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Hello,
I don't know if this topic has been brought up before, but as I hadn't seen anything, it might be time to introduce it again. This will be a bit of a rant, but I have good reasons having recently completed the Camino Frances with my husband.
Litter bothers me. I can't for the life of me understand why an adult needs to do it. The amount of litter I saw on the Camino is staggering and there is one particular type of litter that totally disgusts me, but I will get to that.
1. FOOD - mainly orange and banana peels. People, they take YEARS to biodegrade. There is no animal (or insect) in France or Spain, or anywhere else that I can think of, that actually eat them. Ants do not carry them down into the ground. Birds do not eat them. In fact, they are used as a repellent in certain circumstances. They just sit where people throw them. You could not sit down anywhere without finding an orange peel or banana skin, even when there was a bin nearby. If you didn't know that these skins weren't biodegradable, well you do now. So don't leave it behind. Stick it in your bag and take it away with you until you get to the next village and throw it in the bin.
2. CANS, BOTTLES, SHOES, ETC - these don't biodegrade either. So why are so dang lazy that you can't carry your EMPTY bottles or cans to the next village and put it in the recycling bins that they have in every town? Oh, and so your shoes look amusing for a moment sitting on top of a marker, but it is still litter, not a bleeding sculpture. Take your stuff with you and put it where it belongs, in a bin, not in the middle of the countryside!
3. TOILET PAPER - the most disgusting thing to be left near every tree or shrub on the Camino. LADIES, yes, it is mainly ladies. Men don't need to use paper when they pee on the side of the road. Only women use paper for a pee. How do YOU expect paper to biodegrade when left out in the open? It doesn't. Trust me, I've seen enough of it in the desert in Bolivia. This is the most disgraceful of all litter, as it isn't as if the paper just fell out of your bag, on the side of the road behind that bush or tree? Come on, who are you kidding? There is no way to bury it in that hard ground even if you use your poles. There are two things you can do: A) Take it with you. Yes, take it with you. Put it in a plastic bag and take it with you, with the rest of your rubbish. Urine is sterile, and it isn't as if you are being asked to take anyone else's with you. B) Drip dry. Yup, drip dry. If you don't like that damp feeling, but it shouldn't matter with all the sweating that goes on down there when it is scorchio outside, use panty liners. They don't weigh much, you can buy them in nearly every town, and they keep you dry. It is what I do when I travel and think I might get caught short. With all the amount of water that you drink on the Camino, it is inevitable that you may get caught short before you reach the next village bar/cafe. Especially when walking through the Meseta. So don't be a dirty, lazy so-and-so.
The bottom line is: TAKE IT WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!! You are a visitor in someone else's country! How would you feel if someone left a mess in your house after you just cleaned it! Rant over, now don't get me started about the graffiti!
Hello @Tangodiver and welcome back from the camino. Ouch.The bottom line is: TAKE IT WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!! You are a visitor in someone else's country! How would you feel if someone left a mess in your house after you just cleaned it!
For those that drop banana peels here are 20 things they can be used for.Hello,
I don't know if this topic has been brought up before, but as I hadn't seen anything, it might be time to introduce it again. This will be a bit of a rant, but I have good reasons having recently completed the Camino Frances with my husband.
Litter bothers me. I can't for the life of me understand why an adult needs to do it. The amount of litter I saw on the Camino is staggering and there is one particular type of litter that totally disgusts me, but I will get to that.
1. FOOD - mainly orange and banana peels. People, they take YEARS to biodegrade. There is no animal (or insect) in France or Spain, or anywhere else that I can think of, that actually eat them. Ants do not carry them down into the ground. Birds do not eat them. In fact, they are used as a repellent in certain circumstances. They just sit where people throw them. You could not sit down anywhere without finding an orange peel or banana skin, even when there was a bin nearby. If you didn't know that these skins weren't biodegradable, well you do now. So don't leave it behind. Stick it in your bag and take it away with you until you get to the next village and throw it in the bin.
2. CANS, BOTTLES, SHOES, ETC - these don't biodegrade either. So why are so dang lazy that you can't carry your EMPTY bottles or cans to the next village and put it in the recycling bins that they have in every town? Oh, and so your shoes look amusing for a moment sitting on top of a marker, but it is still litter, not a bleeding sculpture. Take your stuff with you and put it where it belongs, in a bin, not in the middle of the countryside!
3. TOILET PAPER - the most disgusting thing to be left near every tree or shrub on the Camino. LADIES, yes, it is mainly ladies. Men don't need to use paper when they pee on the side of the road. Only women use paper for a pee. How do YOU expect paper to biodegrade when left out in the open? It doesn't. Trust me, I've seen enough of it in the desert in Bolivia. This is the most disgraceful of all litter, as it isn't as if the paper just fell out of your bag, on the side of the road behind that bush or tree? Come on, who are you kidding? There is no way to bury it in that hard ground even if you use your poles. There are two things you can do: A) Take it with you. Yes, take it with you. Put it in a plastic bag and take it with you, with the rest of your rubbish. Urine is sterile, and it isn't as if you are being asked to take anyone else's with you. B) Drip dry. Yup, drip dry. If you don't like that damp feeling, but it shouldn't matter with all the sweating that goes on down there when it is scorchio outside, use panty liners. They don't weigh much, you can buy them in nearly every town, and they keep you dry. It is what I do when I travel and think I might get caught short. With all the amount of water that you drink on the Camino, it is inevitable that you may get caught short before you reach the next village bar/cafe. Especially when walking through the Meseta. So don't be a dirty, lazy so-and-so.
The bottom line is: TAKE IT WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!! You are a visitor in someone else's country! How would you feel if someone left a mess in your house after you just cleaned it! Rant over, now don't get me started about the graffiti!
For those that drop banana peels here are 20 things they can be used for.
The banana peel, like coffee grounds, tea leaves, and orange peels has a lot of beneficial qualities that’ll make you think twice the next time you toss it in the trash. We’ve gathered 20 of the best banana peel uses for you to try:
1) Shoe Polish: Did you know banana peels (on the inside) make a great shoe polish? Just rub it around your shoe and then buff it with a white cloth.
2) Teeth Whitener: Rub the inside of your banana peel on your teeth to whiten them. Apparently, the manganese, magnesium and potassium helps whiten the enamel of your teeth.
3) Wart Cure: It only takes 1-2 weeks to remove a wart with a banana peel.
4) Itch Soother: Banana peels can help relieve bug bites and poison ivy. It won’t remove the oils that cause the itching but it’ll soothe the bite or rash altogether.
5) Monkey Party: Have a Curious George party and put 30 peels on your deck for the kids to slip around on!
6) Silverware Polish: Blend banana peel with water and use on your silver to take the polish off with a soft cloth.
7) Meat tenderizer: Add a banana peel to your next roast and it’ll add just enough moisture to ensure that roast doesn’t get too dry.
8) Splinter Removal: Banana peels help ease splinters out of your skin. Place banana peel on a splinter with athletic tape for a while and then try to ease the splinter out.
9) Aphid Control: Aphids don’t like banana peels. If you bury some around your roses or other plants aphids love (like cauliflower), you’ll deter them from coming around. Or, try this garlic/banana peel spray for aphids.
10) Rose Food: Here are a few great recipes for feeding your roses with banana peels that are rich in calcium and magnesium, as well as many other trace minerals that your flowers love.
11) Bruise Patrol: Banana peels on the inside, if rubbed on a bruise, will aid in making it disappear.
12) Compost: Banana peels break down pretty quickly and add wonderful nutrients to your soil. Throw them in your compost!
13) Acne: Banana peels rubbed on your acne will help in the acne curing process.
14) Dry Skin Cure: If you have psoriasis, try rubbing the inside of a banana peel on your affected areas twice a day and you’ll see the dry scaly skin dissipate.
15) Banana Boat Campfire Dessert: This recipe will please all who are sitting around the campfire.
16) Hemorrhoid Cure: Yup, you guessed it. As with acne, banana peels help cure hemorrhoids.
17) Banana Peel Message: Leave a message for your child on their banana peel by pricking out letters with a toothpick, the skin will bruise and there will be a dark brown message for your sweetie by lunchtime.
18) Tomato Plant Fertilizer: Wrap a banana peel around your tomato starts when you plant them in the garden and they’ll enjoy the nutrients from the peel as they grow throughout the summer.
19) Banana Peel Steamed Pork and Rice: Try this recipe out for size.
20) Anti Depressant: Researchers have found that drinking boiled banana peel water (or juicing the peel) can ease depression.
It is shaping up to be the busiest year on record including Holy Years, so the litter is probably proportional to the number of pilgrims!there is much more litter round than I have seen on previous Caminos.
I wish I could sketch it out, but I take a regular grocery size plastic bag, fold it lengthwise to about 2", then to do a triangle fold-over to the end. I end up with a 2X2" piece. I have included several these in my pack….for the purpose of picking up this type of trash. In all likelihood, the culprits won't be in this forum, but it's hard for me to pass trash and not pick it up as best I can.Hello,
I don't know if this topic has been brought up before, but as I hadn't seen anything, it might be time to introduce it again. This will be a bit of a rant, but I have good reasons having recently completed the Camino Frances with my husband.
Litter bothers me. I can't for the life of me understand why an adult needs to do it. The amount of litter I saw on the Camino is staggering and there is one particular type of litter that totally disgusts me, but I will get to that.
1. FOOD - mainly orange and banana peels. People, they take YEARS to biodegrade. There is no animal (or insect) in France or Spain, or anywhere else that I can think of, that actually eat them. Ants do not carry them down into the ground. Birds do not eat them. In fact, they are used as a repellent in certain circumstances. They just sit where people throw them. You could not sit down anywhere without finding an orange peel or banana skin, even when there was a bin nearby. If you didn't know that these skins weren't biodegradable, well you do now. So don't leave it behind. Stick it in your bag and take it away with you until you get to the next village and throw it in the bin.
2. CANS, BOTTLES, SHOES, ETC - these don't biodegrade either. So why are so dang lazy that you can't carry your EMPTY bottles or cans to the next village and put it in the recycling bins that they have in every town? Oh, and so your shoes look amusing for a moment sitting on top of a marker, but it is still litter, not a bleeding sculpture. Take your stuff with you and put it where it belongs, in a bin, not in the middle of the countryside!
3. TOILET PAPER - the most disgusting thing to be left near every tree or shrub on the Camino. LADIES, yes, it is mainly ladies. Men don't need to use paper when they pee on the side of the road. Only women use paper for a pee. How do YOU expect paper to biodegrade when left out in the open? It doesn't. Trust me, I've seen enough of it in the desert in Bolivia. This is the most disgraceful of all litter, as it isn't as if the paper just fell out of your bag, on the side of the road behind that bush or tree? Come on, who are you kidding? There is no way to bury it in that hard ground even if you use your poles. There are two things you can do: A) Take it with you. Yes, take it with you. Put it in a plastic bag and take it with you, with the rest of your rubbish. Urine is sterile, and it isn't as if you are being asked to take anyone else's with you. B) Drip dry. Yup, drip dry. If you don't like that damp feeling, but it shouldn't matter with all the sweating that goes on down there when it is scorchio outside, use panty liners. They don't weigh much, you can buy them in nearly every town, and they keep you dry. It is what I do when I travel and think I might get caught short. With all the amount of water that you drink on the Camino, it is inevitable that you may get caught short before you reach the next village bar/cafe. Especially when walking through the Meseta. So don't be a dirty, lazy so-and-so.
The bottom line is: TAKE IT WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!! You are a visitor in someone else's country! How would you feel if someone left a mess in your house after you just cleaned it! Rant over, now don't get me started about the graffiti!
Hello,
I don't know if this topic has been brought up before, but as I hadn't seen anything, it might be time to introduce it again. This will be a bit of a rant, but I have good reasons having recently completed the Camino Frances with my husband.
Litter bothers me. I can't for the life of me understand why an adult needs to do it. The amount of litter I saw on the Camino is staggering and there is one particular type of litter that totally disgusts me, but I will get to that.
1. FOOD - mainly orange and banana peels. People, they take YEARS to biodegrade. There is no animal (or insect) in France or Spain, or anywhere else that I can think of, that actually eat them. Ants do not carry them down into the ground. Birds do not eat them. In fact, they are used as a repellent in certain circumstances. They just sit where people throw them. You could not sit down anywhere without finding an orange peel or banana skin, even when there was a bin nearby. If you didn't know that these skins weren't biodegradable, well you do now. So don't leave it behind. Stick it in your bag and take it away with you until you get to the next village and throw it in the bin.
2. CANS, BOTTLES, SHOES, ETC - these don't biodegrade either. So why are so dang lazy that you can't carry your EMPTY bottles or cans to the next village and put it in the recycling bins that they have in every town? Oh, and so your shoes look amusing for a moment sitting on top of a marker, but it is still litter, not a bleeding sculpture. Take your stuff with you and put it where it belongs, in a bin, not in the middle of the countryside!
3. TOILET PAPER - the most disgusting thing to be left near every tree or shrub on the Camino. LADIES, yes, it is mainly ladies. Men don't need to use paper when they pee on the side of the road. Only women use paper for a pee. How do YOU expect paper to biodegrade when left out in the open? It doesn't. Trust me, I've seen enough of it in the desert in Bolivia. This is the most disgraceful of all litter, as it isn't as if the paper just fell out of your bag, on the side of the road behind that bush or tree? Come on, who are you kidding? There is no way to bury it in that hard ground even if you use your poles. There are two things you can do: A) Take it with you. Yes, take it with you. Put it in a plastic bag and take it with you, with the rest of your rubbish. Urine is sterile, and it isn't as if you are being asked to take anyone else's with you. B) Drip dry. Yup, drip dry. If you don't like that damp feeling, but it shouldn't matter with all the sweating that goes on down there when it is scorchio outside, use panty liners. They don't weigh much, you can buy them in nearly every town, and they keep you dry. It is what I do when I travel and think I might get caught short. With all the amount of water that you drink on the Camino, it is inevitable that you may get caught short before you reach the next village bar/cafe. Especially when walking through the Meseta. So don't be a dirty, lazy so-and-so.
The bottom line is: TAKE IT WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!! You are a visitor in someone else's country! How would you feel if someone left a mess in your house after you just cleaned it! Rant over, now don't get me started about the graffiti!
Hahaha! In one ear and out the other I guess! I can feel mildly superior because I take my own crap with me!Hello @Tangodiver and welcome back from the camino. Ouch.
There once was a saying "He without sin cast the first stone", instead of getting upset and being negative how about positive thoughts yes there is pollution on the Camino but pollution also comes in all forms I think bad vibes, ie which walker had bad thoughts when a bike went wizzing by or when you saw the increase in crowds doing the last 100k, we should put ourselves in their shoes or bike seat I think St James would like us all to get on.
I agree with all except that St. James killed the Moors it was a legend the guy was well and truly dead, like you said there are a lot of idiots out there like myself so one reason I walk the Camino is to learn patience and when I walk it again I will try even harder to put up with others short comings and try not to have so many myself.In a perfect world we can all get along, but you can't hear those bikes until they are right on top of you and they really do hack me off when they don't ring their bells or if they don't have one, shout out. So yeah, I will have bad thoughts on and off throughout the Camino, because I'm human and there are a lot of idiots out there. But I'm ok with that. And please don't bring Saints into this, the guy slaughtered Moors, so who are you kidding, and they didn't even have bicycles!
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