Joyce Dunn Rogers
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Here's a link with some interesting ideas:Anyone have ideas?
Thanks for this info. It is very comprehensive for my home state.Here's a link with some interesting ideas:
I've been a member for a short while and I'm actively planning some outings to brighten my winters in Florida, not that they are bleak by any accounts.TrailLink: Trail Maps & Guide for Biking, Hiking & Running Trails | TrailLink
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I have searched long, and the closest Camino like experience that I have found is in Canada. Close, yet so far. https://theislandwalk.ca/I've been desperately searching around for some sort of Camino-like experience in my own country (U.S.) in case Covid still has the world closed down.
Problem is, every long distance trek here involves packing along food & cooking gear, along with everything else you'd need for a month or longer.
We don't seem to have the hostel/albergue infrastructure that I want/need.
Anyone have ideas?
Have any of you backpacked The Oregon Trail?
Do you mean the Oregon Coast Trail? I have looked into that, and it seems like it's possible to hike it and stay in hotels/motels and campsites that have permanent tents or yurts. There is a Facebook group for it that I've joined, and a member has sent me a spreadsheet of their stages and where they stayed.I've been desperately searching around for some sort of Camino-like experience in my own country (U.S.) in case Covid still has the world closed down.
Problem is, every long distance trek here involves packing along food & cooking gear, along with everything else you'd need for a month or longer.
We don't seem to have the hostel/albergue infrastructure that I want/need.
Anyone have ideas?
Have any of you backpacked The Oregon Trail?
Not that it will help @Joyce Dunn Rogers this year, as the US-Canada border is closed, a gander through the search function will get her informatin on the Chemin de Sanctuaires (Montréal to Sainte Anne through Québec City) and the Chemin de Navigateurs (Rimouski to Sainte Anne through Québec City), both of which are well-supplied with commercial accommodation and agreeable walking routes, much along dedicated trails. I don't know where she is in the US (a big country, I am told), but there are trails along the Erie Canal (https://www.ptny.org/cycle-the-erie-canal/trail-map) which are fairly well supported, and there is a growing body of railways-to-trails throughout the US (https://www.traillink.com/)-- she will likely have to figure out accommodation--- a challenge this year-- but state tourism agencies have in my experience been really helpful with their advice and have guided me to local and statewide volunteer groups with their enthusiasts.I have searched long, and the closest Camino like experience that I have found is in Canada. Close, yet so far. https://theislandwalk.ca/
I've read about the Oregon Coast Trail but, no...Do you mean the Oregon Coast Trail? I have looked into that, and it seems like it's possible to hike it and stay in hotels/motels and campsites that have permanent tents or yurts. There is a Facebook group for it that I've joined, and a member has sent me a spreadsheet of their stages and where they stayed.
I see that you're in Roseburg - I'm in Medford, we'll have to get together when it's safe!I've read about the Oregon Coast Trail but, no...
I mean the 2,170 mile Oregon Trail route the pioneers in covered wagons traveled from East to West (United States) in the 1860's.
I live in Oregon and walking near/on a windy beach and/or walking on Hwy. 101 is not in the least bit appealing to me.
I see that you're in Roseburg - I'm in Medford, we'll have to get together when it's safe!
Absolutely! I've been missing it the last 9 months.You're nearly my next door neighbor! Bet you're a regular at the REI store.
Joyce, I don't know how far you are interested in traveling to get to a trail. I see your a West Coaster. The KATY (Clinton, MO to near St. Louis, MO 237 miles) has been mentioned already. I've biked some rail trails but not hiked them. If you're not familiar with rail trails, they are very easy walking as they were built on abandoned railroad beds which were limited to no more than a 3% grade.I've been desperately searching around for some sort of Camino-like experience in my own country (U.S.) in case Covid still has the world closed down.
Problem is, every long distance trek here involves packing along food & cooking gear, along with everything else you'd need for a month or longer.
We don't seem to have the hostel/albergue infrastructure that I want/need.
Anyone have ideas?
Have any of you backpacked The Oregon Trail?
I've looked in to that one. I think mosquitos in summer could be an issue, but I'm no naysayer.Check out the Superior Hiking Trail in MN
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Thanks so very much for the many suggestions from everyone! You all have given me a needed boost out of my Camino doldrums and hours upon hours of investigative happiness.I've been desperately searching around for some sort of Camino-like experience in my own country (U.S.) in case Covid still has the world closed down.
Problem is, every long distance trek here involves packing along food & cooking gear, along with everything else you'd need for a month or longer.
We don't seem to have the hostel/albergue infrastructure that I want/need.
Anyone have ideas?
Have any of you backpacked The Oregon Trail?
The C&O Canal Towpath is 185 miles from Cumberland, MD to Georgetown in D.C. There are camp sites along the way and multiple lock houses you can rent. My husband and I did it this summer since we couldn't go to Europe. Because we live close by , we rented a camper for 2 weeks for the western portion.I've been desperately searching around for some sort of Camino-like experience in my own country (U.S.) in case Covid still has the world closed down.
Problem is, every long distance trek here involves packing along food & cooking gear, along with everything else you'd need for a month or longer.
We don't seem to have the hostel/albergue infrastructure that I want/need.
Anyone have ideas?
Have any of you backpacked The Oregon Trail?
My sister and I did a hiking trip with Vermont Inn to Inn, with perfect timing for fall colours in 2019. It was expensive but wonderful, great meals were included, lovely inns. Nothing like a pilgrim experience but it was a great trip! We got there by train.Could be expensive but Google Vermont inn to inn with either hiking or biking. I just saw something this morning that Vermont had the lowest covid test positivity rate in the lower 48.
Firstly for me, walking at home doesn't give me the connection to other people the way that the Camino does.Forgive my ignorance as I've not been to the U.S. but I've often wondered why people travel half way around the world to walk in Spain, particularly if they are not doing it for religious reasons.
I agree with everything you say, @trecile, but to be clear to those not from our county, on the majority of our long distance trails it would still be nearly impossible to avoid camping. Possibly if/when a trail might merge with, or be near a road, a person could hitch hike to a next town, but even so, carrying all the camping gear and many meals would be a necessity for the most of a long distance hike. My son has hiked 1000 miles of the AT, the whole of the John Muir trail and the Colorado trail.Or, in order to walk long distances and avoid camping it is very expensive.
Firstly for me, walking at home doesn't give me the connection to other people the way that the Camino does.
And here in the US long distance walks generally means backpacking, sleeping in a tent, carrying all of your own food, no hot showers, etc.
Or, in order to walk long distances and avoid camping it is very expensive. It costs me less to fly to Spain and spend 5-6 weeks on the Camino vs driving to my neighboring state of California to walk the Mission trail for a couple of weeks!
Exactly!Firstly for me, walking at home doesn't give me the connection to other people the way that the Camino does.
And here in the US long distance walks generally means backpacking, sleeping in a tent, carrying all of your own food, no hot showers, etc.
Or, in order to walk long distances and avoid camping it is very expensive. It costs me less to fly to Spain and spend 5-6 weeks on the Camino vs driving to my neighboring state of California to walk the Mission trail for a couple of weeks!
Yes I realise that there would not be the same connection, like there is in Spain, with everyone heading towards the same goal. Even here in the U.K. there is not the same connection, even on popular routes. Leaving that aside as well as the cost, as that too would cost a lot in the U.K. I was just wondering if would it be possible in some states to walk between places on quiet back roads, obviously some states there might be too great a distance between communities as there is in the highlands of Scotland compared to the rest of the country. The East Coast Greenway looks like it could be done without camping.Firstly for me, walking at home doesn't give me the connection to other people the way that the Camino does.
And here in the US long distance walks generally means backpacking, sleeping in a tent, carrying all of your own food, no hot showers, etc.
I'm interested in that one, but my guess is that it will be very costly (the airfare to get there is was much as to Spain) as the accommodations are all hotels and B&B's and we have no comparable businesses to the cafe/tavernas of Iberia (or the rest of Europe for that matter).I have searched long, and the closest Camino like experience that I have found is in Canada. Close, yet so far. https://theislandwalk.ca/
The Bay Circuit Trail and Greenway or Bay Circuit is a Massachusetts recreational trail and greenway connecting the outlying suburbs of Boston from Plum Island in Newburyport to Kingston Bay in Duxbury, a distance of 200 miles (320 km).I was just wondering if would it be possible in some states to walk between places on quiet back roads
I've seen just a bit of this lovely coastline on a family cruise a few years ago. My #1 son and his wife plan to go back and navigate the entire route by vehicle if we from the US are not allowed to travel internationally by summer.I'm interested in that one, but my guess is that it will be very costly (the airfare to get there is was much as to Spain) as the accommodations are all hotels and B&B's and we have no comparable businesses to the cafe/tavernas of Iberia (or the rest of Europe for that matter).
Too right! I am in mid-Missouri and my local 240 mile long Katy Trail biking/hiking railway conversion trails over-complicates sourcing food and lodging options if the hiker/biker is without a car (or several) or off-season. Water and toilets close down during the winter. "Pilgrim connection"? Highly unlikely; pannier-laden bikers don't slow down; hikers are overwhelmingly, as myself, local and into their iPods. Yes, there are long distance trails in USA but I personally feel the n"unique-Camino-something" is actually to be found only ON the Camino.I've been desperately searching around for some sort of Camino-like experience in my own country (U.S.) in case Covid still has the world closed down.
Problem is, every long distance trek here involves packing along food & cooking gear, along with everything else you'd need for a month or longer.
We don't seem to have the hostel/albergue infrastructure that I want/need.
Anyone have ideas?
Have any of you backpacked The Oregon Trail?
So very true!Interesting that we want what they got and they want what we got!
There are many greenways/trails like this in the planning process. The one referred above is, according the website, 33% complete. It takes many years to complete these, and the process is tedious getting land acquisition through construction of the trails. And after all of this, the infrastructure of inns etc. comes.The East Coast Greenway looks like it could be done without camping.
We have a long way to go in the US before we get systems of trails in place.
Such a true statement.....It does always seem like the grass is greener on the other side.Interesting that we want what they got and they want what we got!
Robert Redford and Nick Nolte, a movie made from Bill Bryson's book "A Walk in the Woods"...very humorous!Perhaps other options can be incorporated such as B&B's, couch surfing and inexpensive motels?
Not coming to mind at the moment as to the title but a few years ago, a movie came out with two old actors who took on the Appalachian Trail. They ducked out of Trail Life when they needed to, ensuring their needs and sanity were maintained. I think the one guy was Robert Redford.
Let me know if you decide to do this, maybe we could get a group!I have biked a few lovely sections of the Katy Trail in Missouri, which runs along the Missouri river. It can be set up walking on a day to day basis, staying at guest houses and BB's along the way...and has nearby Amtrak train service going both ways one end of the state to the other. I am considering this for a couple of weeks in the spring if my intended camino keeps getting postponed.
Redford had hoped to make the movie with Paul Newman.Robert Redford and Nick Nolte, a movie made from Bill Bryson's book "A Walk in the Woods"...very humorous!
A nice thought. If true, the idea for the movie came long before it was filmed and released in 2015, as Newman died in 2008.Redford had hoped to make the movie with Paul Newman.
Will do! It's a default option if we are not allowed to fly internationally for quite awhile.Let me know if you decide to do this, maybe we could get a group!
From the Wikipedia article:A nice thought. If true, the idea for the movie came long before it was filmed and released in 2015, as Newman died in 2008.
The project dates back to at least 2005, when Robert Redford first announced his plans to make the film. ...
Redford initially wanted Paul Newman to costar in the film with him, to the point where Redford temporarily abandoned the project after Newman's death, unable to picture any other actor suitable for the role. However, while directing The Company You Keep, Redford was so impressed by the performance of Nick Nolte that he was eventually cast in the role.
Wow, ten years from a thought to the finish. I can certainly understand why Newman would have been a good pick, although I thought Nolte was hilarious.
Hey, bro if you find something let me know. I am up for a Florida hike even if it is slow the neuropathy in my right foot is becoming a liability to me but I still think I can hike. Happy Holidays.Here's a link with some interesting ideas:
I've been a member for a short while and I'm actively planning some outings to brighten my winters in Florida, not that they are bleak by any accounts.TrailLink: Trail Maps & Guide for Biking, Hiking & Running Trails | TrailLink
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Cheers,
JM
A Wikipedia says:I am up for a Florida hike
The Florida Trail is one of eleven National Scenic Trails in the United States. It currently runs 1,000 miles (1,600 km), with 300 miles (480 km) planned, from Big Cypress National Preserve (between Miami and Naples, Florida along the Tamiami Trail) to Fort Pickens at Gulf Islands National Seashore, Pensacola Beach. Also known as the Florida National Scenic Trail (which applies only to its federally certified segments), the Florida Trail provides permanent non-motorized recreation opportunity for hiking and other compatible activities and is within an hour of most Floridians.
Hazards: Severe weather, alligators, venomous snakes, bears
Happy holidays to you.Hey, bro if you find something let me know. I am up for a Florida hike even if it is slow the neuropathy in my right foot is becoming a liability to me but I still think I can hike. Happy Holidays.
As an expat originally from London who has lived on the west coast of Canada for 17 years...I believe that when I did ive in Europe I took the history for granted and largely like mosts Brits, Spain = mass tourism playas. I guess the beautiful landscape that is British Columbia is taken for granted in comparison to when I 1st migrated?Forgive my ignorance as I've not been to the U.S. but I've often wondered why people travel half way around the world to walk in Spain, particularly if they are not doing it for religious reasons.
Luckily I live in the U.K. where there is a huge network of footpaths that connect everywhere, as well as as a lot of minor roads with little traffic. As well a huge network of religious sites or other places of interest that can be connected to create a self made walk.
If there is not a footpath network, that doesn't involve wilderness backpacking, is it not possible to use minor back roads to create a trail, linking small towns, where you could use hostels, hotels and B&Bs and not need to pack food or camping gear?
I did find this link below one time, when I was curious about pilgrimage routes in other countries. Not sure if they involve too much backpacking or not.
North American Pilgrimage Routes
Severe weather, venomous snakes, bears and alligators are part of the beauty of Florida. I live next to a mangrove swamp that separates me from the white sandy beach of Delnor-Wiggins State Park. Trust me we have snakes and alligators just outside my door, plus rabid raccoons and enormous mosquitos. I have seen portions of this trail and it is alluring but I don't think I would do it during the summer, it is too hot.
For those interested I found this websiteI read of the Shrine of St. Rose Philippine Duchesne which runs 335 miles from Kansas to St Louis. It's a camino-type pilgrimage route. They have a Credential which you can download. It begins at the shrine church in Mound City & ends at the Cathedral Basilica of Saint Louis. It sounds interesting.
This runs mostly along the Katy Trail, which others have mentioned. I’d loved to do it!I read of the Shrine of St. Rose Philippine Duchesne which runs 335 miles from Kansas to St Louis. It's a camino-type pilgrimage route. They have a Credential which you can download. It begins at the shrine church in Mound City & ends at the Cathedral Basilica of Saint Louis. It sounds interesting.
I copied this from their website:
'Walking Pilgrimage in Devotion to St. Rose Philippine Duchesne. Beginning at Mound City, each of the 26 stages
represents a day’s walk and offers some type of pilgrim accommodation.
The greatest distance in a single
day is 17 miles, with one day 19 miles if there in seasons of high water. Each night there is at least a church or community hall for
accommodation, and in some cases, hotels and/or bed-and-breakfasts are additionally available.
For pilgrims who don’t have 26 days available and would be interested in a shorter pilgrimage, the trail can be joined at any point, with two
place – Sedalia and Jefferson CIty – served by an Amtrak line connecting St Louis and Kansas City.
We have the Katy Trail in the Midwest and you have the Mission Trail in Cali.WOW! Who knew?
This seems like it might be worth researching.
Thank you @OldBamboo
I biked a stretch of the Katy Trail a few years ago, from St. Charles, MO, going west as far as Herman. It was in the fall, perfect weather, fall color, with the river on one side, limestone bluffs on the other on this eastern stretch.I was just now online mapping it (Katy) out. The photos on Google images are amazing.
But it sounds like the Katy Trail is more of an actual trail, while the Mission Walk is mostly on roads.We have the Katy Trail in the Midwest and you have the Mission Trail in Cali.
Or there is the California Mission Walk
My pack included ... 2.5 lbs of food per day (estimate 5 days between buying more). By day 30, I cut that down to 1.5 lbs,
Ok, as I mentioned before, I prepackaged boxes containing instant foods, trail mix, etc. These were mailed at different intervals to be collected at Post Offices along the trail. Breakfast: water, pop tart with chunky peanut butter. Lunch: power bar, Apple, orange, trail mix, etc. Supper: Stove Top Stuffing, instant potatoes, hamburger helper. Add pieces of hot dogs, or pepperoni, bratworst, hard salami and squeeze butter. The key with things like hot dogs is get a package of 12 at a trail head and eat as you go, or include in supper mix.@Arn, would you please (private conversation if you prefer) what was in your 1.5 lb per day. And what difficulties you had on restocking or changing.
Another way for me to understand is what you ate for a typical breakfast, lunch and dinner?
I have biked a few sections of this lovely trail every summer with my family and I've never thought of walking it. I suppose longer stretches could be pieced together by staying at B&B's in the towns as you go along.Fox River Trail in Illinois might be an option. Suburban, but mostly scenic along the river.
That’s where the hotel points come in handyA couple of years ago I looked into the "Camino" that goes between the California Missions.
After doing a budget, I was surprised that this "at home" walk was about twice the cost of doing the Camino in Spain, including airfare, and so I decided against it.
Yeah, there’s a reason I did survival training in February. I don’t sleep if bears are about (perhaps due to reading about bears eating campers when I was young)—although lions in our camp in Africa wasn’t too bad.I thru-hiked the Appalachian Trail (2,164 miles/5 months 4 day). My pack included a light one man tent (I may have used three times), 2.5 lbs of food per day (estimate 5 days between buying more)by day 30, I cut that down to 1.5 lbs, whisper lite camp stove (only used for supper), limited toiletries, two pair of shorts, wind breaker, three pair of socks, lifesaver, long sleeve fleece, flip flops, field first aid kit, micro-fiber towel, 40 degree sleeping bag, three poly-pro t-shirts, cap and sunglasses. Much the same as in the Camino sans food and cooking gear. I slept in the shelters on the trail, lodges/hostels/hotels about every five days.
Except for the first two weeks leaving Georgia, weekend trailheads and the last week in Maine, I walked mostly alone.
You find the faint of heart don't last that long.
That was exactly my thought when I was there sketching today.I have biked a few sections of this lovely trail every summer with my family and I've never thought of walking it. I suppose longer stretches could be pieced together by staying at B&B's in the towns as you go along.
Privately owned mini-albergues help but you need a very friendly hospitalero/hospitalera to put you up and give shuttle service.I have biked a few sections of this lovely trail every summer with my family and I've never thought of walking it. I suppose longer stretches could be pieced together by staying at B&B's in the towns as you go along.
Thanks so much for posting this - it really is fantastic.Here's a link with some interesting ideas:
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