Stephen Parker
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Does Spanish labour law actually permit zero wages for labour? Living with your “employer” without wages or benefits or clearly defined parameters (maybe some of this, maybe some of that, possibly some other thing) is called something else where I’m from, and it was outlawed 200 years ago where I’m from.
France
Missed that. I doubt that French labour law would permit it either. It seems rather exploitative regardless of region (my actual point).
Does Spanish labour law actually permit zero wages for labour? Living with your “employer” without wages or benefits or clearly defined parameters (maybe some of this, maybe some of that, possibly some other thing) is called something else where I’m from, and it was outlawed 200 years ago where I’m from.
You mean that it would not be allowed, right?I don't know. It would certainly be allowed in the US.
I know that it may be common, but I think that the legality is somewhat murky.Actually this kind of thing is very common internationally these days - volunteering in exchange for board and lodging, on farms or other types of property including those run as hotels etc, helping with restoration or day-to-day operations, is a way a lot of people fund their travels and get interesting experience in other countries - HelpX, WWOOFers, HelpStay and other similar schemes. Usually very short-term, a few weeks at a time, but sometimes longer. It's certainly common in Europe including France, the USA, UK, NZ and Australia. And definitely legal. Not at all the same as slavery!Visa and immigration rules apply of course and vary as you'd expect - the authorities will be well aware of these schemes and can advise accordingly.
The OP's son-in-law might consider joining one of the schemes I mentioned, or a similar one, if he hasn't already, as a host - this would provide him with some protection and support as well as supporting his potential volunteers, and would give him a wider audience of people who are looking for this kind of opportunity.
I know that it may be common, but I think that the legality is somewhat murky.
For example from the US Embassy in Germany says this:
Planning to work for room and board on a farm or as an Au Pair/Nanny? Do Woofing? An internship? Even if you stay less than 90 days, these activities are considered work and require the appropriate visa. Visa Waiver Program travelers entering the United States with ESTA authorization are not allowed to work. If you are a Summer Work Travel participant (J-1 visa) you may only work in jobs approved by your designated U.S. sponsor. Informal arrangements to work in exchange for lodging or meals are also considered unauthorized employment and are not permitted for tourists.
You mean that it would not be allowed, right?
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