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https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...verde-crossover-route-primitivo-to-norte.508/Linky link pretty please ;-) Buen Camino, SY
@Old Koot I can't but just scroll down the pages and look for the words 'english'
@Old Koot Casa Benigno has 30 rooms and the prices for pilgrims goes from 16€ single room to 30€ double room, and a good menu for 10€. In summer, usually there are available rooms but is better to take a reservation because some days there are numerous groups, especially the week end. Bó camiño
@NualaOC well done. Whatever you decide - enjoy it. It could be nice to have a few extra for moral support if you go that way. Weekend will be extra quiet along the way for locals. I did Sunday-Monday and saw no one on the Sunday. I hope the Germans are not too......."Germanic"....Thanks folks. We've arrived in Lugo and we'll decide later what to do. I'm not going to worry about the compostela issue. It's good to know that it probably won't be an problem, so that's good enough for now.
There has been a lot of talk about this variant, as quite a few German pilgrims are using the Raimund Joos book. There could be a pilgrim wave in Friol tomorrow!
@NualaOC well done. Whatever you decide - enjoy it. It could be nice to have a few extra for moral support if you go that way. Weekend will be extra quiet along the way for locals. I did Sunday-Monday and saw no one on the Sunday. I hope the Germans are not too......."Germanic"....as the green arrows don't match completely the book! The arrows take you a few more km along the river at start which is nice.
I've reached Espelette and the albergue is closed for "bedbug issues". Maybe they have run out??But great pilgrim rate in hotel for dinner, bed & breakfast. I've seen where there would have been plenty of mud - but none today!
Thanks Tim, we'll decide over drinks and tapas soon - oh, the stress of it all!
Enjoy Esplette - it's a pretty little place, isn't it? Or maybe I was unduly influenced by the free samples in the chocolate factory.
Hi, Nuala,
You could postpone your decision a bit more by walking tomorrow to Ferreira (which gets you to one of the two great albergues there run by Juanma), and then walk from Ferreira to Sobrado the next day. that would also give you the option of detouring to the lovely, absolutely lovely, Roman (painted) crypt under the churc at Santa Eulalia de Boveda.
There are ways to make the walk from Ferreira to intersect with the Friol "green route", and Juanma can give you the info. Let us know what you do -- I had hoped to go to Sobrado from Ferreira, but my group of 15 was insistent that they were not going to take a detour so I went along with the gang. Buen camino, Laurie
@NualaOC @peregrina2000
Just checking....would that get Nuala to Santa Eufaula on Saturday? Sadly,I diverted on the way to Friol and found it closed on Sunday.
@NualaOC I can't find my track on my phone but I can see two people on Wikiloc at 27k. I did divert to St Eulalia and I'm fairly sure I was under 30.Thanks Laurie, another option to consider! It's fiesta time in Lugo this weekend (San Froilan) so there's a great atmosphere in the city. We will probably postpone our decision until tomorrow morning. It may be based on how much sleep we get tonight and how many kms we're capable of walking.
There's no urgency about anything on this Camino, it is just perfect.
Good point Tim, it's closed on Sundays and Mondays.
Incidentally, there's much debate about the distance from Lugo to Friol. The German guide shows (I think) 32kms, but this may include a diversion to Santa Eulalia. The @xmsg one seems to show 24kms, or did I read that wrong? We could do 24kms tomorrow, but definitely not 32kms.
Thanks @petro!Well done! I loved the two "green arrow" days. Enjoy tomorrow - the monastery in Sobrado is really beautiful. Buen Camino!
Thanks Tim, we will of course stop at that memorial.Delighted you got there. And that you enjoyed the experience. Those two days in May and the past four days on Baztan my joint favourites.
Remember to stop at Monte do Gozo to see the monument to my confrere. It's on the little wall surrounding the small church with kiosk for drinks outside.
Oh that is another one on my wish list - to stay in Melide one time and have main meal in Ezequiel. I'm always passing too early in the day. I would have done same as you just did in May but I was meeting friends in Arzua.We're in Melide now after another off-piste walk over the hills from Sobrado. We realised that had we continued from Sobrado to Arzua, we'd arrive in Santiago a day too early.
We'll continue on the CF tomorrow - no more sudden changes of planThe guy who checked us into the albergue was completely baffled by our route over the past few days!
I am excited to share the news that José from Friol @xmsg has been out this week refreshing the green arrows on the crossover route from Lugo on the Primitivo, to Sobrado dos Monxes on the Norte - affectionately known as El Camino Verde. Horay! He has also updated his blog with new downloadable directions (links below).
Firstly, let me sell this alternative to you:
If you want to do it you'll need either the German guide to the Primitivo by Raimund Joos and Michael Kaspar, and/or the downloads of José. Don't expect help from the pilgrim office or the albergue in Lugo, who think this is all a bit unofficial. Who cares?
- Keeps you off the busyness of the Camino Frances as long as possible
- Quiet, peaceful, very rural - no merchandise, no crowds, no hassle
- Beautiful - old mills and bridges, peaceful river, nice views
- Lovely old farm and forest tracks, not much asphalt
- Feels quite adventurous (ie you have to make an effort, not just walk like a sheep in a flock)
- Bookable, friendly and cheap pension halfway at Friol, both stages are very do-able distances
- Friendly people, especially the lady in the Bar Suso in Mesón who treats crossover pilgrims like royalty
- Fellow pilgrims will be surprised and excited to find out you went 'off-piste'
- You get to stay with the monks of Sobrado who are supposed to live in silence, but chat for Spain
- Lush municipal swimming pools at Friol and Sobrado in summer, and good town facilities
- People who've done it say it was the highlight of their whole camino
I append below links to José's blog pages with downloads (please post your support as a comment on his blog as it helps him get official support) and also to other threads on this forum which discuss the Green Camino.
Detailed questions just ask our own José @xmsg
Also thanks to the people on this forum who gave me the impetus to try the route @timr @Castilian @petro
Just Do It!
View attachment 28475
José's blog pages with downloads in English, maps and Wikiloc routes
http://estradasecorredoiras.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Camiño de Santiago: Lugo-Friol
http://estradasecorredoiras.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Camiño de Santiago: Friol-Sobrado dos Monxes
Threads on the Forum
www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/lugo-to-sobrado-2016.40889/
www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/alternative-way-from-lugo-to-santiago.7380/
www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/lugo-to-sobrado-not-missing-santa-eulalia.24326/
www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/in-sobrado-dos-monxes.40795/
I am interested in this option, as I would like to avoid as much of CF as I can, but please clarify for me - where on the CF does this option bring you to?
I have understood it to be Arzua but I am confused, as Arzua is not far from Melide, only a 1/2 day walk?
So this alternative 'green' way would be an extra 2 days to avoid a half day of CF?
Ordinarily I would love the extra 2 days walk but only have 3 weeks holiday, including travelling to and from rural Australia.
I am interested in this option, as I would like to avoid as much of CF as I can, but please clarify for me - where on the CF does this option bring you to?
I have understood it to be Arzua but I am confused, as Arzua is not far from Melide, only a 1/2 day walk?
So this alternative 'green' way would be an extra 2 days to avoid a half day of CF?
Ordinarily I would love the extra 2 days walk but only have 3 weeks holiday, including travelling to and from rural Australia.
Thankyou NualaOC and time for clarifying some things. Good advice, I will see when I get thereHi Katie, the Camino Verde joins the Norte in Sobrado dos Monxes, and the Frances in Arzua.
As @timr said, this definitely won't add 2 extra days to your Camino. Lugo to Arzua is about 59kms on the Primitivo, which is 2 or 3 walking days for most people. If you take the Camino Verde at Lugo, it's 2 days to Sobrado and then just 22kms to Arzua.
If you opt for the Camino Verde and don't feel ready to join the CF at Arzua, this thread might be of interest. It shows an alternative route from Boimorto (11kms after Sobrado) to Salceda. (This map for this variation is shown in the Editorial Buen Camino guide to the Norte & Primitivo).
I'd suggest keeping an open mind about all of this this until you reach Lugo. Buen Camino and happy planning!
So, I'm starting to look at the routes and see that there are actually two routes from Lugo to Friol marked on this blog. They leave Lugo together, then in a place that may be Santa María Alta, one goes south (marked in red) and one goes north (marked in green.). I take it that the green one is the one forum members have walked?
Pension in Friol mostly empty on sept.8.Wonderful place. Followed green arrows,other information was unnecessary. Walk out of luego by river was magical and best part of the primitivo. Went to Lavacola and avoided all of the Francis. Well marked all the way to Santiago.Got it, with my humble apologies for being too soon old and too late smart.
Again, still being old and slow, when in Friol, to what does "the only pension which is Casa Benigno (982375028), with comfortable rooms and great value / price" translate in terms of cost in Euros. Also, any ideal as to capacity, as I'm sure perhaps too many will want to avoid for a day or two more the unwashed hordes scurrying through the Camino Francis, given this alternative.
Same questions for "Nearby are the cottages Casa de Martiño (982163700) and A Regoela (982183746)."
thx
They have single rooms,doubles,and rooms that hold as many as three. It seemed that the bathroom was in our double,do not know about the single. Very comfortable,and nearly empty early in September. One could easily follow the green arrows without any guidebook.I think the Benigno is EUR 15 for the cheapest room, that was just for me, so not sure if it would be more if the room was shared. It is quite big - I seem to remember she said 20 rooms. Don't know anything about the cottages.
I am excited to share the news that José from Friol @xmsg has been out this week refreshing the green arrows on the crossover route from Lugo on the Primitivo, to Sobrado dos Monxes on the Norte - affectionately known as El Camino Verde. Horay! He has also updated his blog with new downloadable directions (links below).
Firstly, let me sell this alternative to you:
If you want to do it you'll need either the German guide to the Primitivo by Raimund Joos and Michael Kaspar, and/or the downloads of José. Don't expect help from the pilgrim office or the albergue in Lugo, who think this is all a bit unofficial. Who cares?
- Keeps you off the busyness of the Camino Frances as long as possible
- Quiet, peaceful, very rural - no merchandise, no crowds, no hassle
- Beautiful - old mills and bridges, peaceful river, nice views
- Lovely old farm and forest tracks, not much asphalt
- Feels quite adventurous (ie you have to make an effort, not just walk like a sheep in a flock)
- Bookable, friendly and cheap pension halfway at Friol, both stages are very do-able distances
- Friendly people, especially the lady in the Bar Suso in O Mesón who treats crossover pilgrims like royalty
- Fellow pilgrims will be surprised and excited to find out you went 'off-piste'
- You get to stay with the monks of Sobrado who are supposed to live in silence, but chat for Spain
- Lush municipal swimming pools at Friol and Sobrado in summer, and good town facilities
- People who've done it say it was the highlight of their whole camino
I append below links to José's blog pages with downloads (please post your support as a comment on his blog as it helps him get official support) and also to other threads on this forum which discuss the Green Camino.
Detailed questions just ask our own José @xmsg
Also thanks to the people on this forum who gave me the impetus to try the route @timr @Castilian @petro
Just Do It!
View attachment 28475
José's blog pages with downloads in English, maps and Wikiloc routes
http://estradasecorredoiras.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Camiño de Santiago: Lugo-Friol
http://estradasecorredoiras.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Camiño de Santiago: Friol-Sobrado dos Monxes
Threads on the Forum
www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/lugo-to-sobrado-2016.40889/
www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/alternative-way-from-lugo-to-santiago.7380/
www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/lugo-to-sobrado-not-missing-santa-eulalia.24326/
www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/in-sobrado-dos-monxes.40795/
Be prepared for mud!Woooow .....more and more is coming up....adding this to my route in december!
@notion900 thank you for the information. I plan on changing my plans to include the suggested route.
Hi all, walked the Green Way in August again! It was fabulous. Regarding the alternative on the first day via Boveda, I walked it and have refreshed the arrows. The lamp post pictured above is where the two options divide, and the green arrows now point to both options, with a B for Boveda. I worked hard and used two whole cans of paint!I also refreshed the translated directions for it on José Manuel's blog. On the second day, I walked with JM, his son, daughter and daughter's boyfriend to Sobrado. He has now made two slightly different marked options where the route leaves the horse enclosure in case people come to the wrong gate. I can assure everyone that the routes are now all clearly marked with up to date directions in JM's blog. Also there is no problem with the boardwalks, in fact they have been repaired. JM thinks that the publicity may have been referring to another area near the Mera river, after all. I had the best two days, and the monks at Sobrado let me stay for free, for 'working on the camino'.
Link to resource
Thank you thank you thank you! Starting to get really excited about walking soon!! And so looking forward to this little bit of the Primitive. Very much looking forward to Sobrado. It was one of the most memorable evenings on all my Caminos. Gracias for your efforts!!Hi all, walked the Green Way in August again! It was fabulous. Regarding the alternative on the first day via Boveda, I walked it and have refreshed the arrows. The lamp post pictured above is where the two options divide, and the green arrows now point to both options, with a B for Boveda. I worked hard and used two whole cans of paint!I also refreshed the translated directions for it on José Manuel's blog. On the second day, I walked with JM, his son, daughter and daughter's boyfriend to Sobrado. He has now made two slightly different marked options where the route leaves the horse enclosure in case people come to the wrong gate. I can assure everyone that the routes are now all clearly marked with up to date directions in JM's blog. Also there is no problem with the boardwalks, in fact they have been repaired. JM thinks that the publicity may have been referring to another area near the Mera river, after all. I had the best two days, and the monks at Sobrado let me stay for free, for 'working on the camino'.
Link to resource
Ditto!! It's rather like having the most beautiful lullaby sung to you by the monks. The most peaceful way to be sent off to bed ever!Can I recommend everyone, (even 'without an ounce of religion' as they say in Ireland) to go to Vespers or Compline with the monks. The huge monastic church was only abandoned this century and they have a lovely small very modern chapel deep inside the enclosure. I rather think it doesn't have natural light but makes wonderful and imaginative use of lighting. Special.
I was planning to walk the Camino Primitivo and cross to Sobrado using the Camino Verde, from Lugo, then from Biomorto, to avoid Melide and rejoin the Camino Frances near Santiago Airport at Lavacolla. This would mean walking the rods and following the route described on signs in Biomorto. This means walking a road named the Estrada de Biomorto au Orxal (on my internet OSM Terrain Maps), joining the Road N634 (the Carretera de Curtis). Akm or so after joining the N634, we found accommodation at the Muino de Pena for a night. Next day we planned to walk into Santiago, continuing on the N634 to join the Camino Frances at theThank you thank you thank you! Starting to get really excited about walking soon!! And so looking forward to this little bit of the Primitive. Very much looking forward to Sobrado. It was one of the most memorable evenings on all my Caminos. Gracias for your efforts!!
I am excited to share the news that José from Friol @xmsg has been out this week refreshing the green arrows on the crossover route from Lugo on the Primitivo, to Sobrado dos Monxes on the Norte - affectionately known as El Camino Verde. Horay! He has also updated his blog with new downloadable directions (links below).
Firstly, let me sell this alternative to you:
If you want to do it you'll need either the German guide to the Primitivo by Raimund Joos and Michael Kaspar, and/or the downloads of José. Don't expect help from the pilgrim office or the albergue in Lugo, who think this is all a bit unofficial. Who cares?
- Keeps you off the busyness of the Camino Frances as long as possible
- Quiet, peaceful, very rural - no merchandise, no crowds, no hassle
- Beautiful - old mills and bridges, peaceful river, nice views
- Lovely old farm and forest tracks, not much asphalt
- Feels quite adventurous (ie you have to make an effort, not just walk like a sheep in a flock)
- Bookable, friendly and cheap pension halfway at Friol, both stages are very do-able distances
- Friendly people, especially the lady in the Bar Suso in O Mesón who treats crossover pilgrims like royalty
- Fellow pilgrims will be surprised and excited to find out you went 'off-piste'
- You get to stay with the monks of Sobrado who are supposed to live in silence, but chat for Spain
- Lush municipal swimming pools at Friol and Sobrado in summer, and good town facilities
- People who've done it say it was the highlight of their whole camino
I append below links to José's blog pages with downloads (please post your support as a comment on his blog as it helps him get official support) and also to other threads on this forum which discuss the Green Camino.
Detailed questions just ask our own José @xmsg
Also thanks to the people on this forum who gave me the impetus to try the route @timr @Castilian @petro
Just Do It!
View attachment 28475
José's blog pages with downloads in English, maps and Wikiloc routes
http://estradasecorredoiras.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Camiño de Santiago: Lugo-Friol
http://estradasecorredoiras.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Camiño de Santiago: Friol-Sobrado dos Monxes
Threads on the Forum
www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/lugo-to-sobrado-2016.40889/
www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/alternative-way-from-lugo-to-santiago.7380/
www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/lugo-to-sobrado-not-missing-santa-eulalia.24326/
www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/in-sobrado-dos-monxes.40795/
The Camino Verde is not a "recognized" route so under the rules of the PO they may decline to issue a Compostella even though you will have walked the requisite 100+km from Lugo. The route from Sobrado (Norte), including the "by-pass" route from Biomorto to Lavacolla is recognized but is to short to qualify.We had to cancel our plans to walk the Primitivo in September 2018. We were planning to walk to Camino Verde from Lugo to Sobrado, then side track from Biomorto across to join road N634 on the route published somewhere here (can't find the reference) Staying overnight on N634 at the Muino de Pena, to break the distance. Finally joining the Camino Frances near the roundabout at the Airport. Will this route be awarded a Compostela?
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