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Thanks for this feedback. After a couple pairs of Hokas that seemed rather poor quality I switched to Salomon. Training in them now. Not near as cushioned but very comfy so far.There has been some discussion about the life expectancy of Hoka shoes, so I made a little note to myself to report on the condition of my Hoke Challenger ATR 7s when I got back from my Caminos thus summer.
Well, I'm back, so here is the report.
In these shoes, I walked the Madrid, San Salvador, Primitivo, and Finisterre/Muxia caminos, plus some extra at the beginning from my old front door to the official beginning of the Madrid, a number of detours, and some of the Frances to stitch together the Madrid and San Salvador. All in all, that was probably just shy of 1,000 km of routes, although the actual amount of walking (which also includes walking around towns and villages) was over 1,200 km. And a bit of training walks before my Camino to ensure they worked for me.
The shoes did not fall apart, did not come apart at the seams. As mentioned above, this included the Salvador and the Primitivo, so there was hiking as well as walking, and walking on all kinds of surfaces including plenty of asphalt and also plenty of rock.
There was definitely wear on the treads. The treads in the centre are pretty much gone, but this model doesn't have much tread in the centre to begin with.
In heneral, I would say there is still some life in this shoe yet. Not to bad, and not like some of the horror stories I was reading. Maybe I just got lucky.
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I've never carried a backup running shoe. My backups have always been hiking sandals. And I've never tried the Bondi 7s, only the Bondi 6s. I really liked the Bondi 6s, though. More cushioned than the Challengers, although perhaps with a little less tread. I think they would be my choice for the Camino Portugues.Thanks for the review David, and giving me a bit more confidence. This is what I am wearing on the trails around my home in the Blue Ridge mountains in Virginia. I bought a new pair for my Camino Frances which I start on 30 August.
I was contemplating bringing a pair of Bondi 7s as a backup/town shoe. Not sure if its worth the weight.
Your thoughts?
Thanks and Buen Camino!
Thanks for the reply. I'm trying to avoid packing my fears. Im not a sandals guy, so an extra shoe would be for around town.I've never carried a backup running shoe. My backups have always been hiking sandals. And I've never tried the Bondi 7s, only the Bondi 6s. I really liked the Bondi 6s, though. More cushioned than the Challengers, although perhaps with a little less tread. I think they would be my choice for the Camino Portugues.
I wear only the Challengers when hiking or walking the Camino. My feet are wide and the Challenger 7 and 6 in wide aren’t as wide as the 5’s. Like you wrote they go on sale and so I’m bought a few, and I’m down to my last 2 pair of 5’s, which will do the Madrid in September and the Lana in April. After that maybe the 8 will be out and I’ll try those out…I have a couple of pairs myself (the was a sale on!). I’ve only done a couple of hundred kms in both. Previously I wore Cliftons on the Camino. They lasted well, and were very comfy, but the sole wasn’t firm enough for rocky surfaces; I could feel those rocks. The ATR sole is better on rough surfaces, but the lugs do wear faster than a flatter sole, and the centre soft section of the sole gets scuffed up faster. So wear vs suitability, I prefer them for mixed surfaces (what they are designed for anyway) and happy enough with the lifespan. Hoka generally have a end of year sale, that’s the time to buy.
There has been some discussion about the life expectancy of Hoka shoes, so I made a little note to myself to report on the condition of my Hoke Challenger ATR 7s when I got back from my Caminos thus summer.
Well, I'm back, so here is the report.
In these shoes, I walked the Madrid, San Salvador, Primitivo, and Finisterre/Muxia caminos, plus some extra at the beginning from my old front door to the official beginning of the Madrid, a number of detours, and some of the Frances to stitch together the Madrid and San Salvador. All in all, that was probably just shy of 1,000 km of routes, although the actual amount of walking (which also includes walking around towns and villages) was over 1,200 km. And a bit of training walks before my Camino to ensure they worked for me.
The shoes did not fall apart, did not come apart at the seams. As mentioned above, this included the Salvador and the Primitivo, so there was hiking as well as walking, and walking on all kinds of surfaces including plenty of asphalt and also plenty of rock.
There was definitely wear on the treads. The treads in the centre are pretty much gone, but this model doesn't have much tread in the centre to begin with.
In general, I would say there is still some life in this shoe yet. Not too bad, and not like some of the horror stories I was reading. Maybe I just got lucky.
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There has been some discussion about the life expectancy of Hoka shoes, so I made a little note to myself to report on the condition of my Hoke Challenger ATR 7s when I got back from my Caminos thus summer.
Well, I'm back, so here is the report.
In these shoes, I walked the Madrid, San Salvador, Primitivo, and Finisterre/Muxia caminos, plus some extra at the beginning from my old front door to the official beginning of the Madrid, a number of detours, and some of the Frances to stitch together the Madrid and San Salvador. All in all, that was probably just shy of 1,000 km of routes, although the actual amount of walking (which also includes walking around towns and villages) was over 1,200 km. And a bit of training walks before my Camino to ensure they worked for me.
The shoes did not fall apart, did not come apart at the seams. As mentioned above, this included the Salvador and the Primitivo, so there was hiking as well as walking, and walking on all kinds of surfaces including plenty of asphalt and also plenty of rock.
There was definitely wear on the treads. The treads in the centre are pretty much gone, but this model doesn't have much tread in the centre to begin with.
In general, I would say there is still some life in this shoe yet. Not too bad, and not like some of the horror stories I was reading. Maybe I just got lucky.
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Although I can see in this picture that the insides of the back of the shoe near the heel wore out just like they quickly did in the last two pairs of Hokas I had. The first pair I used for hiking, but the second pair was just walking around town. Not much mileage at all.There has been some discussion about the life expectancy of Hoka shoes, so I made a little note to myself to report on the condition of my Hoke Challenger ATR 7s when I got back from my Caminos thus summer.
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The insides at the back of the shoe, that wore out on these shoes, seem to wear out very quickly on all my shoes. Maybe it is something in how I wear them. It didn't seem to affect things too much or lead to blisters.I
Although I can see in this picture that the insides of the back of the shoe near the heel wore out just like they quickly did in the last two pairs of Hokas I had. The first pair I used for hiking, but the second pair was just walking around town. Not much mileage at all.
The threads were fine but it was the uppers that started wearing out in just a few months oif light use which I thought was a bit disappointing for a shoe with a cost between 150 and $200. I had a Bondi 7 and an Arihi 6. Maybe the Challenger is a more robust shoe.
Each user has a different experience, but a lot of people sure complain about Hokas quickly falling apart. Glad you were satisfied with your purchase.
You are probably still in the window when you can edit your post if you want to correct it. Almost all my posts are edited by me shortly after posting to correct typos and this sort of thing.Speedboats should read Speedgoat, predictive strikes again
Thanks for that, I didn't know you could do that but then again I'm not exactly knowledgeable when it comes to forums, I've learnt something new so it has to be a good day!!You are probably still in the window when you can edit your post if you want to correct it. Almost all my posts are edited by me shortly after posting to correct typos and this sort of thing.
Good to know and thanks. I’m a Bondi girl but will walk the Le Puy to (God & body willing) to Santiago early Sept in STINSONS ATR 6’s. I need a plusher shoe vs Challenger ATR and the lugs should be ok but I do believe I’ll need a second pair if I am able to go beyond SJPDPThere has been some discussion about the life expectancy of Hoka shoes, so I made a little note to myself to report on the condition of my Hoke Challenger ATR 7s when I got back from my Caminos thus summer.
Well, I'm back, so here is the report.
In these shoes, I walked the Madrid, San Salvador, Primitivo, and Finisterre/Muxia caminos, plus some extra at the beginning from my old front door to the official beginning of the Madrid, a number of detours, and some of the Frances to stitch together the Madrid and San Salvador. All in all, that was probably just shy of 1,000 km of routes, although the actual amount of walking (which also includes walking around towns and villages) was over 1,200 km. And a bit of training walks before my Camino to ensure they worked for me.
The shoes did not fall apart, did not come apart at the seams. As mentioned above, this included the Salvador and the Primitivo, so there was hiking as well as walking, and walking on all kinds of surfaces including plenty of asphalt and also plenty of rock.
There was definitely wear on the treads. The treads in the centre are pretty much gone, but this model doesn't have much tread in the centre to begin with.
In general, I would say there is still some life in this shoe yet. Not too bad, and not like some of the horror stories I was reading. Maybe I just got lucky.
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Great to see and read how well the Challenger's performed. Sadly, the women's shoe hasn't faired too well for me. Only 3 training hikes and the fabric around the collars are badly frayed. Doesn't give me confidence in how the rest of the shoe will hold up when time comes to walk 500 miles.There has been some discussion about the life expectancy of Hoka shoes, so I made a little note to myself to report on the condition of my Hoke Challenger ATR 7s when I got back from my Caminos thus summer.
Well, I'm back, so here is the report.
In these shoes, I walked the Madrid, San Salvador, Primitivo, and Finisterre/Muxia caminos, plus some extra at the beginning from my old front door to the official beginning of the Madrid, a number of detours, and some of the Frances to stitch together the Madrid and San Salvador. All in all, that was probably just shy of 1,000 km of routes, although the actual amount of walking (which also includes walking around towns and villages) was over 1,200 km. And a bit of training walks before my Camino to ensure they worked for me.
The shoes did not fall apart, did not come apart at the seams. As mentioned above, this included the Salvador and the Primitivo, so there was hiking as well as walking, and walking on all kinds of surfaces including plenty of asphalt and also plenty of rock.
There was definitely wear on the treads. The treads in the centre are pretty much gone, but this model doesn't have much tread in the centre to begin with.
In general, I would say there is still some life in this shoe yet. Not too bad, and not like some of the horror stories I was reading. Maybe I just got lucky.
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These are what my Stinsons look like, after walking the Francés last summer and I’ve also kept wearing them for the last year, mostly for hikes in the woods. Loved them on camino!Good to know and thanks. I’m a Bondi girl but will walk the Le Puy to (God & body willing) to Santiago early Sept in STINSONS ATR 6’s. I need a plusher shoe vs Challenger ATR and the lugs should be ok but I do believe I’ll need a second pair if I am able to go beyond SJPDP
David, the pics that you’ve attached seem to show two different pairs of shoes (the colours on the soles are different). Did you bring two pairs of Hokas and rotate them? If you did, is there about 600km on each pair. I ask because I’m doing the Via de la Plata this Spring and planning which footwear to use.There has been some discussion about the life expectancy of Hoka shoes, so I made a little note to myself to report on the condition of my Hoke Challenger ATR 7s when I got back from my Caminos thus summer.
Well, I'm back, so here is the report.
In these shoes, I walked the Madrid, San Salvador, Primitivo, and Finisterre/Muxia caminos, plus some extra at the beginning from my old front door to the official beginning of the Madrid, a number of detours, and some of the Frances to stitch together the Madrid and San Salvador. All in all, that was probably just shy of 1,000 km of routes, although the actual amount of walking (which also includes walking around towns and villages) was over 1,200 km. And a bit of training walks before my Camino to ensure they worked for me.
The shoes did not fall apart, did not come apart at the seams. As mentioned above, this included the Salvador and the Primitivo, so there was hiking as well as walking, and walking on all kinds of surfaces including plenty of asphalt and also plenty of rock.
There was definitely wear on the treads. The treads in the centre are pretty much gone, but this model doesn't have much tread in the centre to begin with.
In general, I would say there is still some life in this shoe yet. Not too bad, and not like some of the horror stories I was reading. Maybe I just got lucky.
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Just one. The sole is orange on the side but the tread on the bottom is mostly blue. (The yellow sole photos in the thread are someone else's Stinsons.) You can see it more easily in this photo of new Hokas I found on the web, taken from a different angle.David, the pics that you’ve attached seem to show two different pairs of shoes (the colours on the soles are different). Did you bring two pairs of Hokas and rotate them? If you did, is there about 600km on each pair. I ask because I’m doing the Via de la Plata this Spring and planning which footwear to use.
Thanks David.Just one. The sole is orange on the side but the tread on the bottom is mostly blue. (The yellow sole photos in the thread are someone else's Stinsons.) You can see it more easily in this photo of new Hokas I found on the web, taken from a different angle.
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