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Camino Portuguese Lisbon>Santiago, April/May (2016)
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Where do you start ? Lisbon or Porto ?Thank you. I have ordered Brierley guide from forum shop - on sale AND free passport. I will use in combo with forum resources and plan itinerary for ~ 20 km stages. So excited my next Camino has begun!
Janice
I will walk Lisbon to SdC. Seems as though there are many different routes especially from Lisbon to Porto. Trying to decide whether to do coast or central from Lisbon to Porto. Think I will do coast starting in Porto?Where do you start ? Lisbon or Porto ?
We walked both in two different years and allways did not walk more than 20 kms a day.
Okay. At this time I do research to the coastal part from Lisbon.I will walk Lisbon to SdC. Seems as though there are many different routes especially from Lisbon to Porto. Trying to decide whether to do coast or central from Lisbon to Porto. Think I will do coast starting in Porto?
Hi. We are, I think, in exactly the same situation as yourself. We completed the Camino Frances last year and have decided to "do" the Portuguese route this year. We are traveling down to Lisbon in early April to start our walk to SdC. Also we are unsure about which route will be best, at the moment we are thinking of doing the central route to Porto and then the coastal from Porto to SdC. However we are also considering the more coastal route from Lisbon.I will walk Lisbon to SdC. Seems as though there are many different routes especially from Lisbon to Porto. Trying to decide whether to do coast or central from Lisbon to Porto. Think I will do coast starting in Porto?
Anyway choosing the coastal from Lisbon you have to be creative because some distances are much more than 20 kms a day or sometimes significantly less !Hi. We are, I think, in exactly the same situation as yourself. We completed the Camino Frances last year and have decided to "do" the Portuguese route this year. We are traveling down to Lisbon in early April to start our walk to SdC. Also we are unsure about which route will be best, at the moment we are thinking of doing the central route to Porto and then the coastal from Porto to SdC. However we are also considering the more coastal route from Lisbon.
There does seem to be a rather bewildering set of options to consider. Being retired, time isn't really a problem, and we don't really want to be walking more than 20km a day very often but know that we can do it if necessary. Perhaps we could compare notes!
All the best in your planning.
Thank you so much for taking the time to assist my Camino. Such a wealth of info, and I will copy and paste. I am sure my planning will come together, and having Brierley's guide and maps will help (they are on the way - thank you Ivar!)Okay. At this time I do research to the coastal part from Lisbon.
You will find excellent information on the subforum caminho do Mar here.
You can start in Cascais or Estoril ,west of Lisbon and walk either to Nazaré at the coast or Fátima more inland . On this part of the caminho are no albergues but only hostals and hotels.
I did not researched further than Nazaré and Fatima because this year we will not go on to Santiago but stay in Portugal. I should say, walk to Fatima and connect from there by bus to Tomar with its world heritage Templars covent -not to be missed !-and hit the central Portuguese caminho from there. From Tomar allmost every stage is around 20 kms to your next place to sleep.
Alvaiazère, Ansiāo,Cernache ,Coimbra-stay there an extra day if you can and visit the famous university with the medieval library and attend a fado rehearsal at 17h00 opposite the cathedral with a glass of portwine.
Further to Mealhada where just past the village is albergue Hilario's in Sernadelo .they serve a local and famous porc dish !
Next place is Águeda, Albergaría a Velha- just outside past the village is the sanctuary Casa Diocesana where you can sleep and nuns treat you well with a diner and breakfast for a few euros per person.
From there to Oliveira de Azameís and Sāo Joā da Madeira .
Your next stage to Porto will be a longer one but you could walk to Grijo and from there to Porto or take public transport from there to Porto.
From Porto all stages are around 20 kms except the coastal detour to Vila do Conde and the last one from Padrón to Santiago.
To Vila do Conde you could walk to Matosinhos first and return back to Porto by metro or bus #500 or take the metro to there -stop Mercado- and start your second part of the Portuguese caminho there.I posted an alternative to Matosinhos at the other bank of the river and take the pedestrian ferry nearby the ocean.
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/cathedral-to-matosinhos.38537/#post-380805
Do not forget to stay at casa da Fernanda between Barcelos and Ponte de Lima.give Fernanda a call on beforehand because specially in The summer months. It can be busy.
+351 914 589 521.
Maybe you see us there because my wife and I will be hospitaleiro at Fernanda's end of june before we return home after our camping and walking journey through Portugal.
Bom caminho
Hi. We are, I think, in exactly the same situation as yourself. We completed the Camino Frances last year and have decided to "do" the Portuguese route this year. We are traveling down to Lisbon in early April to start our walk to SdC. Also we are unsure about which route will be best, at the moment we are thinking of doing the central route to Porto and then the coastal from Porto to SdC. However we are also considering the more coastal route from Lisbon.
There does seem to be a rather bewildering set of options to consider. Being retired, time isn't really a problem, and we don't really want to be walking more than 20km a day very often but know that we can do it if necessary. Perhaps we could compare notes!
All the best in your planning.
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amsimoes
Thanks for the links. It looks like Tomar is side trip and I would need to backtrack to main Camino?
Janice
Hi Laurie!Hi, Janice,
Tomar is right on the "main camino", but I think Aurelio was describing the route you would take if you took a detour to Fátima. Fátima is not on the Caminho and there are lots of threads describing how you could get there and back to the Caminho, either walking or by bus for a visit. Are you planning to go to Fátima?
Tomar's monastery up on the hill, the Convento do Cristo, is an absolute must visit. It's really wonderful. Bom caminho, Laurie
(p.s. I'm assuming you saw the document in Resources on walking shorter stages from Lisbon, because it is not as hard as it may seem!).
Hi Laurie!
I will definitely visit Tomar - do they have beds at Convento do Cristo? I am at the very beginning stage of planning itinerary, and awaiting guide book to help me sort things out. Undecided about Fatima, but based on my first Camino I will lean more toward pilgrim than tourist.
I just booked my flight!and will have 35 days. On my CF I think I averaged ~ 15 miles a day, but I think I am reading there is lot more tarmac on CP? I may skip first 50km and start in Azambuja - what do you think - will I skip a lot of tarmac? I may stay in Lisbon 2 nights to recover from jet-lag and explore Lisbon and then start my Camino.
Thanks Laurie, Bom Caminho
Janice
In Tomar we slept at the Bombeiros Volontarios , the volontairy firebrigade. A big hall with matrasses on the floor, Hot showers. A once in a life experience. Opposite the firestation is a restaurant for your breakfast , called in Portuguese "pequeno almoço or café da manha."No accommodation at Convento do Cristo. Lots of beds, dorm or hotel down in the town. Tomar is a wonderful place to visit. Make sure you have a look at the old Jewish Synagogue in the old part of town.
Hi, originally was planning Euro Peace Walk in June, but have changed my mind and plan to go back to El Camino. I am now scrambling to collect all info, plan to leave April for Camino Portugues and need recommendation for guide book. Finding it difficult to piece together wealth of info on these forums. I printed out some maps, written in Portuguese and the town names do not correlate with what I am seeing on forum. Thank you all. Buen Camino
Janice
Advice. Stay and start in the Santarèm Hostal . Mario is an excellent host .Hi Janice - I am starting the Camino Portuguese on 19th April from Santarem having decided to skip the first part from Lisbon. I will be travelling with Catherine who I met last year whilst walking the Camino Frances. I will look out for you on the way. Best of luck. Jo
Hi Janice - I am starting the Camino Portuguese on 19th April from Santarem having decided to skip the first part from Lisbon. I will be travelling with Catherine who I met last year whilst walking the Camino Frances. I will look out for you on the way. Best of luck. Jo
There is no need to speak Portuguese- most youngsters speak english-lots of people do understand Spanish although they will answer you in Portuguese. Non verbal communication also works . Spanish and Portuguese language are related and till somewhere in the 1200th century it was one language.Have received Brierley guide for CP. Also credencial - glad this was included. Just a few pointers/FYI
It weighs 214 gm (lighter than my Brierley CF guide)
Published 2016, Edition 7
As noted by Brierley "Notes to the 7th edidtion" -
Biggest improvement is addition of Coastal route from Porto
Additional pilgrim hostels Lisbon to Porto
Options to avoid busy road network around Porto
He states - should be undertaken by seasoned pilgrims with ability to speak Portuguese. Hope this part is not true. I am hoping to squeak by on English and Spanish, and only one Camino under my belt, and still have not started my training walks! Also claims about 1/3rd only, is natural pathways. My shins are not going to like all that tarmac!. I think I read on forum that more natural pathways are opening up, so I will see.
Thanks to all,
Janice
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