Mark Di Marzio
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- 2015 -SJPP- Santiago .Oct/Nov
2017 -Porto to Santiago.Oct
2017- Santiago- Finesterre. Nov
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uzRebekah Scott is a wise and wonderful member of this forum. As you can see by following these links back to her writings, she is part of the beating heart of the Camino in the most practical, passionate, difficult and sublime ways.".
During this time when it is not possible for you to be on the Camino in person you may see a way to be of service - her Peaceable Projects activity is inspiring.
I recommend her Camino-located book of medieval historical fiction 'The Moorish Whore'
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/peaceable-projects-newest-camino-non-profit.52168/
Yes..Expatriate is a good word to plug into google . I went to my local library this afternoon and got out a book on living abroad in Italy -I couldn’t seem to find a similar one for Spain . . I also have found some links via the Internet of house sites (renting and buying) in Spain . I know the Internet is awash with information -sometimes there is too much information to sort through . I was just looking for some personal experiences of people who may be members of the forum -who have perhaps walked the Camino a number of times like I have , who have then decided to make a transition to living and working full time in Spain or Portugal or Italy in some capacity Camino related that they may care to share -in terms of how they made it work for them , costs , some tips, things they have learnt, advice they may care to pass on etc to help me in my research . Thankyou kindlyOn Google searches put in the word expatriate too.
Here is the link:thanks all you guys for the kind words.
Several years ago I wrote a piece for this forum for people who are considering emigrating and/or opening their own albergue, something like "So You Want to Run Your Own Albergue." I think it is in the Resources section. Perhaps one of the techie people can find the link?
Tons of people share your dream, I hear from at least four or five every year... it used to be more impractical, but in the last couple of years I have seen MANY more people emigrate to Spain to live along The Way, many of them American retirees. You have lots of time to do your homework and avoid the pitfalls.
Hi Mark, you could check out the EURES portal which has a lot of information on Living & Working in European countries. It also has a jobs portal where you can search for relevant jobs. EURES is a partnership of all of the European Public Employment Services and some private actors. see this link www.eures.europa.eu best of luck with your endeavors. HMy life has revolved around the Camino de Santiago since I stumbled upon a 2nd hand copy of Paulo Coehlo’s book ‘The pilgrimage’ in sacred heart goodwill op shop in St Kilda (Melbourne , Australia) in 2014 . I researched and planned my Camino in 2015 and flew to London then made my way down to St Jean Pied de Port & walked from St Jean to Santiago de Compostella . It was such a healing and transformative experience for me . I completed hospitelero training in early 2017 and worked in an albergue in Bercianos in Oct 2017 and afterwards walked the Portuguese Camino from Porto . I returned to Spain in 2018 and walked again . This year in 2019 I walked one more time .
I can’t really get any more time off work for the next year or two . However over the last 3 years I have been in the process of arranging euro citizenship (dual Australian -Italian citizenship) to allow me the opportunity to live in Europe if I so desire . I feel that I would like to research opportunities to live a more authentic and meaningful life where I can use my skills and abilities in service on the Camino de Santiago more fully .
I’m interested in seeking practical information of people that have left their jobs and homeland and now live and work in some capacity in Spain or Portugal or Italy on the Camino full time . How did they make this happen ? How did they find a place to live /work ? What kinds of things did they need to organise to make it happen ? Are there websites or other links where I can find info. ? How are they finding life now ? Any comments , reflections welcome . Thankyou kindly , Mark
Contact Susi, from Casa Susi, in Trabadelo. She is an Aussie who opened her own Albergue. I stayed there in June. She has a wonderful story. I recommend her Albergue to everyone I know....
Thanks for this .However, I can’t seem to locate it - when I try -it says’broken link ‘ .From two sisters ... who emigrated from Ireland in Sept 2019 to live and work along Camino in their new retreat, .... you may want to consider contacting them.
Thankyou !Google International living magazine. It is a magazine geared towards individuals who want to become ex pats. They also have a daily email they send out highlighting many of the questions you are asking.
Great post . I read it . Really good. Thankyou for the excellent information. Many good points . I’m not sure if running an albergue is for me -but I’m doing some research at the moment and appreciate comments and advice so alternatives are being considered .I am actually in the process of becoming an EU citizen through Italian -Australian citizenship. It’s been a long process (years) but I’m nearly there . I also have some ok , but could be better ,Spanish language skills , through Spanish lessons and my previous trips to Spain - which needs improvement but going ok. I am fluent in Italian and of course English .Check out @Rebekah Scott's excellent post (here the link again: https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/so-you-want-to-run-your-own-albergue.21604/)
If it is only you that wants to move, you might want to look in doing something less demanding than running an albergue. There are plenty of other things pilgrims need help with.
If you are staying more than 90 days in Spain you need to register with the foreign police here in Spain, straight forward for an EU passport holder - but you need Spanish to do so.
As for housing, plenty of real estate agents around here - Do you plan to rent or buy?
Hope that helps a little bit, if you have more concrete questions, please come back with them ;-)
BC SY
Thanks mate ! Good stuff ! I’ll have a look at it ! Cheers@Mark Di Marzio this is not necessarily Camino related, but possibly a way to network. I met a peregrina who volunteered after her Camino for several weeks at Vaughan Town in Madrid. She gave a presentation about the Camino to the participants during her tenure. Here is an article about Vaughan Town. The article cites a few other like organizations.
Good to read your thoughts . Looks like we have a few things in common .Yes, the Italian consulate here in Melbourne have been very ‘bureaucratic ‘ and obtuse to deal with -I don’t know why -I have all the right paperwork -they just have their own way of doing things . They have a convoluted system . Anyway ... I’m nearly there .Just a comment, not really answering your question.
I also have "jure sanguis"dual citizenship with Italy (and the USA). It sounds like your still going down that path. Took me 6 years to complete the paperwork... hope yours goes smoother. Of course there are lots of resources for expats that you can easily find on the web, although camino specific seems doubtful.
I hope to move to Italy next year, living at first off savings and proceeds from renting my house. Of course the Mediterranean is cheaper then the US and definitely Austalia, too, where I worked once.
It's my feeling that you just have make the leap. It's only once your on the ground where you want to be that you will discover the opportunities and resources that will allow you to stay and live the life you want. Maybe an albergue volunteer position in the right location that allows you to explore, make friends.
I guess what I'm saying is yes, do some research, but just plan a date, save some money and then go. Even if it's not perfectly arranged. I myself have been thinking about and delaying the Camino since 1999 and am finally doing it this spring (and now it's super-crowded, ughh!)
I only say this because abour 15 years ago, I moved too the Netherlands, and did all this advance planning, almost none of which was relevant in the end. Also, I would guess that Northern Spain is a hard place to find a job unless you have some needed specialized skills. Good luck!
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