, pp 65-66.
you probably know of it already or even have read it.
Here are a few bits that truly resonated on the subject of circumstance:
"....they may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of human freedoms - to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.
And there were always choices to be made. Every day, every hour offered the opportunity to make a decision, a decision which determined whether you would or would not submit to those powers which threatened to rob you of your very self, your inner freedom; which determined whether or not you would become the playthings of circumstance, renouncing freedom and dignity to become molded into the form of the typical inmate. [...] ....Even though conditions such as lack of sleep, insufficient food and various mental stresses may suggest that the inmates were bound to react in certain ways, in the final analysis it becomes clear that the sort of person the prisoner became was the result of an inner decision, and not the result of camp influences alone. Fundamentally, therefore, any man, even under such circumstances, decide what shall become of him - mentally and spiritually. .... [...] ...bore witness to the fact that the last inner freedom can not be lost. ..."
(the book is about his time in a so called concentration camp).
any emotions, anger or other, don't simply get dispelled and evaporate into thin air.... one learns to face them first. and a pilgrimage can be a blessed time of facing those emotions within.
it literally can get one into motion (which is part of that word) and action.
sounds like you are on a good path - inwardly and outwardly! and May is approaching 'fast'...
very best wishes -- buen camino ... c.
Thank you William Garza...your words spoke to me.It was her..
That's mah story.
It was Angie..
Some of us it seems sometimes find a missing yearning...and it fits in with a bigger puzzle.
I cant speak for none but myself..but ime sure there is a common thread binding people to the road.
Mine?
Escape. I felt the withering that the leaves feel at winters touch.
Only to find on letting go?
I enjoyed, embraced! the freedom that severing a tie, bound to tightly..loosed at last.
The wimters leaves are not sad
They are free.
You may not see it
Until you know it.
That self same artisan..the wind, which shapes trees, also shapes the leaves for their leaving.
You never see them fall as if weighted down by gravity
Some...
Pirouette to the embrace
Some
Waltz to and fro in the gentle embrace at last.
We
Loosed from whichever bind
Walk the roads the same..
Some defy gravity and have full use of the breeze
Some must obey the laws amid the rings of age,and slowly drift...
Some fall into the River of Stars and wend slowly long the way...
But all in common... are falling toward Santiago.
Angie.
I hope you find what was
What is
And what shall be
The answers are somewhere,out there
There is Always an answer
There is always a Way.
Let go of the ties and dance on the winds!
All of the Pilgrims
Be blessed on your Way
Others experience are really the only thing shine some light at the end of the tunnel for me. I know God is there and is there for me...but tapping into the experience of others (as that seems to carry more weight with me at the present time) lets me know that I can weather the storm. There are those who are in much worse circumstances and their burdens are much greater than mine. I feel frustrated that I can't easily slip back into my normal mode of being - which is typically very grateful for all that I do have. I am truly hoping this pilgrimage will help bring back to my center, which I greatly miss. Thanks for your commentThe anger and bitterness was eating me alive, but by the grace of God and only his grace have I overcome.
Keep looking forward !Others experience are really the only thing shine some light at the end of the tunnel for me. I know God is there and is there for me...but tapping into the experience of others (as that seems to carry more weight with me at the present time) lets me know that I can weather the storm. There are those who are in much worse circumstances and their burdens are much greater than mine. I feel frustrated that I can't easily slip back into my normal mode of being - which is typically very grateful for all that I do have. I am truly hoping this pilgrimage will help bring back to my center, which I greatly miss. Thanks for your comment
dear Angie 94 - The word 'circumstance' triggered a quote I've re-read just yesterday, as it was quote in another book. and to me, they always provide amazing food for thought and contemplation, off and on camino/pilgrimages.
By Victor Frankl "Man's Search for Meaning" - transl Ilse Lasch, rev. and enl ed., Boston, 190, pp 65-66.
you probably know of it already or even have read it.
Actually I haven't read it, but after reading your passage from it, I fully intend to!
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