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That surprises me, because every shoe or boot I have tried on, to consider for the camino, has had a removable inner sole. Occasionally it is very lightly glued in, but always the salesperson has been willing to remove it. I currently have Salomon Ultra GTX boots and shoes that I use with custom orthotics.The shoes I'm looking at, you can't take the existing insole out to make room.
That surprises me, because every shoe or boot I have tried on, to consider for the camino, has had a removable inner sole. Occasionally it is very lightly glued in, but always the salesperson has been willing to remove it. I currently have Salomon Ultra GTX boots and shoes that I use with custom orthotics.
If ever you need orthotics, I think the camino would be the place!
I swear by Salomons and always remove the insoles to test them! You should definitely be able to do so.Actually, the shoes I was really looking hard at were the Salomon Ultra 2 GTX's. I looked at their insoles and it didn't look like they could be removed. Maybe looks were deceiving. The person who "helped" me was busy going back and forth with others, so they didn't offer any advice.
I'l have to go back (perhaps to another store) and check that out closer. Thanks for your reply.
I'm now on my second pair of Salomon Ultra 2 GTX, and unless they changed things from this spring, the insoles can be removed. I rwmove them and put in my custom orthotics.Actually, the shoes I was really looking hard at were the Salomon Ultra 2 GTX's. I looked at their insoles and it didn't look like they could be removed.
I'm now on my second pair of Salomon Ultra 2 GTX, and unless they changed things from this spring, the insoles can be removed. I rwmove them and put in my custom orthotics.
They are very expensive, and I suspect they are over-prescribed by podiatrists (who sell them). If your feet are happy, be happy!I never knew so many people used custom orthodics. I don't, but am I missing something here? Do all of you have special foot problems or can everyone benefit from being fitted with a pair?
I thought my feet were fine and that the pain I felt in the ball of my feet was normal. Could not understand how others walked the C. so carefree. Turns out I have flat feet.I never knew so many people used custom orthodics. I don't, but am I missing something here? Do all of you have special foot problems or can everyone benefit from being fitted with a pair?
To,go to a place that makes them, I need to being a prescription from my GP. On the other hand I can go directly to my podiatrist, but the poor woman has yet to make more than 100$ for 5 visits and she doesn't even sell me my soft orthotics, she gives me a prescription and I order them online. Those are 80$, the fancy, hard, molded ones were 300$ or so, but reimbursed at 80% by my private insurance.They are very expensive, and I suspect they are over-prescribed by podiatrists (who sell them). If your feet are happy, be happy!
I also use the SOLE Ed Vestures (approx US$50 at REI) in all my hiking footwear, and find they make a big difference for my feet. When sizing them, pay more attention to the fit at your arch than to the size range listed on the label. A knowledgeable sales person will know how to choose. They are heat moldable, like ski boot inserts--just heat them at low temperature in your oven until a little dot changes color, insert them in your shoe or boot and walk around on them until they cool down. Be sure to remove the manufacturer's standard insole before inserting any orthodic. Leaving both in will surely affect the overall fit and probably the effectiveness of the orthodic as well.Never had foot problems until I had them. Plantar fasciitis about 5 years ago. Mine was caused by not wearing shoes all the time, walking on a hard surface, age, and over use or abuse. The podiatrist made me some hard plastic orthodic inserts to put under the insole, but they were uncomfortable. I found some arch support insoles SOLE Ed Vestures and have been using them since. They are thick and will cause some heal slippage in shoes that do not have a deep heel pocket. They work great in my hiking boots. SOLE also has a thin version that I use in my running shoes and they work pretty well. I am thinking about getting the thin version with a metatarsal pad for the new altras trail runners that I ordered. I hope they do not cause heel slipage. The ligaments that keep your feet from spreading are loosening up on me with age. Look at your orthos and they might have a concave hump toward the forefoot to support the metatarsals and keep them in their proper alignment. I think your big toe and little toes are supposed to strike the surface at the same time. I use a yoga ball to exercise and stretch my plantar fascia.
Buena Suerte!
Apart from orthoptics, what else have you done? Are you doing daily excercises? Have you tried being taped, preferably at a physioterapist? Is the pain insufferable or merely bearable yet uncomfortable ?
You have had treatment, but PF is an ongoing project for quite some time and probably aggravated by your preparation for partaking in a Camano walk !
Go to the tube, seek ´taping plantar fascitis´ for a start, that procedure may eleviate your day to day pains, then get a rubber ball, to massage from side to side of the foot, stand on it with mild pressure while you support yourself on a table etc, without stressing the pain too much, and do stretches on steps, all of this to be found on the net.
Don´t give up...
I have had flat arches all my life and sunken traverse arches at the front of my feet.
I had cancer in ´09 and started doing daily walks to and from work in ´12 after slimming down 30 kilo.
I have today, at 62 yrs, the nicest wet footprint of a beutiful arched foot, that I never had before, walked 2500 km this way before my first camino in ´14, and am now on my 7500 kms after my second one.
I carry a 10 kg sack + 2 liter of water...have tried now and worn out three different boots....
I am now at my third brand of orthotics before satisfied at Bauernfeind, will keep these.
Most time when I have a touch of PF, I bind myself up using a combo of Kinesio Tape first and then sports tape on top if I want more effect. Doing regular excersizes....
I like my feet today, but it has taking some doing to get there...
Nunquam Redono - don´t ever f***ing quit ( my translation)
I'm a bit frustrated. Going on my first camino in a month and half and I'm stressing about my footwear. Preface this with - I'm only starting at Astorga, and if we don't have any issue, will have time to get to Finisterre.
I have flat feet - have had problems since a teenager. Probably 20 years ago, I had custom orthotics and not sure whatever happened to them...likely wore them out. I've gone 20 years approx with no orthotics and have survived - just learned to live without them. Earlier this spring, before I was even thinking about doing the camino, I started suffering from Planter Fasciitus in my left foot pretty bad. I started getting treatment for that and bought some Dr. Scholl's inserts for my shoes. My feet started to get better, and during this time, we also committed to going to Spain in the fall.
At that point, I ramped up my effort to ensure my feet were healthy, as well as significantly increased my hiking/walking frequency and distances.
I have Salomon Quest 4D GTX hiking boots, and I've used them for a few years - have been very happy with them. Most recently, a couple of weeks ago, I used my Dr. Scholls inserts with them and did a 23 km hike and didn't have any issues.
I figured I'd want something lighter for the camino, so I've been trying on a number of different trail shoes the past week. This time, though, I now have my custom orthotics which I like and wear in my runners at the gym etc, but I'm struggling to find a shoe that fits. When I put my orthotics in, the shoe can feel great, but when I walk, the heel slides - the depth of the orthotic causes my heel to be raised and doesn't fit into the pocket of the heel of the shoe. The shoes I'm looking at, you can't take the existing insole out to make room...so the orthotic is just sitting on top of the existing insole.
So, now I think I've decided to not use my new custom orhotics on the camino...and just stick with the Dr. Scholl inserts, as they've worked on single day hikes....I just get worried that maybe I'm setting myself up for feet problems by not using what I paid lots of $$$ for. If I use the inserts I've been using, I might be able to find a shoe that fits better and weighs lighter than my existing boot. Or, when all is said and done, I might just use the boots I have and deal with the added weight.
I'm going to do an approx. 25 km hike tomorrow in our city (some trail, some pavement, and one hill in particular that has about 150 m elevation gain). I'm going to use my Dr Scholls inserts and existing boots and we'll see how it goes. If it works, I guess there is no sense fighting it.
I'm not sure why I'm posting this....perhaps my own version of therapy...ha ha. Send me the invoice.
Good, you´ve done a lot. When I returned in May, I got scanned by my physio and he showed me pictures where my left foot had an enlarged area of the plantaris attachment the thickness of my thumb (!) whereas the right foot had at the same place the thickness of my little finger..Stivandrer, I've suffered from having very flat feet for probably 35 years or so, but in early March, I started suffering from PF. That's when I went for treatment. It has taken a while, but my foot is in good shape now...but I do stretches every day (feet and calves in particular), I have it taped on occasion. I use a lacrosse ball daily to massage the bottom of my feet. I'm seriously thinking about taking it with me in my backpack - but I might resort to a lighter ball. As of right now, my feet are in good condition - I'm all about making sure they stay that way until I head over to Spain on Sept. 21st. Cheers.
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