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I'm in the middle of planning stages using Ender's lastest (April 2022) Spanish guide and various Spanish websites but am currently getting live information from an American gentleman walking right now via the Olvidado Facebook page of Rosa y Ray. He has been having difficulty due to closed albergues. Situation maybe temporary but this is what he has found so far:Here is a link to the Spanish (original) version of Ender’s Olvidado guide.
There are a few updates that haven’t made it into the English version — some new albergues, some new telephone numbers. And some changes after Igüeña. Guess the English-language translator has fallen asleep at the wheel.
He has been having difficulty due to closed albergues. Situation maybe temporary but this is what he has found so far:
This is good information for people who stick to albergues. We did not stay in any albergues between Bilbao and Aguilar. The situation after Aguilar is a bit better, I think, and this is where the mountain stages are all clustered. But the albergues in Cervera de Pisuerga and Guardo, both of which I stayed in, have also closed. Buiza is still closed because of Covid. I think the albergues in Puente Almuhey, Vegacervera, La Magdalena, Vegarienza, Fasgar and Igüeña are all open, but that will still leave you with a bunch of non-albergue nights even on the part from Aguilar.
p.s. Check out the Invierno for its vastly improved albergue situation!
How about the Norte with all the coastal alternatives?Back to the drawing board.
Our minds are thinking alike! I am in fact looking at my old Norte credenciales and logbooks as we write!How about the Norte with all the coastal alternatives?
LT, are you talking about albergue accommodations or all hotels, pensiones, etc? For Cervera de Pisuerga and Guard to be totally booked, there must have been something special going on, because Cervera has four hotels and Cervera has three. Not albergue prices, but the cost of a taxi for 77 kms must have been pretty hefty.
Please do! I'm curious to see what he has to say.The only albergue left in Cervera is the youth hosel, I believe. The albergue turístico closed right before covid.
So sorry to hear that the restaurant in Fasgar has closed. Rosi was in charge of the restaurant and the attached Casa Rural (Aires de Fasgar) and google says both have closed.
There is no store in Fasgar. And now, without the restaurant, not sure about food. The municipal centro social (also run by Rosi) used to have drinks but not much other than chips in a bag.
No question but that this kind of experience will dissuade lots of people from walking. I will get in touch with my BFF from the Camino Olvidado and see what he says.
I have had contact with two other pilgrims, one who walked on her own in April and managed o.k. and a Spanish guy who said that he is walking in July and asked if I wanted to join him so we could share a roomP.S. I am not much of a facebook user, but I think I found the person who reported all of this accommodation misery. https://www.facebook.com/groups/180859619237503/user/1298585049/
Not a good situation.
@LTfit I've just book a flight to Bilbao for the 11th July. Checking in on what you ended up doing?Hard to believe but ALL accommodations. Every single hotel in Cervera and surrounding area. No one (café or taxi owner) could explain what's going on.
Please do! I'm curious to see what he has to say.
I have had
contact with two other pilgrims, one who walked on her own in April and managed o.k. and a Spanish guy who said that he is walking in July and asked if I wanted to join him so we could share a room. Would have contemplated this possibility (he walked the Primitivo with a Camino friend of mine) but I have to go a month earlier.
@LTfit wondering did you go. I'm starting Camino Olvidado on Monday. I'm walking on *July 11th* evening.Hard to believe but ALL accommodations. Every single hotel in Cervera and surrounding area. No one (café or taxi owner) could explain what's going on.
Please do! I'm curious to see what he has to say.
I have had contact with two other pilgrims, one who walked on her own in April and managed o.k. and a Spanish guy who said that he is walking in July and asked if I wanted to join him so we could share a room. Would have contemplated this possibility (he walked the Primitivo with a Camino friend of mine) but I have to go a month earlier.
Hiya Aisha, Albergue de Peregrinos, de la Santa Cruz de Begona, Bilbao. Credential €2. Donation.( The only one open in Bilbao).@LTfit wondering did you go. I'm starting Camino Olvidado on Monday. I'm walking on *July 11th* evening.
*Anyone else here walking Cam Olv?*
Have an excel sheet made with accomodation and will update.. and try to share if I can figure out how not to send the original.. but if helpful to anyone my plan is airport to Bilbao (need to buy shoes)
.. then train to Balmaseda...12km to Nava du ordunte alberge and stay with Aldofo.
... then 27km to villasante and donativo albergue with Isabel.
... Then 26km ish and stay in Santillices in hostal rural, where I got the info from the previous albergue.
...then onto arjia and fingers crossed for camping. Food next day is always an issue as nothing open in the morning so need to remember to buy some somewhere.
Considering bringing a tent.. just for emergency sleeps. I never even bring a sleeping bag so this.
Hi @omicko,Hiya Aisha, Albergue de Peregrinos, de la Santa Cruz de Begona, Bilbao. Credential €2. Donation.( The only one open in Bilbao).
Balmaseda Albergue €12.
Nava de Ordunte. Stay at Adolfo’s Albergue Las Estrellas. Great guy. One new Bar
Santalices. Hostal closed. DEFINITELY BRING A LIGHTWEIGHT TENT. Sleep 100 Metres past the last bar in a barbecue area next to the river. Quiet and safe.
Villasante. House of Isabel, donation.
Espinosa De Los Monteros. Albergue Juvenil. €12 Full Board. All this information is verified and up-to-date. Also check out my guide Camino Olvidado May 2018 which at the time was personally verified and not just copied. A lot of this is still useful.
Book accommodation where you can.
Bring a sleeping bag.
Cheers, Mick.
@omicko or anyone..Hi @omicko,
Wow, this is a welcome message
I had forgotten about your guide. Must search for it now asap, as it was truly excellent last time.
I'm going to start in Balmaseda, and have Nava and Villasante booked for tomorrow and Tuesday. The 3rd night already proving difficult, as I await a response from the new place in Santillices. I've my fingers crossed for Los Acos allowing me to stay.
Did you complete again this year?
I'm 5ft and so a base weight in backpack tends to be quiet low. My bare tent, pegs, poles is 1.5kg.
Any ideas on the warmth required in a sleeping bag for July. I have forgotten what warm weather feels like.
Off to search your threads again.
Thank you,
Aisling
Click Camino Olvidado and you will see all the subsections with the dates on the right hand side.Go down to January 23, 2019 and you will see on the left Camino Olvidado Guide from Bilbao - May 2018. Click to open.@omicko or anyone..
I just rang a search for CAMINO OLVIDADO FROM BILBOA MAY 2018
Couldn't find the actual guide. There is 1 resource attached but from 2016. Would you happen to know where it is? Thank you.
I'm in the middle of planning stages using Ender's lastest (April 2022) Spanish guide and various Spanish websites but am currently getting live information from an American gentleman walking right now via the Olvidado Facebook page of Rosa y Ray. He has been having difficulty due to closed albergues. Situation maybe temporary but this is what he has found so far:
1) albergue in Güeños is only for groups so he had to pay €58 for a hotel.
2) albergue in Espinosa de los Monteros is 1.8 km out of town.
3) albergue in Santelices (old train station) is closed. Per comment Ender this is due to person issue and no idea when will reopen.
4) Camping Playa de Arija no longer accepts pilgrims. Pilgrim was allowed to stay because son of owner told him on the phone that it was open. When pilgrim arrived the owner told him that he had problems with pilgrims and has changed policy.
That's it for now. I'll add information when and if relevant. He is now on day 6 or 7 and has seen no other pilgrims. Luckily he speaks Spanish.
Message is to call in advance and plan carefully.
Due to all this I'm questioning my walking this route starting end of June.
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...mino-olvidado-from-bilbao-may-2018-pdf.49193/It is so weird.. I can find the thread where you posted it. The attachment flashes open for a second and then disappears. I'm going to start searching laptop and hoping I have emailed it somewhere. I realise now that this was the document that made my journal last time so easy.
End of an era, I can’t imagine Fasgar without Rosy.
Maybe it’s a spelling problem. It’s Bilbao and not Bilboa. Trivial difference, but crucial for the search function.I just rang a search for CAMINO OLVIDADO FROM BILBOA MAY 2018
Maybe it’s a spelling problem. It’s Bilbao and not Bilboa. Trivial difference, but crucial for the search function.
Oh.. I didn't realise Rosy was not involved. I met her 'during my eventful' time passing through Fashgar in 2019End of an era, I can’t imagine Fasgar without Rosy.
Explain to me your " eventful time " .Oh.. I didn't realise Rosy was not involved. I met her 'during my eventful' time passing through Fashgar in 2019
End of an era, I can’t imagine Fasgar without Rosy.
Tell me about your eventful timeOh.. I didn't realise Rosy was not involved. I met her 'during my eventful' time passing through Fashgar in 2019
@AshIreGal,I'm starting Camino Olvidado on Monday. I'm walking on *July 11th* evening.
The new hospitalera is Noelia.Oh.. I didn't realise Rosy was not involved. I met her 'during my eventful' time passing through Fashgar in 2019
For many years now I always bring a ultra light tent about a kilogram.Hi @omicko,
Wow, this is a welcome message
I had forgotten about your guide. Must search for it now asap, as it was truly excellent last time.
I'm going to start in Balmaseda, and have Nava and Villasante booked for tomorrow and Tuesday. The 3rd night already proving difficult, as I await a response from the new place in Santillices. I've my fingers crossed for Los Acos allowing me to stay.
Did you complete again this year?
I'm 5ft and so a base weight in backpack tends to be quiet low. My bare tent, pegs, poles is 1.5kg.
Any ideas on the warmth required in a sleeping bag for July. I have forgotten what warm weather feels like.
Off to search your threads again.
Thank you,
Aisling
I think anytime you are walking off the mainstream routes, this should be standard behaviour. On Frances, Norte, VdlP, etc, tents are for people who need tents (for whatever reason). On anything else, especially the routes that are not often walked, you should carry one.For many years now I always bring a ultra light tent about a kilogram.
Hey Laurie, I stayed there. Sonia is fantastic. On the Camino Facebook group, a girl who mentioned she didn't know it was open, has just had her hands slappedNews from Ender that the albergue in Puente Almuhey is open again.
Sonia is the hospitalera, telephone 34 606 24 04 80
Hi, AshireGal — did you take the long route via Caminayo? It makes for a longer day into Puente Almuhey, but it is gorgeous.Hey Laurie, I stayed there. Sonia is fantastic. On the Camino Facebook group, a girl who mentioned she didn't know it was open, has just had her hands slapped. I have photos and 10 beds / 3 showers / very clean / nice stamp / the info is now on the window.
I'm now trying to find Enders wikiloc route from Bonar to Vege. I think you did Bonar to La Robla.
Hey Laurie, I stayed there. Sonia is fantastic. On the Camino Facebook group, a girl who mentioned she didn't know it was open, has just had her hands slapped. I have photos and 10 beds / 3 showers / very clean / nice stamp / the info is now on the window. So just arrive and ring! Supermarket in town is great. Also met a lady who worked at restoration in terms of the local churches etc. I have a huge issue with spelling and writing so couldn't do a daily report, however, I am following Doug Johnson tracks on viewranger or outdoor active. I somehow made it through the way at Nava (that is no longer a way).. but do not want to publicize as I am 5ft, and height was a requirement in parts and my legs were ripped apart . I have videos, and I can WhatsApp, but wouldn't post publically for fear someone would think it was a way..you need to be very short, skin of rhino, good GPS etc. So downloaded tracks may suggest there is a way, but there isn't really anymore. The orange Camino app route, hugs the route alot and the walk from Puente to Bonar was much nicer following Doug Johnson route. Laurie.. I'm now trying to find Enders wikiloc route from Bonar to Vege. I think you did Bonar to La Robla. Aldofo says hello.
I've been doing a Camino you folks haven't heard of!Hi, AshireGal — did you take the long route via Caminayo? It makes for a longer day into Puente Almuhey, but it is gorgeous.
On my first Olvidado, I went via La Robla because the alternative had not been marked. But now that it’s marked, I can’t imagine ever doing that again. It is truly gorgeous! Though those last few asphalt kms into Vegacervera are very much a slog.
Here’s a link to Ender’s wikiloc tracks for the stage.
ETAPA 13 B: BOÑAR - VEGACERVERA CAMINO OLVIDADO
ETAPA 13 B: BOÑAR - VEGACERVERA CAMINO OLVIDADO Hiking trail in Boñar, Castilla y León (España). Download its GPS track and follow the itinerary on a map. ETAPA 13 B_ BOÑAR - VEGACERVERAwww.wikiloc.com
Beware the fake arrow, info here.
Would love to hear how it goes if you take the steep descent to the beech forest on the way to Ciñera — that’s on the day out of Vegacervera, which is another one of those totally magical days.
Buen camino, AshireGal!!!!
Thank you for reminder about the route out of Vega. I didn't go by the road, but by the off route section, following Enders wikiloc route. The first part was fab, and a bunch of dogs will give you a fright as they are very angry sounding. You will hear the sheep with bells, and just keep going. (A pilgrim behind me, turned back as they were aggressive and on the path .. and this pilgrim took the road). Eventually the route gets very rough with nettles and thorns, but I would still choose it again over the road. You need the GPS track as there are parts where you will be unsure otherwise. Eventually you hop the barrier and go into the next village by road. I went back into a field to avoid dogs by the village and came out again after 100 metres while they were distracted by a passing cyclist. The path to the gorge was fabulous... And today I didn't take the long route to the mine building, but I really like that last time. Followed Enders route to Pola from Cinera. Staying in the Camping in La Pola De Gordon. Highly recommend and just added a post with info onto the Wise pilgrim app.Hi, AshireGal — did you take the long route via Caminayo? It makes for a longer day into Puente Almuhey, but it is gorgeous.
On my first Olvidado, I went via La Robla because the alternative had not been marked. But now that it’s marked, I can’t imagine ever doing that again. It is truly gorgeous! Though those last few asphalt kms into Vegacervera are very much a slog.
Here’s a link to Ender’s wikiloc tracks for the stage.
ETAPA 13 B: BOÑAR - VEGACERVERA CAMINO OLVIDADO
ETAPA 13 B: BOÑAR - VEGACERVERA CAMINO OLVIDADO Hiking trail in Boñar, Castilla y León (España). Download its GPS track and follow the itinerary on a map. ETAPA 13 B_ BOÑAR - VEGACERVERAwww.wikiloc.com
Beware the fake arrow, info here.
Would love to hear how it goes if you take the steep descent to the beech forest on the way to Ciñera — that’s on the day out of Vegacervera, which is another one of those totally magical days.
Buen camino, AshireGal!!!!
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