Regarding Denise Theim and ALL of the Peregrinos who have died on Camino...

RumAndChupacabras

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• Mar 17, 2019

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The beauty (and sometimes the bane) about this AMAZING Community is the mass/volume of information.
That said, Is it possible to get an update on 'shells for Denise'?...are shells still being accepted?...if so, where (the Pilgrim's Office? At The Tree?). Also, is there something set up in place for us to honor ALL of those Camino brother's and Sister's who have given up Soul whilst on Camino?

@ivar , @peregrina2000 , @Kanga ...

 

Rebekah Scott

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• Mar 17, 2019

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The Pilgrim Memorial Grove in Valdeiglesias, right outside of Astorga, is home to the Denise Theim memorial tree, (still heaped with shells from everywhere), and plaques and trees in honor or five other pilgrims who died along the Ways. There is no generalized memorial that I know of.

 

RumAndChupacabras

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• Mar 18, 2019

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Thank you so much, @Rebekah Scott !

 

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• Mar 18, 2019

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Natefaith or Rebekah will correct me if I am wrong, but, in the past, they have collected commemorative shells, etc. destined for this memorial at the Pilgrim House, Rua Nova #19. Somehow, the shells have found their way out to the memorial tree just west of Astorga.

Hope this helps.

 

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RumAndChupacabras

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• Mar 18, 2019

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@t2andreo 'they' being, the Pilgrims Office?

 

t2andreo

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• Mar 18, 2019

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I edited my post. Typing on an iPhone with one thumb is not easy for me...

 

RumAndChupacabras

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• Mar 18, 2019

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t2andreo said:

I edited my post. Typing on an iPhone with one thumb is not easy for me...

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No problemo, Jefe!

 

VNwalking

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• Mar 18, 2019

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RumAndChupacabras said:

'they' being, the Pilgrims Office?

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No, it was Pilgrim House, and all the shells they collected are now at Denise's tree outside of Astorga.

t2andreo said:

Somehow, the shells have found their way out to the memorial tree just west of Astorga.

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'Somehow' was @Peter Fransiscus , who very kindly took them there from Santiago.
At this point, anyone walking the Frances can leave their shells there directly.
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RumAndChupacabras

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• Mar 18, 2019

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@VNwalking ...this! Thank you. I read a thread or more about @Peter Fransiscus taking them but, it was not clear to me just exactly what that meant (ie, no further acceptance of shells).

 

t2andreo

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• Mar 18, 2019

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As far as I know, shells are still being accepted.

 

RumAndChupacabras

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• Mar 18, 2019

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t2andreo said:

As far as I know, shells are still being accepted.

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Oh! Well then, I guess I still need to find out from @ivar or a Mod if Pilgrim House still accepts shells.

 

VNwalking

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• Mar 18, 2019

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@natefaith , are you still accepting shells for Denise at PH? I was assuming not, and @t2andreo says yes. He's probably right, but just checking....

 

natefaith

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• Mar 19, 2019

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@RumAndChupacabras yes, we can still accept shells for Denise at Pilgrim House, especially if people want to walk with their memorial shell all the way to Santiago.

Buen Camino!
Faith

 

VNwalking

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• Mar 19, 2019

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How wonderful. There will be people who have not had the chance to walk since 2015, and who will want to leave a shell...Thank you, Faith!

 

RumAndChupacabras

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• Mar 19, 2019

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natefaith said:

@RumAndChupacabras yes, we can still accept shells for Denise at Pilgrim House..

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LUV this, Faith! Thank you.
Thank you @VNwalking for asking!

 

Rebekah Scott

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• Mar 23, 2019

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Depending on which party wins in the next Astorga municipal elections, the Memorial Park may get a real boost later this year. Or not!

 

VNwalking

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• Jun 10, 2020

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With covid overturning normalcy as it has, this may have gotten pushed into the back cupboard. But inquiring minds want to know - Was there a boost? Or not?

Rebekah Scott said:

Depending on which party wins in the next Astorga municipal elections, the Memorial Park may get a real boost later this year. Or not!

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Rebekah Scott

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• Jun 12, 2020

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VNwalking said:

With covid overturning normalcy as it has, this may have gotten pushed into the back cupboard. But inquiring minds want to know - Was there a boost? Or not?

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I gathered some PPI friends in the district and we met with THREE city council members, one of whom is a member of the Astorga Amigos group that runs the big albergue! They informed us of several important changes, I posited a redesigned wall for the memorial plaques, everyone was in agreement that the park will be much improved over this summer.
That was 24 February. On 14 March we started shutting down the camino. On 20 March I sent some rough Memorial Grove architectual drawings (from a real architect!) to all the group members, but everyone agreed that Astorga Council was too embroiled in crisis matters to bother with a park just now.

And so it continues. Astorga is still very embroiled.
Poco a poco.
Spain is no place for people in a hurry.

 

VNwalking

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• Jun 12, 2020

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Rebekah Scott said:

Astorga is still very embroiled.

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That that is sad to hear. Everyone will need bushels of patience to deal with this pandemic - it will not obediently disappear when we feel like we're done with it.

Rebekah Scott said:

one of whom is a member of the Astorga Amigos group that runs the big albergue!

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That's super news. Once the dust settles, and they can think about parks again, it's great to know there is an amigo in a position to make decisions.
Thanks for reporting back!