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hi!
for those who have not seen yet...
i want to share this, most of it was with aerial footage...
https://www.youtube.com/user/efrenglez1/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1
I quickly googled the word inimical and found : harmful, injurious, detrimental, deleterious, pernicious, damaging, hurtful, dangerous, destructive, ruinous, calamitousThanks, but no thanks! I consider drones inimical to the spirit of the Camino.
hi!
for those who have not seen yet...
i want to share this, most of it was with aerial footage...
https://www.youtube.com/user/efrenglez1/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1
Yes.You really do think that?
Sorry, VNwalking. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. I had no right to sound so incredulous.Yes.
I'm another old crank who hates the things. They're noisy and intrusive, and I wish those who want to play with them would do that someplace else, please - even if the footage they get is pretty.
There's a useful place for such things, but on the Camino as glorified toys...? No, thanks.
Thank you kirkie.Sorry, VNwalking. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. I had no right to sound so incredulous.
I quickly googled the word inimical and found : harmful, injurious, detrimental, deleterious, pernicious, damaging, hurtful, dangerous, destructive, ruinous, calamitous
You really do think that?
Yes, I do. I might have used the adjective invasive, but I think inimical covers a multitude of sins from distraction to destruction. It seems to me that the use of drones threatens to turn a personal experience and opportunity for sober reflection and/or meditation into a public spectacle, and public spectacles belong to the entertainment industry. There are also issues of privacy that need to be addressed. I can remonstrate with those who wish to co-opt me into a walk-on part in their home video, as happened to me earlier this summer on the approach to Santiago, but I have limited defence against a drone. Perhaps it's consequent on my age and way of life - I'm not a member of the Twitterati! - that I still value the Camino as a refuge from the further reaches of mindless consumerism and image-making. Like many other Caministas, I prefer to focus on the present moment without needing to record that moment for publication. If my objections do not impress you, you might nonetheless concede that there is a safety concern. Should you ever be unfortunate enough to need to be airlifted from the Camino, you would not want a drone anywhere in the vicinity. Thank you, anyway, for your query.
Double like, Paladina. Very well said.Yes, I do. I might have used the adjective invasive, but I think inimical covers a multitude of sins from distraction to destruction. It seems to me that the use of drones threatens to turn a personal experience and opportunity for sober reflection and/or meditation into a public spectacle, and public spectacles belong to the entertainment industry. There are also issues of privacy that need to be addressed. I can remonstrate with those who wish to co-opt me into a walk-on part in their home video, as happened to me earlier this summer on the approach to Santiago, but I have limited defence against a drone. Perhaps it's consequent on my age and way of life - I'm not a member of the Twitterati! - that I still value the Camino as a refuge from the further reaches of mindless consumerism and image-making. Like many other Caministas, I prefer to focus on the present moment without needing to record that moment for publication. If my objections do not impress you, you might nonetheless concede that there is a safety concern. Should you ever be unfortunate enough to need to be airlifted from the Camino, you would not want a drone anywhere in the vicinity. Thank you, anyway, for your query.
You are entitled to your opinion but most of the comment is of the favourable kind.Yes.
I'm another old crank who hates the things. They're noisy and intrusive, and I wish those who want to play with them would do that someplace else, please - even if the footage they get is pretty.
There's a useful place for such things, but on the Camino as glorified toys...? No, thanks.
hi!
for those who have not seen yet...
i want to share this, most of it was with aerial footage...
https://www.youtube.com/user/efrenglez1/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1
Agree completely with you on the re-live experience.A beautiful way to re-live the Camino experience! He had to carry a lot of heavy gear to record all this. I don't know a lot about drones, except that you hear a lot of buzzing noise when you are on the ground underneath one, but he has somehow eliminated this in the finished product and only records the noises of the Camino. His commentaries are very well done: a model for others.
The drones are actually quieter than most of the birds you would encounter on most of the Caminos in Spain. And it's the same as with dogs and their owners. The drone isn't guilty of anything it's the owner/pilot that fly it. If it is two meters around you that's certainly an intrusion I'd say.... but I guess only pilgrims that he was filming over could really tell us if it is heard above the ground noise, traffic etc. ...
I too recommended this posting under a different thread and had many people that spoke very highly of the videos, others also agreed with my recommendation but there were a few moaners expressing disappointment of the use of drones. These videos are, in my opinion, some of the best available on youtube covering the Camino Frances. The picture quality is excellent, they offer a real perspective of what life on the camino is like. They give a daily breakdown of costs. There are hints on equipment that is not required and can save you buying/carrying stuff that you won't need. The aerial views from the drone make up only a short part of the videos and don't appear at all on some days, but when they are shown the views are absolutely stunning. The chap who has put these videos together is an engaging Cuban refugee living in Miami but whose great grandfather came from Gallicia. He is a lovely bloke walking alone, making friends along the route.
If you have negative thoughts which are your own personal viewpoint, why bother adding them? Apart from spouting off, what are you adding to the conversation. Are other people interested in your negative thoughts?
I too recommended this posting under a different thread and had many people that spoke very highly of the videos, others also agreed with my recommendation but there were a few moaners expressing disappointment of the use of drones...
If you have negative thoughts which are your own personal viewpoint, why bother adding them? Apart from spouting off, what are you adding to the conversation. Are other people interested in your negative thoughts?
Yes, I do. I might have used the adjective invasive, but I think inimical covers a multitude of sins from distraction to destruction. It seems to me that the use of drones threatens to turn a personal experience and opportunity for sober reflection and/or meditation into a public spectacle, and public spectacles belong to the entertainment industry. There are also issues of privacy that need to be addressed. I can remonstrate with those who wish to co-opt me into a walk-on part in their home video, as happened to me earlier this summer on the approach to Santiago, but I have limited defence against a drone. Perhaps it's consequent on my age and way of life - I'm not a member of the Twitterati! - that I still value the Camino as a refuge from the further reaches of mindless consumerism and image-making. Like many other Caministas, I prefer to focus on the present moment without needing to record that moment for publication. If my objections do not impress you, you might nonetheless concede that there is a safety concern. Should you ever be unfortunate enough to need to be airlifted from the Camino, you would not want a drone anywhere in the vicinity. Thank you, anyway, for your query.
Sorry , it's not my cup of tea .hi!
for those who have not seen yet...
i want to share this, most of it was with aerial footage...
https://www.youtube.com/user/efrenglez1/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1
Especially the ones that guy plays as you enter Obradoiro in Santiago - dreadful racket!Thanks, but no thanks! I consider drones inimical to the spirit of the Camino.
Oh! THOSE kind of drones!Especially the ones that guy plays as you enter Obradoiro in Santiago - dreadful racket!
Paladina, excuse me, I actually replied to another poster instead of you, as I made a mistake about who the original poster was. My reply was basically saying sorry, I have no right to be incredulous, so I take the question back!Yes, I do. I might have used the adjective invasive, but I think inimical covers a multitude of sins from distraction to destruction. It seems to me that the use of drones threatens to turn a personal experience and opportunity for sober reflection and/or meditation into a public spectacle, and public spectacles belong to the entertainment industry. There are also issues of privacy that need to be addressed. I can remonstrate with those who wish to co-opt me into a walk-on part in their home video, as happened to me earlier this summer on the approach to Santiago, but I have limited defence against a drone. Perhaps it's consequent on my age and way of life - I'm not a member of the Twitterati! - that I still value the Camino as a refuge from the further reaches of mindless consumerism and image-making. Like many other Caministas, I prefer to focus on the present moment without needing to record that moment for publication. If my objections do not impress you, you might nonetheless concede that there is a safety concern. Should you ever be unfortunate enough to need to be airlifted from the Camino, you would not want a drone anywhere in the vicinity. Thank you, anyway, for your query.
Paladina, excuse me, I actually replied to another poster instead of you, as I made a mistake about who the original poster was. My reply was basically saying sorry, I have no right to be incredulous, so I take the question back!
The chap who made the videos responded to my comment on them saying that I thought they were excellent there was some negatvie comment on the use of drones on this forum:
"Thanks Gareth. You can't please everyone. I'm just glad I've mostly positive feedback. Drones are here to stay and people will eventually get use to it. No one in el Camino was mad at me for flying. On the contrary it was a good icebreaker and educational as they always had a ton of questions."
Yes, I do. I might have used the adjective invasive, but I think inimical covers a multitude of sins from distraction to destruction. It seems to me that the use of drones threatens to turn a personal experience and opportunity for sober reflection and/or meditation into a public spectacle, and public spectacles belong to the entertainment industry. There are also issues of privacy that need to be addressed. I can remonstrate with those who wish to co-opt me into a walk-on part in their home video, as happened to me earlier this summer on the approach to Santiago, but I have limited defence against a drone. Perhaps it's consequent on my age and way of life - I'm not a member of the Twitterati! - that I still value the Camino as a refuge from the further reaches of mindless consumerism and image-making. Like many other Caministas, I prefer to focus on the present moment without needing to record that moment for publication. If my objections do not impress you, you might nonetheless concede that there is a safety concern. Should you ever be unfortunate enough to need to be airlifted from the Camino, you would not want a drone anywhere in the vicinity. Thank you, anyway, for your query.
Strange I feel the same about somebody cycling the Camino invasive and inimical and downright dangerous to walkers !!
Apart from the Route de Napoleon across the Pyrenees, where I walked with the bike, I used the road on all the Caminos I travelled. That should make you happy, and maybe even contrite.
hi!
for those who have not seen yet...
i want to share this, most of it was with aerial footage...
https://www.youtube.com/user/efrenglez1/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1
Certainly Safer, Thank you for your consideration.
Glad you didn't spill the beans, I am only on the day to Sarria!Wow, that final video - brought tears to my eyes...amazing. And I'm no soft touch. What a finale!
hi!
for those who have not seen yet...
i want to share this, most of it was with aerial footage...
https://www.youtube.com/user/efrenglez1/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1
Im just like you, so happy & thankful of him sharing his wonderful adventure... as for my situation right now that cant afford yet, but really happy to see all about camino by those who share their photos/videos & even their innermost experiences...i am very thankful too!Thank you very much for the link to this vlog. I just finished and it was really delightful. What a happy guy! Buen Camino!
I will be walking the Camino Frances I. April/May next year with a friend. And have read many forum conversations/questions and answers. Googled as much as I could to learn as much as I can to prepare myself for the pilgrimage. The videos of his every day travel highlighting food, accommodation, weather and the interesting sights along the way have given me so many answers I have been looking for. The videos are very informative and I couldn't stop watching. The footage with the drone was amazing. Views from above of the fields, small towns and churches that we would not see while walking are beautiful and I thank him for helping me prepare for what I hope will be a memorable journey!hi!
for those who have not seen yet...
i want to share this, most of it was with aerial footage...
https://www.youtube.com/user/efrenglez1/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1
hope u subscribed as well on his youtube & put likesI thank him for helping me prepare for what I hope will be a memorable journey
Subcribed, 34 likes and a comment!hope u subscribed as well on his youtube & put likes
You should see mineSubcribed, 34 likes and a comment!
Well deserved.
PS I liked his beard!
hahahahahaha.... ahm honestly i like when he used to place flowers on his ear...LOLSubcribed, 34 likes and a comment!
Well deserved.
PS I liked his beard!
@HedaP do u place flower as well on your ears?
OMG! I just remembered his shoes instead of his face when i re-read mentioning his name..oh im just like you thankfulness is ours... all credit is for Efren!
I just watched all 7 featuring the footage only (lovely way to spend a damp Sunday afternoon) - really like the views and the angles.
Great contribution to video footage of the CF and on to Fisterra.
As a drone pilot myself, I can assure you that a drone, flown responsibly, and at an altitude of 250ft- 300ft- in the wide open plains available throughout the Camino Frances- WILL NOT provide any distraction, nor create an invasion of privacy to the amazing spiritual journey that is to be experienced by any pilgrim. From that height, most are unaware of its presence, no one is really distinguishable enough to be easily identified and there's no way that anyone, not even a crank, will be able to hear one. These devices help to capture an amazing perspective that is impossible to observe by those who solely rely on phones or point and shoot cameras. Plus they provide breathtaking views that help to inspire future pilgrims.Yes, I do. I might have used the adjective invasive, but I think inimical covers a multitude of sins from distraction to destruction. It seems to me that the use of drones threatens to turn a personal experience and opportunity for sober reflection and/or meditation into a public spectacle, and public spectacles belong to the entertainment industry. There are also issues of privacy that need to be addressed. I can remonstrate with those who wish to co-opt me into a walk-on part in their home video, as happened to me earlier this summer on the approach to Santiago, but I have limited defence against a drone. Perhaps it's consequent on my age and way of life - I'm not a member of the Twitterati! - that I still value the Camino as a refuge from the further reaches of mindless consumerism and image-making. Like many other Caministas, I prefer to focus on the present moment without needing to record that moment for publication. If my objections do not impress you, you might nonetheless concede that there is a safety concern. Should you ever be unfortunate enough to need to be airlifted from the Camino, you would not want a drone anywhere in the vicinity. Thank you, anyway, for your query.
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