Sean Deane
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- This will be my first Camino starting in Sept. 3 2014 I hope to be in SJPDP by Sunday Sept. 7
I'm very excited and I can't wait to get out there and start to meet the Camino family.
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To further reduce weight, you might consider to eliminate the items in your list marked yellow (attached):That seems like a lot of weight to me...I walked with about 17 lbs when I was loaded with food and water - and I'm working on taking it down to 15 for my next camino. But I have been working on my new pack list while the last one was so fresh in my mind. This is my complete list. As I'm female, I'm sure there are a few things on here you wouldn't need
I would like to ask you, does it get very cold this time of year going over the mountains or across the plains?My list and weights then
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It will stay warm to hot in September. There may be a morning chill at higher elevations, but you will walk it off in five minutes. A light pair of gloves is always handy.I would like to ask you, does it get very cold this time of year going over the mountains or across the plains?
I would like to ask you, does it get very cold this time of year going over the mountains or across the plains?
Ya Scott I didn't but I figured somethings were kind of a given on the list, I do thank you for your help. I have gone back over all my stuff and have gotten my pack down to the 20-25 lbs, by dropping the mat the fleece and paring down my med kit and dropping the camp set and a few other items. I'm thinking about my walk sticks and pocket knife but I would have to check my pack not sure I want to do that. Your ideas any body......
Daysack at 68g? Sounds a familiar weight! SeatoSummit?Our packing lists for next year are attached.
Note that it excludes our sleeping bags which weigh 750gms each. (We are walking a different Camino next year where we will be using private accomodation and not albergues.)
The wash kit is an elastic rope and 8 pegs, between the 2 of us. Shampoo is used as wash liquid, or a piece of toilet soap.
Yes Al. We like them for walking around but not for walking. If you see what I mean. We like the airflow back system so as not to get too hot and sweaty, but they are great for sightseeing. Useful too once in Santiago for carrying extras home.Daysack at 68g? Sounds a familiar weight! SeatoSummit?
To further reduce weight, you might consider to eliminate the items in your list marked yellow (attached):
- no need for sleeping bag until mid Oct., liner will do.
- Water bottle, Bladder: Buy 1/2 lt. Mineral water and refill bottles on the way .
- Headlamp, Batteries: Download a flashlight-app for your iPhone instead .
- Maps, Guidebooks: Use Google-maps, etc.: store PDF's on iCloud and/or email them to yourself before departure.
- Playing cards, bathing suit: You'll never use them, trust me!
- Shoes: one pair on your feet is enough. For inside of albergues, a pair of flip-flops.
Backup iPhone battery-pack makes sense.
Buen Camino
PS: Don't forget: (Almost-) anything you missed can be bought on the way
I thank that is a good idea of checking the questionable stuff in an other bag and keeping the main gear with ya. Thank youI am checking a separate, cheap, give away duffel bag with my trusty swiss army knife and my beautiful Black Diamond trekking poles. I will will carry on the rest of my pack. If worse comes to worst and the give away duffel gets lost in transit, I have already scoped out where to get new trekking poles and a swiss army knife very early in my trip. I cannot live without the trekking poles for saving my knees, nor the swiss army knife for slicing bread, cheese, salame, tomatos, and the occasional avocado for a roadside bocadilla, and more importantly, the corkscrew for opening the bottles of peregrino wine. (I tend to make my own lunches along the way)
I will be donating the cheap duffel bag upon arrival in Spain. I will check all contents in my main pack when departing.
All great info and suggestions. I have gone back over my pack and I used my kitchen scale which has given me a much more accurate number. The scale I used before I think was broken. But even with the new scale I still needed to par down some items. My med kit was one of them and now it's done to tape band aids blister buster and ointment so now it's 8oz. I dropped a fleece pull over for a lighter long sleeve. I have a 2 lte. water blat. my pack is 3 lbs. REI. My cloths are light wait quick dry material 4lbs. So in all I'm at 25 lbs. now. I had been training with the higher wait so I should be good to go when I get there. 12 days and counting.Put the knife and walking sticks in a cardboard tube and check it in. It won't cost you any extra, it's included with your plane ticket anyways.
20-25 lbs? Are you packing food from home? How much water are you carrying? That's the only things I can think of that can add extra weight.
I had 3-4lbs of food that I packed on my first Camino, I dumped an unopened jar of peanut butter in Orisson, took over a week to eat it all.
I used two 500ml Nalgene bottles and bought another 500ml bottle of water (€0.23 cents at the supermercado) on the longer sections that didn't have fountains as needed.
As far as a first aid kit goes, I used the items inside the J&J essential first aid from Target for $0.97, the farmacias in Spain are like the ones in Mexico, you can get most items that you would need a prescription in the US.
I started the Camino at 10kg, I was down to 7.5kg at the end, I went with a 46L pack. My new smaller pack is 30L and down to 6.5kg with water.
Thank you Stephen Buen camino as wellWell done, Sean, on getting that weight down.
In spite of what has been said, you can buy almost anything on the camino - there are stores and shops and bars in almost all the villages and towns along the camino [that's why they're there!]
You're going to have a wonderful time on the camino..... wish I were coming with you
Buen camino, amigo!
You are in a league of your own!You may have pared down the contents but now it's time to weigh that pack empty and maybe buy a much lighter one.
The one I used was a day pack weighing 200 grms (half a pound) my total pack weight full was 2.5 Kg (5.5 lbs)
I'm thinking your pack is the culprit - it must weigh a bit empty - good brand or not - try weighing it empty and you'll knowI've got a great pack good brand and I have put just my second set of cloths and the basic basic stuff in it and it ways 40 lbs. I've been training with it so I think I'm ok. But I guess I'm wondering if there are thing's I can leave out. So if any one out there with more exp. cam help that would be great.
pack list:
first aid pack
toiletries mini
laundry rope
shorts
t-shirt
two par socks
rain poncho
long sleeve shirt
fleece coat
camp set, for, knife, spoon
pocket knife
journal
battery's
ear plug's
sun glasses
it's really basic so I guess is 40 lbs right.
Thank you for your help every one.
The scale was broken.I just don't see how that packing list can total 40lbs! I think that either there are eight bricks hidden in your pack or there is a problem with your scales. Try popping down to the nearest supermarket and try it on theirs!
new scale that work's my pack is 25 lbs. I now know what made my pack so heavy my English Mastiff was hiding in side.......LOL I have gone back over all my stuff and everything is travel size, all the clothing is light wait and one set. My laundry line is para cord 3oz. My torch is LED pocket size 4oz. small journal and guide book. head lamp second set of battery's, towel is sham, my pack it self is 2lbs. A set of sandal's that could be the problem I have gun boat's for feet lol.We all now want to know what it really weighs!!!!
Ok gang Ty for all the help I have gotten the pack to 20 lbs. and every thing elt's is ready to go. I'm 10 day's out from lift off. I do have one more question. I will be needing to take a train from Paris to SJPDP. Which one? and which one is the cheapest. I've looked up the stations which there are many. I think the one I need is Monparnasse south of paris. If you could please give me a heads up.
I would like to ask you, does it get very cold this time of year going over the mountains or across the plains?
Ok gang Ty for all the help I have gotten the pack to 20 lbs. and every thing elt's is ready to go. I'm 10 day's out from lift off. I do have one more question. I will be needing to take a train from Paris to SJPDP. Which one? and which one is the cheapest. I've looked up the stations which there are many. I think the one I need is Monparnasse south of paris. If you could please give me a heads up.
This post discusses travel from Paris to Saint Jean Pied de Port.
Caveat. I do not have first hand knowledge of most of the information presented here. The material in this thread was researched using web resources that may be out of date. Information may be incomplete or incorrect. The information presented here is not exhaustive. You are advised to confirm your own travel details.
2100 Paris This post is great I have been looking for a clean and clear understanding of there system. One more hurtle over come.
2101 This section discusses transportation services in Paris.
Index 2100
2102 Paris Airports
2103 Getting around in Paris
2104 Charles de Gaulle Airport to Orly Airport
2105 Charles de Gaulle Airport to Gare d'Austerlitz
2106 Charles de Gaulle Airport to TGV Massy
2107 Charles de Gaulle Airport to Gare Montparnasse
2120 Trains in France
2121 Paris Train Stations
2125 Paris to London by Eurostar
2135 Paris to Barcelona by train
2150 Paris to Saint Jean Pied de Port
2102 Paris Airports
Paris has two major airports. Charles de Gaulle Airport (CDG) is known as Roissy and is located NE of Paris. Orly Airport (ORY) is located to the South of Paris.
CDG and Orly:
http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/ADP/en-gb/passagers/home/
2103 Getting around in Paris
Paris Transit Network
http://www.ratp.fr/plan-interactif/carteidf.php?lang=uk
Paris RER/Metro route planner - SNCF Transilien
http://www.transilien.com/itineraire/rechercheitineraire/init
Air France Shuttle Bus with service from CDG to Orly airport (#3) and to Gare Montparnasse (#4)
http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/ADP/...97348c-aerolis_deplianttakeoneBD_Mars2013.pdf
2104 Charles de Gaulle Airport to Orly Airport
There are two transit options from CDG Airport to Orly Airport.
a. RER Line B (destination B4 Saint Remy les Chevreuse) from CDG airport to Station Antony. Take Orly Val (name of train) from Station Antony to Orly airport Terminal Sud and Terminal Ouest. Allow 1:30 hours.
b. Air France bus from CDG airport direct to Paris Orly airport. Allow 1:15 hours.
2105 CDG Airport to Gare d'Austerlitz
RER Line B (destination B4 Saint Remy les Chevreuse) from CDG airport to Saint Michel Notre Dame RER station. Walk from RER station to Metro. Take Metro line 10 from Cluny la Sorbonne to Gare Austerlitz. Allow 1 hour.
2106 CDG Airport to TGV Massy
RER Line B (destination B4 Saint Remy les Chevreuse) from CDG airport to Massy-Palaiseau RER station. The Massy TGV station is located next to the RER station.
2107 CDG Airport to Gare Montparnasse
There are two transit options from CDG airport to Gare Montparnasse:
a. RER Line B (destination B2 Robinson or B4 Saint Remy les Chevreuse) from CDG airport to Gare du Nord. Paris Metro Line 4 from Gare du Nord to Metro Station Montparnasse Bienvenue. Allow 1:00 hour. Allow an additional 15 minutes to walk from the Metro station to Gare Montparnasse.
~Note there are 3 points where it is possible to transfer from RER B to Metro line 4. A transfer at St Michel may be preferable as Gare du Nord is a large station and will require orientation time.
b. Air France operates a bus service from CDG direct to Gare Montparnasse. Allow 1:15 hours.
2120 Trains in France
SNCF
http://www.sncf.com/
SNCF - train schedule and tickets:
http://www.voyages-sncf.com/billet-train/horaires
SNCF TER
http://www.ter-sncf.com/
SNCF Railway Map
http://www.bonjourlafrance.com/france-map/sncf-map-large.htm
2121 Paris Train Stations
Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport Terminal 2 train station
http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/fr/frmlw/accueil/
Gare de Massy TGV
http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/fr/frdju/accueil/
Note in additon to CDG 2 and Massy there are 6 major train stations in Paris:
Paris Gare d'Austerlitz
http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/fr/frpaz/accueil/
Gare Paris Bercy
http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/fr/frpbe/accueil/
Gare Paris Est
http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/fr/frpst/accueil/
Paris Gare de Lyon
http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/fr/frply/accueil/
Paris Gare Montparnasse
http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/fr/frpmo/accueil/
Paris Gare Montparnasse Map
http://www.railteam.eu/en/files/2011/11/MAP_Paris-Montparnasse_En.pdf
Paris Gare du Nord.
http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/fr/frpno/accueil/
Map of TGV train network in Paris:
http://www.bonjourlafrance.com/france-trains/images/tgv-map-paris.jpg
2125. Paris to London by Eurostar
Eurostar trains operate between Paris Gare du Nord and London St Pancras International Station
http://www.eurostar.com
2135 Paris to Barcelona by Train
SNCF and Renfe operate high speed trains between Paris Gare de Lyon and Barcelona Sants.
SNCF - train schedule and tickets:
http://www.voyages-sncf.com/billet-train/horaires
2150 Paris to Saint Jean Pied de Port
2151 This section discusses how to get from Paris to Saint Jean Pied de Port.
Index 2150
2152 Executive Summary
2153 Fly from Paris to Biarritz and train to SJPdP
2154 Train from Paris to SJPdP
2155 Train stations between Paris and Bayonne
2156 Saint Jean Pied de Port
2157 Author's Pick
2152 Executive Summary
There are at least two viable options for getting from Paris Charles de Gaulle (CDG) airport to Saint Jean Pied de Port (SJPdP):
a. Fly from Paris to Biarritz and take the train from Bayonne to SJPdP.
b. Take the train from Paris to Bayonne and transfer to another train from Bayonne to SJPdP. Stations in Paris with trains to Bayonne include: CDG 2, Gare d'Austerlitz, Gare Montparnasse, and Gare Massy.
Note: The tracks between Bayonne and SJPdP got washed out in Spring 2014. At time of edit (July 2014) the train goes from Bayonne to Cambo les Bains. Passengers to SJPdP transfer to an SNCF operated bus at Cambo les Bains. There is no information as to when the tracks will be repaired. The schedule is changing often.
2153 ~Option 1 Fly from Paris to Biarritz and train to SJPdP
a. Fly from Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport (CDG) to Biarritz Airport (BIQ). Easy Jet provides service; or,
b. Fly from Paris Orly Airport (ORY) to Biarritz Airport (BIQ) Air France provides service.
The Chronoplus urban bus #14 leaves from the doors of Biarritz Airport and goes to Gare de Bayonne. Allow 40 minutes.
The SNCF TER train #62 travels from Bayonne to terminus at SJPdP.
Biarritz Airport (BIQ)
http://en.biarritz.aeroport.fr/
Chronoplus
http://www.chronoplus.eu/
SNCF TER Aquitaine
http://www.ter-sncf.com/Regions/Aquitaine/fr/Default.aspx
2154 ~Option 2 - Train from Paris to SJPdP
TGV trains travel towards Bayonne from three train stations in Paris:
a. There is a TGV station located at Charles de Gaulle Airport Terminal 2.
b. There is a TGV station located at Gare Montparnasse in central Paris. There is greater frequency of service from Gare Montparnasse than from CDG 2.
c. The tracks from CDG 2 and Gare Montparnasse converge and TGV trains from both stations stop at Gare Massy.
SNCF TGV trains leave from Paris enroute to Bordeaux or Irun. Often there is a transfer required at Bordeaux. TGV trains from Bordeaux terminate in Irun. TER trains from Bordeaux terminate in Pau or Hendaye. If your train is bound for Pau another transfer is required at Dax. Trains bound for Hendaye or Irun stop in Bayonne.
SNCF Intercites night trains travel from Paris Gare d'Austerlitz to Hendaye and stop in Bayonne.
SNCF TER train #62 travels from Gare Bayonne to terminus at SJPdP.
You will get limited results if you try to find a schedule for a train from Paris to SJPdP. I'd suggest planning your trip from Paris to Bayonne then Bayonne to SJPdP.
SNCF
http://www.sncf.com/
SNCF - train schedule and tickets:
http://www.voyages-sncf.com/billet-train/horaires
SNCF TER Aquitaine
http://www.ter-sncf.com/Regions/Aquitaine/fr/Default.aspx
2155 Train Stations between Paris and Bayonne
Gare Bordeaux - Saint Jean (Saint Jean is name of main station in Bordeaux)
http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/en/frboj/accueil/
Gare Bordeaux - Saint Jean according to Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gare_de_Bordeaux-Saint-Jean
Gare de Dax
http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/fr/fracg/accueil/
Gare de Bayonne
http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/fr/frxby/accueil/
2156 Saint Jean Pied de Port
Saint Jean Pied de Port
http://www.st-jean-pied-de-port.fr/default.aspx
2157 Author's pick
If I were traveling to SJPdP by way of Paris I would:
a. Determine if it was cost effective and time effective to fly from Paris to Biarritz. Time effective means arriving in time to catch a train from Bayonne to SJPdP on the same day.
b. If arriving at CDG and taking the train is the better option ... take the train from CDG 2 if the schedule is viable.
c. If CDG 2 schedule doesn't work ... Take the RER train from CDG to Massy and catch the TGV train originating from Montparnasse ... Massy is easier to access than Montparnasse because there are no transit transfers required.
d. If arriving at Orly ... take the Orly Val to station Antony and RER train to Massy. Trains from CDG2 and Montparnasse converge before Massy.
I am carrying 9 kilos which is considered heavy by camino standards. My pack includes 1.5 kilos of diabetic stuff. You should consider cutting your weight in half. Travel light because you can buy all that you require along the way.I've got a great pack good brand and I have put just my second set of cloths and the basic basic stuff in it and it ways 40 lbs. I've been training with it so I think I'm ok. But I guess I'm wondering if there are thing's I can leave out. So if any one out there with more exp. cam help that would be great.
pack list:
first aid pack
toiletries mini
laundry rope
shorts
t-shirt
two par socks
rain poncho
long sleeve shirt
fleece coat
camp set, for, knife, spoon
pocket knife
journal
battery's
ear plug's
sun glasses
it's really basic so I guess is 40 lbs right.
Thank you for your help every one.
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