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thankn you very much. i will look into flights to and from Madrid.Personally, I would fly into Madrid and take the bus to SJPP FROM THE AIRPORT.
I would make reservations through Puente la Reina.
I would take the first day to Orisson and day 2 to Roncesvalles.
If Orisson is full I would book two nights in SJPP and use the shuttle.
I would make all those reservations the minute you know what day you arrive.
I would either fly home from Santiago or take a bus or train back to Madrid.
Hi Trecile, thank you so much for this great information. I just checked following the previous lead flights to madrid and it seem it is a very good option. Since you have done already the booking you seem you are way ahead of me in the planning I would love to hear more if u have suggestions. hope we can meet along the way... I am really excited now.Hi Olga, I will be walking about the same time as you, but I'm travelling from the west coast.
Here is my plan:
Fly into Madrid, arrive in the evening, and spend two nights in Madrid to recover from the long flight and jet lag. I plan to bring a suitcase for my pre and post Camino days, and I will either stay with the friend of a friend or find a hotel to stay at where I can leave my suitcase while on the Camino.
Then take the train to Pamplona. I have made a reservation at Pension Corazon Puro, outside of Pamplona. The owner offers a service which includes pick up at the airport, train or bus station, then they will drive you to SJPDP in the morning. This way I don't have to try to coordinate train and bus schedules, plus I'll get the benefit of their knowledge of the Camino.
I also have made a reservation at Refuge Orisson to break up the first part of the walk over the Pyrenees.
I'm estimating that it will take me 5 weeks to reach Santiago. I will be in Spain for just about 7 weeks, so I have enough time to travel to and from Madrid, take a rest day here and there, continue my walk to Finesterre, etc.
I was lucky enough to have enough frequent flyer points to pay for my tickets, so I booked as soon as I decided I was going, because I didn't want to wait until the award tickets were all gone! In order to decide how long I wanted to be in Spain I added up my estimated days of walking, travel days, recovery from jet lag days, then added in a few more days as a cushion.Hi Trecile, thank you so much for this great information. I just checked following the previous lead flights to madrid and it seem it is a very good option. Since you have done already the booking you seem you are way ahead of me in the planning I would love to hear more if u have suggestions. hope we can meet along the way... I am really excited now.
Hi Olga, I will be walking about the same time as you, but I'm travelling from the west coast.
Here is my plan:
Fly into Madrid, arrive in the evening, and spend two nights in Madrid to recover from the long flight and jet lag. I plan to bring a suitcase for my pre and post Camino days, and I will either stay with the friend of a friend or find a hotel to stay at where I can leave my suitcase while on the Camino.
Then take the train to Pamplona. I have made a reservation at Pension Corazon Puro, outside of Pamplona. The owner offers a service which includes pick up at the airport, train or bus station, then they will drive you to SJPDP in the morning. This way I don't have to try to coordinate train and bus schedules, plus I'll get the benefit of their knowledge of the Camino.
I also have made a reservation at Refuge Orisson to break up the first part of the walk over the Pyrenees.
I'm estimating that it will take me 5 weeks to reach Santiago. I will be in Spain for just about 7 weeks, so I have enough time to travel to and from Madrid, take a rest day here and there, continue my walk to Finesterre, etc.
Personally, I would fly into Madrid and take the bus to SJPP FROM THE AIRPORT.
I would make reservations through Puente la Reina.
I would take the first day to Orisson and day 2 to Roncesvalles.
If Orisson is full I would book two nights in SJPP and use the shuttle.
I would make all those reservations the minute you know what day you arrive.
I would either fly home from Santiago or take a bus or train back to Madrid.
I was thinking to give me more time for rest on the way and to go straight from Madrid airport to pampolona and rest there... i will check into the place you suggested. thanks again.I was lucky enough to have enough frequent flyer points to pay for my tickets, so I booked as soon as I decided I was going, because I didn't want to wait until the award tickets were all gone! In order to decide how long I wanted to be in Spain I added up my estimated days of walking, travel days, recovery from jet lag days, then added in a few more days as a cushion.
Thank you fro the reminderI would stay night in SJPP.
FIRST DAY IN Orrisson sets the tone and you meet the fellow walkers that meander in and out of your journey.
Cheap flight from Santiago back to Madrid easy and convenient.
If you are a planning type person book ahead if you feel your feet lead you to where you should be then Wing it and enjoy the ride!!!
Pack light as everything you need is in Spain.
Good luck
Hi Olga, I will be walking about the same time as you, but I'm travelling from the west coast.
Here is my plan:
Fly into Madrid, arrive in the evening, and spend two nights in Madrid to recover from the long flight and jet lag. I plan to bring a suitcase for my pre and post Camino days, and I will either stay with the friend of a friend or find a hotel to stay at where I can leave my suitcase while on the Camino.
Then take the train to Pamplona. I have made a reservation at Pension Corazon Puro, outside of Pamplona. The owner offers a service which includes pick up at the airport, train or bus station, then they will drive you to SJPDP in the morning. This way I don't have to try to coordinate train and bus schedules, plus I'll get the benefit of their knowledge of the Camino.
I also have made a reservation at Refuge Orisson to break up the first part of the walk over the Pyrenees.
I'm estimating that it will take me 5 weeks to reach Santiago. I will be in Spain for just about 7 weeks, so I have enough time to travel to and from Madrid, take a rest day here and there, continue my walk to Finesterre, etc.
I am planing to walk for the first time starting in the end of august. As for sure many of you experienced one the decision to walk has been made, many questions starting to rise. The planing makes you excited and confused..
if you can help me figure out few urgent questions I have for now it will be a great start and help.
1. i will be arriving from the east side of the united states... what is the best way to reach the SJPDP airport, train? it is a bit confusing in all the traveling information there is on line... if someone done that lately i would love to receive some tips.
2. should i book the first night at the SJPDP? suggestions?
3. I am giving myself 6 weeks for the travel... what airport i will need to fly out from? so I ca book my ticket now.
thank you for your time.
olga
Hi Olga,I am planing to walk for the first time starting in the end of august. As for sure many of you experienced one the decision to walk has been made, many questions starting to rise. The planing makes you excited and confused..
if you can help me figure out few urgent questions I have for now it will be a great start and help.
1. i will be arriving from the east side of the united states... what is the best way to reach the SJPDP airport, train? it is a bit confusing in all the traveling information there is on line... if someone done that lately i would love to receive some tips.
2. should i book the first night at the SJPDP? suggestions?
3. I am giving myself 6 weeks for the travel... what airport i will need to fly out from? so I ca book my ticket now.
thank you for your time.
olga
I recommend getting out of Madrid, unless you have never seen Madrid, and getting to Pamplona. Pamplona is a great place for spending a couple of days before you start walking.I was thinking to give me more time for rest on the way and to go straight from Madrid airport to pampolona and rest there... i will check into the place you suggested. thanks again.
I flew out of Atlanta to Paris, then the high speed train to Bayonne (you can catch it right at the CDG airport), then changed to the local train to SJPP. Coming home I took the train to Madrid and flew back to Atlanta from there. Really easy!I am planing to walk for the first time starting in the end of august. As for sure many of you experienced one the decision to walk has been made, many questions starting to rise. The planing makes you excited and confused..
if you can help me figure out few urgent questions I have for now it will be a great start and help.
1. i will be arriving from the east side of the united states... what is the best way to reach the SJPDP airport, train? it is a bit confusing in all the traveling information there is on line... if someone done that lately i would love to receive some tips.
2. should i book the first night at the SJPDP? suggestions?
3. I am giving myself 6 weeks for the travel... what airport i will need to fly out from? so I ca book my ticket now.
thank you for your time.
olga
1. Well I did not take the best route I don't think but I flew from western Canada to Paris. Then took a train from Paris to Bayonne and @ Bayonne took a cab service to Saint Jean but the Cab service was very expensive since I couldn't find anyone else to share the cost on the way down by train.
2. Yes I would recommend booking in SJPDP. I stayed at Citadelle 21 which is simply an apartment with a spare room run by a mid-aged couple. They were very nice and the spare room they have is MASSIVE but the washroom is shared with them:
http://www.booking.com/hotel/fr/citadelle21.en-gb.html?
I would also recommend booking at Orisson for your first night after walking. It breaks up the first walk quite a lot and the pilgrim dinner there is lovely. Note that you have to book to stay at Orisson: http://www.refuge-orisson.com/en/
3. Well to the USA probably through Madrid. It depends if you also want to fly or bus from Santiago after as well. I bused to Porto, Portugal when I left the first time and flew with Ryan Air back to Madrid the 2nd time and flew home from Madrid, through Paris... but I was coming way west.
I recommend getting out of Madrid, unless you have never seen Madrid, and getting to Pamplona. Pamplona is a great place for spending a couple of days before you start walking.
I avoid staying IN Madrid when possible. It is a major world city and not nearly as calm as Pamplona, at least IMHO. Given a choice, I prefer staying at Pamplona.
At Pamplona, consider Hotel Eslava. I have stayed there several times. It is a small, family-run hotel like located at the Western edge of the "old town." The breakfast is very good. The rooms are clean and well-maintained, and the family members running the place are very helpful. English is also spoken by some. Mama just calls on one of her sons or daughters to translate. Hotel Eslava is located in a quiet area just off the Camino, just before you cross the "green belt" urban park and road that encircles the "older town." The Iglesia St. Lorenzo is on the corner. There are also one or two sporting goods shops nearby. You can book Hotel Eslava on Booking.com.
I hope this helps
I flew out of Atlanta to Paris, then the high speed train to Bayonne (you can catch it right at the CDG airport), then changed to the local train to SJPP. Coming home I took the train to Madrid and flew back to Atlanta from there. Really easy!
I just finished a section of the Chemin du Puy and ended in Pamplona. I then travelled by train to Barcelona.
Barcelona is a wonderful place to visit for a few days. If I were advising someone traveling from a long distance, I would suggest, as one of the first posters did, taking a day or two to get over the flight and the jet lag that accompanies it. It's normal to concentrate on and be very excited by the prospect of starting a Camino, but I would say Madrid and Barcelona offer much more than Pamplona. A personal choice, of course. The Barcelona airport is served by public transport which connects it to the main railway station and to the subway system.
Thank you Ruth very much.My first time, I flew in and out of Madrid, took the bus to Burgos, and then the bus from Santiago back to Madrid.
This time, I'm flying in and out of Madrid again, but will be taking the train to Pamplona, then the bus to SJPDP. I will likely take the bus back to Madrid again, since it is much less expensive than plane fare. I have my bed booked in SJPDP, but haven't booked anywhere else, although I've contemplated doing so in ValCarlos as well.
Beyond that , I don't think I can plan because it will all depend on how my feet do.
Blessings,
Ruth
Hi Olga,,
I walked the CF Sept 2015, I flew into Madrid from Washington, DC. We spent 1 night in Madrid then took the train to Pamplona. We made a reservation with Corazon Puro and the owner pick us up from Pamplona train station then drove us to SJPP the next morning. We walked to Orisson and spend the night there, you must have a reservation. On the 2nd day we walked to Roncesvalles. We found that crossing the Pyrenees in 2 days was good for our body. We had no muscle pain and enjoyed the view so much.
Buen Camino.
thank you for this very valuable informationHi Olga,
1. I walked the camino in 2014 and I think my information is relatively new. I flew from Toronto to Paris and without leaving the airport, I got on train to SJPDP. The airport in Paris (CDG) is connected with the train station, which is located on Terminal 2. The transfer from one terminal to the other is excellent. I had a ticket from Paris to SJPDP. I had to change the train in Bordeaux and Bayonne. Please note, in 2014, the train tracks in SJPDP were under maintenance so the train from Bayonne to SJPDP was out of commission. At that time, the holder of the train tickets were boarded on a bus and I took a pleasant bus ride from Bayonne to SJPDP.
2. I booked the first night at the SJPDP on line and I would NOT do it again. This little town thrives on the pilgrims. There are MANY places to stay. I stayed at Auberge du Pelerin for 16 euros, the breakfast of bread, jam and coffee was extra 6 euros. I would not book it again. There were other places for a better price.
3. Airlines. I find Air Transat to be the best for options and prices. You may consider getting to Montreal to get from there to Paris. Once you finish the camino, you may want to take a bus to Porto in Portugal (3 hour ride) and fly home from Porto. Air Transat has good deals on multiple city flights. If you have more question, please contact me again.
SJPdP is connected to Bayonne by SNCF train.
SJPdP is connected to Pamplona by CONDA (ALSA) bus.
Biarritz BIQ is the closest airport to SJPdP and has flights to many major airports in Europe.
The border crossing at Irun and Hendaye is where Renfe and SNCF trains meet. San Sebastian Airport EAS with frequent flights from Madrid and Barcelona is 5 km from Gare d'Hendaye.
So your mission is to figure out how to get to either Pamplona or Bayonne.
A critical factor to consider is how you will get home from Santiago.
Santiago has an airport SCQ with flights to various Major European airports and is connected by Renfe train and several bus companies to the rest of Spain.
Madrid is a good choice as it is central to both SJPdP and Santiago.
People often travel via London, Paris, Barcelona, Lisbon, Dublin and others ... its all well connected by train bus and discount airlines.
I recommend getting out of Madrid, unless you have never seen Madrid, and getting to Pamplona........
I avoid staying IN Madrid when possible. It is a major world city and not nearly as calm as Pamplona, at least IMHO. Given a choice, I prefer staying at Pamplona.....
I'm staying at Orisson because I'm not planning on an early start from SJPDP. I will be staying at Pension Corazon Puro the night before, and the owner will drive me to St Jean after breakfast. Then I'll probably poke around the town a bit before I set out.I just do not get everyone recommending that people stay in Orisson, unless you are arriving late into SJPP and want to get going. Orisson is only 8km out of SJPP and it appears most leave SJPP before 8 and arrive there in a couple of hours. The walk to Roncesvalles from Orisson is not difficult with the exception of the downhill about 2 km before arriving there. The alberque in Roncesvalles is one of the best on the Camino and most arrive by 3-4pm allowing lots of time to get cleaned up and relaxed before dinner and mass, if you so chose. Buen Camino!
Makes sense, trecile.
I spent 2 nights in SJPP and it's a great place to poke around!
Trecile, did you confirm that Istvan will pick you up at the airport?? Seems to me when I spoke to him when I stayed with he and Barbara last year, he mentioned that he didn't usually pick up at the airport because of many late arrivals, but that of course may have changed, but do check….between my stay with them, then on to Beailari in St. Jean, there was no better way to begin my Camino….and it just kept getting better.I'm staying at Orisson because I'm not planning on an early start from SJPDP. I will be staying at Pension Corazon Puro the night before, and the owner will drive me to St Jean after breakfast. Then I'll probably poke around the town a bit before I set out.
I'll be coming on the train from Madrid. As soon as I can buy my ticket I'll net Istvan know what time I'll arrive.Trecile, did you confirm that Istvan will pick you up at the airport?? Seems to me when I spoke to him when I stayed with he and Barbara last year, he mentioned that he didn't usually pick up at the airport because of many late arrivals, but that of course may have changed, but do check….between my stay with them, then on to Beailari in St. Jean, there was no better way to begin my Camino….and it just kept getting better.
Thanks!Check out this handy French site for help re poking about SJPdP.
There is so much to discover as you walk about!
Excellent….if you haven't stayed with them….trust me, you will have a most enjoyable stay and the drive through the Valcarlos to St. Jean is gorgeous.I'll be coming on the train from Madrid. As soon as I can buy my ticket I'll net Istvan know what time I'll arrive.
I just do not get everyone recommending that people stay in Orisson, unless you are arriving late into SJPP and want to get going. Orisson is only 8km out of SJPP and it appears most leave SJPP before 8 and arrive there in a couple of hours. The walk to Roncesvalles from Orisson is not difficult with the exception of the downhill about 2 km before arriving there. The alberque in Roncesvalles is one of the best on the Camino and most arrive by 3-4pm allowing lots of time to get cleaned up and relaxed before dinner and mass, if you so chose. Buen Camino!
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