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Ok, I found this statement on 'France Diplomacy' re: obtaining the French vaccine pass: 'Since February 1st, 2022, in order to continue to be considered as fully vaccinated, persons aged eighteen or over wishing to enter the national territory must have received a booster dose no later than 9 months following the injection of the last required dose."It depends on the sort of train you take. If you take the slower regional train, you can travel without a pass vaccinal.
You also don't have to have had the booster within 4 months. If you have had a booster (at any time) you should be able to get the pass.
It also seems that not all the lists of pharmacies are up-to-date. If you see a pharmacy, you could go and ask. I expect, if nothing else, they will know where the nearest place you can get the pass is.
Is this just for US folk? I’m quite annoyed that the UK gov travel advice for France just says that we have to have had the second dosage 7 days before arrival, nothing about timing of the booster. I’m having my booster this coming Tuesday but I had my last vaccine 10 months ago. My flight is next month so I’ll have to see if I can even still enter France!Ok, I found this statement on 'France Diplomacy' re: obtaining the French vaccine pass: 'Since February 1st, 2022, in order to continue to be considered as fully vaccinated, persons aged eighteen or over wishing to enter the national territory must have received a booster dose no later than 9 months following the injection of the last required dose."
This answers the important question. Thanks for your help/information Molly.
I think that this is a bit of a mistranslation. If you have received your booster it doesn't matter when you received it.Our problem? Apparently we need a French vaccine pass to access transportation. One of the current requirements of that pass is that you be fully vaccinated with booster and THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED YOUR BOOSTER NO MORE THAN 4 MONTHS AFTER YOUR FINAL DOSE OF THE PRIMARY VACCINE.
Is this just for US folk? I’m quite annoyed that the UK gov travel advice for France just says that we have to have had the second dosage 7 days before arrival, nothing about timing of the booster. I’m having my booster this coming Tuesday but I had my last vaccine 10 months ago. My flight is next month so I’ll have to see if I can even still enter France!
Check out this website, 'France Diplomacy'. It seems to provide definitive information regarding entry into and travel within France from all origins: https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/c...g-to-france-your-covid-19-questions-answered/
You shouldn't have any trouble as long as you've had the booster. I believe the NHS certificate is accepted in France.Is this just for US folk? I’m quite annoyed that the UK gov travel advice for France just says that we have to have had the second dosage 7 days before arrival, nothing about timing of the booster. I’m having my booster this coming Tuesday but I had my last vaccine 10 months ago. My flight is next month so I’ll have to see if I can even still enter France!
This common misinterpretation is unfortunate. @Kathar1na has summarized the actual requirements in the 2 posts just above this one. However, if you want to read about how others have been similarly misled, there is an earlier thread on "Does the booster expire?"One of the current requirements of that pass is that you be fully vaccinated with booster and THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED YOUR BOOSTER NO MORE THAN 4 MONTHS AFTER YOUR FINAL DOSE OF THE PRIMARY VACCINE. In the United States one is not eligible to receive the booster until 6 months after your final dose.
Did you can an QR code with your vaccination? Because in Europe we use CovPass App. You simply scan the code (you get with the vaccination or with your certification in a pharmacy) and you have all the data in the app (saved on your phone only for EU data protection). Then your just click on the country you are currently in or you want to go to, the date of your travel and the little check mark tells you if it’s valid.Our travel begins on April 5th, Portland, Oregon to Dublin, April 8th Dublin to Lourdes, on to Biarritz and SJPdP via train.
Our problem? Apparently we need a French vaccine pass to access transportation. One of the current requirements of that pass is that you be fully vaccinated with booster and THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED YOUR BOOSTER NO MORE THAN 4 MONTHS AFTER YOUR FINAL DOSE OF THE PRIMARY VACCINE. In the United States one is not eligible to receive the booster until 6 months after your final dose.
Not only that, even if we were eligible for the pass, there is not a participating pharmacy near Lourdes to issue the pass.
Unless I am seriously misunderstanding the rules it looks like we are basically stuck in Lourdes without access to public transport.
I realize that this issue may not be exactly germane to this forum but I have to ask 'any ideas out there to solve this problem?' Thank you!
In the US our official certificate is a paper card - no QR code on it.Did you can an QR code with your vaccination? Because in Europe we use CovPass App. You simply scan the code (you get with the vaccination or with your certification in a pharmacy) and you have all the data in the app (saved on your phone only for EU data protection). Then your just click on the country you are currently in or you want to go to, the date of your travel and the little check mark tells you if it’s valid.
I see… I don’t know how it works in France then, I am sorry. In Germany you could get the international code in most pharmacies, they do accept foreign paperwork.In the US our official certificate is a paper card - no QR code on it.
Some states and cities along with some health networks have an app or website with a QR code, but not in the correct format to be scanned in the EU.
Is this just for US folk? I’m quite annoyed that the UK gov travel advice for France just says that we have to have had the second dosage 7 days before arrival, nothing about timing of the booster. I’m having my booster this coming Tuesday but I had my last vaccine 10 months ago. My flight is next month so I’ll have to see if I can even still enter France!
Just to be clear, I'm not talking about eligibility for travel TO France, I'm talking about eligibility for travel when you are IN France!! Here is what I found from a website titled 'France Diplomacy' :I'll keep it short. @trecile and @Molly Cassidy have already given the necessary clarification. You need to read the texts of the French and UK government carefully and not jump to conclusions that are wrong.
The following currently applies to travellers from the UK and the USA, both of which are 'orange' countries under the French classification system:
There are no time limits for your certificate or pass for your booster jab. The document for your booster jab is immediately valid. It has no expiration date. It does not matter how many months had passed between your booster jab and the jab that you initially got so that you were considered as fully vaccinated for the first time.I recommend again the Eurostar website. Click on "Travel to France" [from the UK]. Then read what it says under: "You’re considered fully vaccinated for travel purposes if:"
A couple of things are untrue in the above, but it's in a good way.Our travel begins on April 5th, Portland, Oregon to Dublin, April 8th Dublin to Lourdes, on to Biarritz and SJPdP via train.
Our problem? Apparently we need a French vaccine pass to access transportation. One of the current requirements of that pass is that you be fully vaccinated with booster and THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED YOUR BOOSTER NO MORE THAN 4 MONTHS AFTER YOUR FINAL DOSE OF THE PRIMARY VACCINE. In the United States one is not eligible to receive the booster until 6 months after your final dose.
Not only that, even if we were eligible for the pass, there is not a participating pharmacy near Lourdes to issue the pass.
Unless I am seriously misunderstanding the rules it looks like we are basically stuck in Lourdes without access to public transport.
I realize that this issue may not be exactly germane to this forum but I have to ask 'any ideas out there to solve this problem?' Thank you!
No -- it's correct, for internal French pass requirements, the time limit since the last jab is now 4 months.I think that this is a bit of a mistranslation. If you have received your booster it doesn't matter when you received it.
Hopefully @Kathar1na will be along to better explain the requirements.
What you quote says: wishing to enter the national territory. This is the rule for travellers TO France.Just to be clear, I'm not talking about eligibility for travel TO France, I'm talking about eligibility for travel when you are IN France!! Here is what I found from a website titled 'France Diplomacy' :
"Since February 1st, 2022, in order to continue to be considered as fully vaccinated, persons aged eighteen or over wishing to enter the national territory must have received a booster dose no later than 9 months following the injection of the last required dose.".
So re: accessing trains, buses, air travel inside of France; going to restaurants etc, it's not 'anything goes' as far as the timing of your booster shot.
... and then wait 14 days for the booster to become valid for pass purposes.So, in summary, for those who are not French, don't live in France, had been vaccinated at home to receive primary immunisation (2xPfizer, 2x Moderna, 1xJ&J), could not get a booster jab back home or explicitly avoided getting a booster jab back home, had their second jab (P, M) or their first and only jab (J&J) more than 4 months ago, find themselves in France while current rules still apply, want to travel within France without being barred from any train and want to eat in restaurants without being barred from any restaurants. You have two choices:
1. Tough luck.
2. You get your booster jab in the next available pharmacy.
As far as I know, foreign nationals without legal residence in France can get vaccinated. There are also some inaccuracies in this thread. For those who live in France: a booster is possible after 3 months and mandatory after 4 months for those who already have a vaccination pass due to their completed primary vaccination and who wish to continue having a valid pass.are foreigners allowed to receive the vaccine in France?
Ok, that was easy and as expected. The first one that I called, Pharmacie Leclercq, 13 Place du Marcadal, Lourdes, confirmed already that they convert American vaccination documents, and in fact other foreign vaccination documents, into the French/EU format. No problem, said the friendly and polite monsieur. I also asked how much they charge: €25.Also, for those who did get a booster jab while still back home: There are at least 11 pharmacies in Lourdes and when it's 9 am and they open today, Monday 28 February 2022, I will be calling them until one of them confirms that they convert foreign vaccination certificates, in particular CDC cards, into French/EU ones.
I think that the four months is what is required of people living in France for getting their booster. At the moment we have had no information about a fourth booster, which would be the case if it was only valid for four months.No -- it's correct, for internal French pass requirements, the time limit since the last jab is now 4 months.
For international travel within the EU there is a time limit of 270 days. https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_21_6837
Yes.@Kathar1na are foreigners allowed to receive the vaccine in France?
Sorry, but some of us do live in France and my comment was to distinguish between the fact that in France our booster is now 4 months after the second vaccination. If you are fully vaccinated, including your booster, you are free to come to FranceAs Kathar1na clearly states - if you are a French resident your booster must be administered no later than 4 months from date of qualifying vaccination. The booster is shown on the TousCovid pass after only 7 not 14.
I would imagine the majority of forum members are not French residents so it doesn’t apply and irrelevant to a discussion on this forum.
As do ISorry, but some of us do live in France and my comment was to distinguish between the fact that in France our booster is now 4 months after the second vaccination. If you are fully vaccinated, including your booster, you are free to come to France
so long as 270 days have not elapsed since your booster.
Much better. Don’t go to France. Fly to Lisbon and walk on gorgeous Camino Portuguese. Only need negative Covid test.Our travel begins on April 5th, Portland, Oregon to Dublin, April 8th Dublin to Lourdes, on to Biarritz and SJPdP via train.
Our problem? Apparently we need a French vaccine pass to access transportation. One of the current requirements of that pass is that you be fully vaccinated with booster and THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED YOUR BOOSTER NO MORE THAN 4 MONTHS AFTER YOUR FINAL DOSE OF THE PRIMARY VACCINE. In the United States one is not eligible to receive the booster until 6 months after your final dose.
Not only that, even if we were eligible for the pass, there is not a participating pharmacy near Lourdes to issue the pass.
Unless I am seriously misunderstanding the rules it looks like we are basically stuck in Lourdes without access to public transport.
I realize that this issue may not be exactly germane to this forum but I have to ask 'any ideas out there to solve this problem?' Thank you!
It's so annoying, they keep on changing things ...As far as I know, foreign nationals without legal residence in France can get vaccinated. There are also some inaccuracies in this thread. For those who live in France: a booster is possible after 3 months and mandatory after 4 months for those who already have a vaccination pass due to their completed primary vaccination and who wish to continue having a valid pass.
Ah OK then that has changed. Thanks.The delay between date of booster jab and full validity of vaccination pass (if previously expired) for those in France is 7 days.
No, except for long-distance travel if you have a serious motive for it.I didn't check it but there may be an option for unrestricted access if presenting negative tests while waiting for full validity.
These matters are clearly relevant to any pilgrim to be hiking, biking, or travelling in France in the current circumstances.I would imagine the majority of forum members are not French residents so it doesn’t apply and irrelevant to a discussion on this forum.
OP was worried that he might be in some situation of the sort ; not so, but if he had needed long-distance travel in France he would have been stuck as being jabbed more than 4 months ago but less than 270 days.So, again: Is there a single person reading this thread who is even in that situation - someone who wanted to but could not get a booster at home; had 2 initial first jabs less than 270 day ago and can therefore enter France from their home country which is orange
If you got your vaccinations at CVS they have a QR code on cvscareIn the US our official certificate is a paper card - no QR code on it.
Some states and cities along with some health networks have an app or website with a QR code, but not in the correct format to be scanned in the EU.
Yes, but it's not compatible with the EU vaccine pass system.If you got your vaccinations at CVS they have a QR code on cvscare
From memory:Thanks Kathar1na and others for your comments. Do 2 J&J shots qualify for compliance with French and Spanish current requirements?
Also, is there some hint that there is a relaxation of these documentary requirements in the offing?
Sure. We can lead a horse to water but we can't make it drink.would it be possible to create a "sticky" post that contains links to the most current official vaccination pass information for France and Spain?
Thanks!From memory:
Yes to your first question: The second J&J shot counts as a booster shot.
Yes to your second question: Various members of the French government have given such hints to French media but no fixed dates are known.
Just for the record, in South Africa, we cannot get our booster shots until at least SIX months after our last vaccination. We tried, but nowhere will do it.Also, the CDC website says that you can get a booster "at least 5 months after completing your primary Covid-19 vaccination series" and not 6 months as claimed in the first post.
Will you get your booster shot before your next Camino trip?Just for the record, in South Africa, we cannot get our booster shots until at least SIX months after our last vaccination. We tried, but nowhere will do it.
Yes, thank you for asking.Will you get your booster shot before your next Camino trip?
Great! Buen Camino!Yes, thank you for asking.
It also has to be 14 days before arrival.
It's OK. Just.
Not if they only relate to French residents. The rules are different for non-residents.These matters are clearly relevant to any pilgrim to be hiking, biking, or travelling in France in the current circumstances.
That is not true.Not if they only relate to French residents. The rules are different for non-residents.
Well, for what it's worth at this point, Kath, I did receive the booster on 10/30/2021. Had i tried to obtain a booster 5 months and 29 days after my last Pfizer shot I would have received the message 'not eligible'. So, as of last year, it was definitely 6 months minimum wait here in the U.S.I'd still appreciate it if @Charles Ross could say whether he's boostered or not by the end of March 2022 and the start of the trip to France. Because despite reading carefully through the posts, it is not clear to me.
Also, the CDC website says that you can get a booster "at least 5 months after completing your primary Covid-19 vaccination series" and not 6 months as claimed in the first post.
Thank you so much for coming back, @Charles Ross, and for this information! I really appreciate it. And perhaps you may not be surprised when I say: it confirms what I assumed to be the case right from the beginning of the thread: that you are already boostered.I did receive the booster on 10/30/2021.
Absolutely no need to apologise! It is a common misunderstanding, caused by unclear language on the original government websites and falsely spread by other websites or news media whose writers have misunderstood the original text. It is good that you brought this up; it may help other readers!I didn't intend for the original post to lead to this confusion and am sorry that it did!
On the UK gov website it does say click for requirements to enter France and it takes you to their website which states you can enter if you have had your booster and as you all know the NHS covid passport is accepted by the French Government , you simple show it at check in as well as arrival into France ..so whether you get the slow or fast train will have no bearing on you I think that's for the French Citizens who have not yet had their booster ....You shouldn't have any trouble as long as you've had the booster. I believe the NHS certificate is accepted in France.
That is not true. Measures in France are what they are, and it makes no difference whatsoever if you are French or not, resident in France or not.so whether you get the slow or fast train will have no bearing on you I think that's for the French Citizens who have not yet had their booster ....
This thread is a discussion around the timing of the booster as to it’s validity in France. Although you keep responding to people ‘that is not true’ - and even highlight it as if shouting - it is absolutely true that French residents must have their booster within 4 months of their original round of vaccinations. For anyone else it is 9 months. Kathar1ne has very accurately given the full position. Time for this thread to be closed methinks.That is not true. Measures in France are what they are, and it makes no difference whatsoever if you are French or not, resident in France or not.
I second that.Time for this thread to be closed methinks.
Yes, please.I second that.
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