- Time of past OR future Camino
- Olvidado/San Salvador/Primitivo 2019
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Yes, it was your info that I extracted the bit about Villasana! Not that I am not a fan of Romanesque but having lived in Italy for a few year I have found liitle that compares. Also, I am a bit compulsive about doing the path! I’ll look at your alternative, but tarmac (or any other surface except deep mud!) does not worry me overly. Often I rely on AirB&B but even that failed this time…..Hi Mike,
I don’t have access to all my notes right now but I was one who went on to Villasana — I take it you are not a fan of Romanesque. I do remember thinking that it would be inconvenient for someone not so enamored to carve out the early stages
I also remember a lot of asphalt those first few days. Lots on hard paved bike paths. If that’s a problem you could consider a permutation some of us are thinking about for 2019. Vasco interior and then connect to olvidado in Aguilar de Campoo. The part before Aguilar has some uninspiring stages but it really gets going afterwards. Just a thought to throw in the mix.
I like the look of that! Unfortunately, the link does not work. Do you know the GR ID? The nearest I can see is the GR99 which you could also pick up at Miranda de Ebro but as far as I can see that does not cross the Olvidado or reach quite as far as Aguilar? MikeWell, what a few of us have been murmurring about is Vasco Interior to Haro. And then a GR to Aguilar, followed by the rest of the Olvidado to Ponferrada. @caminka is the one who suggested this, maybe she will chime in with helpful information as she always does!
Here is a website on the GR she referred to
http://www.mapama.gob.es/es/desarro...ales/sector-noreste/ebro/ebro_occidental.aspx
This is still in the vague dreaming stages, since it would not happen till 2019, and Camino 2018 will be happening in a few months. Buen camino, Laurie
I think this will be my next camino with either the Invierno at the end to SdC or maybe the Frances - depends how I feel when I get to Ponferrada. My intention this year is to start around 12 Sept (I’m currently banned from another spring time walk as everything in the garden grows too fast!). Have gathered info from the various posts in the forum and the only bit I am struggling with is the first couple of days where accommodation choices seem limited. Seems the only choice is walk 25 or 35kms first day to Guenes/Balmaseda and then on to Espinosa de los Monteros which is 43kms from Balmaseda. I don’t particularly mind those distances but would prefer slightly shorter days at the start. Also I don’t want to detour off to Villasana de Mena. Anyone got other options? I see there is a Casa Rural at San Pelayo about 30kms from Balmesada which may be an option although a little pricey!
Well, what a few of us have been murmurring about is Vasco Interior to Haro. And then a GR to Aguilar, followed by the rest of the Olvidado to Ponferrada.
I can see from the wikiloc links in your other post that this follows in part the GR99 but also tries to take a few ‘short’ cuts.
Thankfully, I am used to using GPS tracks and my great friend google maps to find my way so am fairly content that I won’t get too lost, too often!
These 2 links that you posted:
pesquera de ebro - orbaneja del castillo: https://es.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=21433123
orbaneja del castillo - polientes: https://es.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=21433123
Are the same maps so I guess there was a cut and paste error.
did you mean GR 99? camino vasco intersects with it in miranda de ebro, so you don't need to go all the way to haro - unless you want to, of course.
this part of the GR 99 is probably the most spectacular of the whole GR as it goes through several gorges and ravines and one canyon. I really enjoyed it. there are even several romanesque churches, too.
yes, this is quite correct. I always try to make a doable route but also an interesting one. if possible, I use local paths (PRs and the green ones). I also have no problem detouring to an interesting site off any route. also, I do get lost sometimes, so that is reflected in the gps tracks.
this is the correct gps for orbaneja - polientes: https://es.wikiloc.com/rutas-senderismo/camino2012-128-orbaneja-del-castillo-polientes-21434689. and coincidently, it's right here that I didn't see a turn and missed a romanesque church.
the comment about the destroyed footbridge goes to miranda de ebro - banos de sobron day. it's right at the end of the day and I'm not sure how you get to the other side of the river where GR continues if it's still down.
Hi, caminka,
I don't know why I am paying attention to this route, when I can't even walk it till 2019. You are a terrible temptress! I was hoping you would post here.
Your comment about the footbridge led me to poke around on the internet, and I don't see any mention of a problem like that on that stage of the GR-99. See a couple of pages: http://luismiportu.blogspot.com/2017/05/gr-99-etapa-11-banos-de-sobron-miranda.html
http://www.mapama.gob.es/es/desarro...sector-noreste/ebro/etapa11/ebro_etapa11.aspx
The group of us that is dreaming about this route had thought we would get to Haro on the Interior and then cut across to Aguilar on the Olvidado, using the GR-99 as the connector. I have never been to Haro and I know it is a very nice place, so that is the reason, I guess.
Thanks so much for all your help! Buen camino, Laurie
Caminka - Thank you very much for the extra info and the enthusiasm.
Hi, Mike,Caminka - Thank you. For the Olvidado I intend to use the one published by enderjace - https://www.wikiloc.com/hiking-trai...gacervera-y-caminayo-camino-olvidado-15178871 is that what you mean by the new mountain alternative?
Thank you for all the info. Just popped into the forum for a quick look so will check all the detail later. Are enders new tracks on wikioc?Mike, Ender just sent me the new tracks. I have them in separate files, one for each stage. If you (or anyone else) wants me to send them, a PM with your email address is the way to go. I will ask the more tech savvy mods about how to post them in resources, because I can't figure it out.
Ender also told me he is writing a guide to the Olvidado, which I will be happy to translate into English when it is done. It probably won't be done before you leave in September. Have you seen the little thing that Susanna and I did building on Caminka's work? http://www.elcaminoolvidado.com/Camino Olvidado Guide.pdf
Edited to say that I THINK I have posted the tracks on Resources, can anyone verify that? They are in 5 separate documents, because there is a limit to 5 files per resource. Fingers crossed.
Well Laurie you've gone and done it,the tracks are there and I've put them onto my GPS and they seem fine. A few months ago I had downloaded Ender's Camino Olvidado tracks on Wikiloc, onto my laptop. The new tracks in Resources has 10 times as many points as these "old" tracks on Wikiloc. As for Mike's question it looks like Ender has NOW changed all of his tracks of the Camino Olvidado on Wikiloc to the same format as the "new" ones that are in Resources.Mike, Ender just sent me the new tracks. I have them in separate files, one for each stage. If you (or anyone else) wants me to send them, a PM with your email address is the way to go. I will ask the more tech savvy mods about how to post them in resources, because I can't figure it out.
Ender also told me he is writing a guide to the Olvidado, which I will be happy to translate into English when it is done. It probably won't be done before you leave in September. Have you seen the little thing that Susanna and I did building on Caminka's work? http://www.elcaminoolvidado.com/Camino Olvidado Guide.pdf
Edited to say that I THINK I have posted the tracks on Resources, can anyone verify that? They are in 5 separate documents, because there is a limit to 5 files per resource. Fingers crossed.
As for Mike's question it looks like Ender has changed all of his tracks to these new ones. (I just compared 2 of the Wikiloc tracks to the ones now in Resources).Suerte,Mick.
Yes, but I came to this conclusion after comparing only 2 of Enders " new" Wikiloc gpx tracks to the same ones that Peregrina2000 put in Resources and they were identical. In other words I didn't try to compare all the tracks that Peregrina2000 had put in Resources.Do you mean that enders latest tracks are on wikiloc?
Caminka - Thank you. For the Olvidado I intend to use the one published by enderjace - https://www.wikiloc.com/hiking-trai...gacervera-y-caminayo-camino-olvidado-15178871 is that what you mean by the new mountain alternative?
Ender also told me he is writing a guide to the Olvidado, which I will be happy to translate into English when it is done. It probably won't be done before you leave in September.
Hola Laurie, this is an update to my post 28. Only a few of the tracks have 10 times the amount of points than the old tracks. Also you have duplicated the Etapa-16a-17b-Riello-Fasgar.gpx in group IV and group V.Mike, Ender just sent me the new tracks. I have them in separate files, one for each stage. If you (or anyone else) wants me to send them, a PM with your email address is the way to go. I will ask the more tech savvy mods about how to post them in resources, because I can't figure it out.
Ender also told me he is writing a guide to the Olvidado, which I will be happy to translate into English when it is done. It probably won't be done before you leave in September. Have you seen the little thing that Susanna aend I did building on Caminka's work? http://www.elcaminoolvidado.com/Camino Olvidado Guide.pdf
Edited to say that I THINK I have posted the tracks on Resources, can anyone verify that? They are in 5 separate documents, because there is a limit to 5 files per resource. Fingers crossed.
I think this will be my next camino with either the Invierno at the end to SdC or maybe the Frances - depends how I feel when I get to Ponferrada. My intention this year is to start around 12 Sept (I’m currently banned from another spring time walk as everything in the garden grows too fast!). Have gathered info from the various posts in the forum and the only bit I am struggling with is the first couple of days where accommodation choices seem limited. Seems the only choice is walk 25 or 35kms first day to Guenes/Balmaseda and then on to Espinosa de los Monteros which is 43kms from Balmaseda. I don’t particularly mind those distances but would prefer slightly shorter days at the start. Also I don’t want to detour off to Villasana de Mena. Anyone got other options? I see there is a Casa Rural at San Pelayo about 30kms from Balmesada which may be an option although a little pricey!
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