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Inded!...i confess to be a pilgrim through and through and hopefully I die as an old pilgrim under my backpack.
Dennis
All are good arguments. Wise.I walked the Francés several times and will do so again in the future. It was a completely different Camino every time. If you still feel called to the same route, maybe there's a reason.
You could try some little changes: stay in different towns than before, different albergues. Walk variations (for example into Burgos, out of Leon... Valcarlos instead of Route Napoleon...). If you mainly stayed in private albergues before, try parroquial ones - or the other way around. Always had the pilgrims menu the first time? Maybe cook together with other pilgrims sometimes this time. And so on.
Just don't expect it to be the same, accept it the way it is. If you realize it's not working for you en route, you can still take a bus/train to a different location and continue from there (Primitivo, Norte...).
Have you ever have a memory or sensation that was so fleeting that it was there one moment then gone the next? I've experienced that frequently and try to hold on to it without success. Like the familiar scent of rose scented soap that my mother used to wash her hands.so this is my camino history
- start CF Oct 2018, but as a result of bad footwear choices and an undiagnosed medical condition (early stage Parkinson's which affected my energy levels) I made it only as far as Santo Domingo
- start Santo Domingo Oct 2021, complete the CF November, this time with better footwear choices and the right meds. Like most pilgrims, the experience was transformative.
- Over the holidays, I booked a RT flight to Spain, using mostly miles. Would give me ~24 days on the ground. My goal would be to start SJPP, walk was far as I can.
As I was shovelling snow for the 3rd time in 10 days, though, I'm wondering if I'm trying to recreate that which cannot be re-created? I remember having this discussion with a friend of the camino, and she said she would only do a new route for this reason. Second timers and others, is this an issue, and how does one approach it with fresh eyes?
The secret is to not even compare your Caminosso this is my camino history
- start CF Oct 2018, but as a result of bad footwear choices and an undiagnosed medical condition (early stage Parkinson's which affected my energy levels) I made it only as far as Santo Domingo
- start Santo Domingo Oct 2021, complete the CF November, this time with better footwear choices and the right meds. Like most pilgrims, the experience was transformative.
- Over the holidays, I booked a RT flight to Spain, using mostly miles. Would give me ~24 days on the ground. My goal would be to start SJPP, walk was far as I can.
As I was shovelling snow for the 3rd time in 10 days, though, I'm wondering if I'm trying to recreate that which cannot be re-created? I remember having this discussion with a friend of the camino, and she said she would only do a new route for this reason. Second timers and others, is this an issue, and how does one approach it with fresh eyes?
To me, walking the same Camino again is like listening to a favourite song again or eating a favourite dish again. I can understand people who want to experience other Caminos. I don't only listen ever to one song. I sometimes like trying new music. But I have a harder time understanding people who say they will never walk the same route again. It's like listening to a song and saying "That's an excellent song! It has got to be one of my favourites. I never want to hear it again!"so this is my camino history
- start CF Oct 2018, but as a result of bad footwear choices and an undiagnosed medical condition (early stage Parkinson's which affected my energy levels) I made it only as far as Santo Domingo
- start Santo Domingo Oct 2021, complete the CF November, this time with better footwear choices and the right meds. Like most pilgrims, the experience was transformative.
- Over the holidays, I booked a RT flight to Spain, using mostly miles. Would give me ~24 days on the ground. My goal would be to start SJPP, walk was far as I can.
As I was shovelling snow for the 3rd time in 10 days, though, I'm wondering if I'm trying to recreate that which cannot be re-created? I remember having this discussion with a friend of the camino, and she said she would only do a new route for this reason. Second timers and others, is this an issue, and how does one approach it with fresh eyes?
I've done the CF twice and totally different experiences. Different people,different weather, different heart. Each morning when I put on my backpack and took that first step, it was a brand new day. Enjoy your second time around.so this is my camino history
- start CF Oct 2018, but as a result of bad footwear choices and an undiagnosed medical condition (early stage Parkinson's which affected my energy levels) I made it only as far as Santo Domingo
- start Santo Domingo Oct 2021, complete the CF November, this time with better footwear choices and the right meds. Like most pilgrims, the experience was transformative.
- Over the holidays, I booked a RT flight to Spain, using mostly miles. Would give me ~24 days on the ground. My goal would be to start SJPP, walk was far as I can.
As I was shovelling snow for the 3rd time in 10 days, though, I'm wondering if I'm trying to recreate that which cannot be re-created? I remember having this discussion with a friend of the camino, and she said she would only do a new route for this reason. Second timers and others, is this an issue, and how does one approach it with fresh eyes?
Exactly!! Could not have said it better myself!To paraphrase: the pilgrim cannot walk the same Camino. It is always the same road but it is never the same pilgrim
sorry to hear that. hopefully your change leads to a more satisfying experience. If you get a chance please updateI have walked the CF and CP before and loved it. Right now I am doing Camino Norte and hating it. Cold, rain, albergues are closed, no fellow travellers, that’s just not for me. Switching to the CF now, but maybe the magic is just gone.
Si. And even when it is the same road it is never the same Camino.To paraphrase: the pilgrim cannot walk the same Camino. It is always the same road but it is never the same pilgrim
Or maybe it’s because you are walking out of season.maybe the magic is just gone.
Hope it gets better. Let us know.I have walked the CF and CP before and loved it. Right now I am doing Camino Norte and hating it. Cold, rain, albergues are closed, no fellow travellers, that’s just not for me. Switching to the CF now, but maybe the magic is just gone.
Yes, I think you are right about that. The meeting other pelgrims is a must for me.Or maybe it’s because you are walking out of season.
It happened to me too – the magic had gone.
When I analysed it after I got home I realised it was because I missed meeting the other pilgrims.
It is about the people who are on the same path as you – and they are different every time.
Hey,so this is my camino history
- start CF Oct 2018, but as a result of bad footwear choices and an undiagnosed medical condition (early stage Parkinson's which affected my energy levels) I made it only as far as Santo Domingo
- start Santo Domingo Oct 2021, complete the CF November, this time with better footwear choices and the right meds. Like most pilgrims, the experience was transformative.
- Over the holidays, I booked a RT flight to Spain, using mostly miles. Would give me ~24 days on the ground. My goal would be to start SJPP, walk was far as I can.
As I was shovelling snow for the 3rd time in 10 days, though, I'm wondering if I'm trying to recreate that which cannot be re-created? I remember having this discussion with a friend of the camino, and she said she would only do a new route for this reason. Second timers and others, is this an issue, and how does one approach it with fresh eyes?
Ah, that doesn’t always work eitherIf I ever do another Camino it will be in the summer again
Walking solo, deep in thought, I found that my mind skipped unnoticed over places that had been so special to me the first time, and I instead noticed places that I had "never" seen before. The route was known, but the points along the way were somehow, new.
Ah, that doesn’t always work either. There are SO many pilgrims walking in summer, that you become part of the crowd
this experience was provided from the universe just for you....now look what for.Yes, I think you are right about that. The meeting other pelgrims is a must for me.
I decided to go home for now. If I ever do another Camino it will be in the summer again
The good news for you is the 3rd time is the charm...Third time's the charm means the third attempt to do something will succeed, because the number three is considered lucky. ... Third time's the charm is a phrase that is used when a third attempt succeeds; the phrase is also used as an affirmation before one begins the third attempt at something.so this is my camino history
- start CF Oct 2018, but as a result of bad footwear choices and an undiagnosed medical condition (early stage Parkinson's which affected my energy levels) I made it only as far as Santo Domingo
- start Santo Domingo Oct 2021, complete the CF November, this time with better footwear choices and the right meds. Like most pilgrims, the experience was transformative.
- Over the holidays, I booked a RT flight to Spain, using mostly miles. Would give me ~24 days on the ground. My goal would be to start SJPP, walk was far as I can.
As I was shovelling snow for the 3rd time in 10 days, though, I'm wondering if I'm trying to recreate that which cannot be re-created? I remember having this discussion with a friend of the camino, and she said she would only do a new route for this reason. Second timers and others, is this an issue, and how does one approach it with fresh eyes?
The first one is always remembered fondest, but the ones that follow are always different.so this is my camino history
- start CF Oct 2018, but as a result of bad footwear choices and an undiagnosed medical condition (early stage Parkinson's which affected my energy levels) I made it only as far as Santo Domingo
- start Santo Domingo Oct 2021, complete the CF November, this time with better footwear choices and the right meds. Like most pilgrims, the experience was transformative.
- Over the holidays, I booked a RT flight to Spain, using mostly miles. Would give me ~24 days on the ground. My goal would be to start SJPP, walk was far as I can.
As I was shovelling snow for the 3rd time in 10 days, though, I'm wondering if I'm trying to recreate that which cannot be re-created? I remember having this discussion with a friend of the camino, and she said she would only do a new route for this reason. Second timers and others, is this an issue, and how does one approach it with fresh eyes?
I have several solutions. Let me explain…so this is my camino history
- start CF Oct 2018, but as a result of bad footwear choices and an undiagnosed medical condition (early stage Parkinson's which affected my energy levels) I made it only as far as Santo Domingo
- start Santo Domingo Oct 2021, complete the CF November, this time with better footwear choices and the right meds. Like most pilgrims, the experience was transformative.
- Over the holidays, I booked a RT flight to Spain, using mostly miles. Would give me ~24 days on the ground. My goal would be to start SJPP, walk was far as I can.
As I was shovelling snow for the 3rd time in 10 days, though, I'm wondering if I'm trying to recreate that which cannot be re-created? I remember having this discussion with a friend of the camino, and she said she would only do a new route for this reason. Second timers and others, is this an issue, and how does one approach it with fresh eyes?
Excellent variation pilgrim and I love your flexibility. I too hope to walk a Camino with one of my adult children (or grandchildren) as my 3 to date have been the CF with my wife (she is one of the rare ones who didn't like it), the Portuguese Coastal solo (loved that route), and the Sanabres with buddies (good camaraderie). My guess is I'll do my next solo and let the chips fall as they may.I have several solutions. Let me explain…
I have walked the entire CF 3 times. The first time I did the classic stages as per the guidebook by Milan Bravo Lozano. I attached myself to a “family” and for the most part stayed within that pod for the entire Camino. That was in 2008. I did not use a cell phone or any other electronics. I stayed only at albergues.
I returned to the Camino in 2009 this time determined to not duplicate. I had daily maps drawn up with all the alternativo’s and took them as they came up. I also stayed at different lodgings including pensions and tourist houses from time to time which turned out to be once a week. I also stayed extra days in Burgos and Leon and did what pilgrims do in their spare time. That is I walked about the city especially the old towns. These actions precluded staying in a group and although I saw some of the same people by design and desire I did not walk within a group.
In 2011 I did the Camino del norte the same way.
In 2014 I returned to the Francés with no pre plan at all. I just started walking and stopped when I felt like it. If I wanted to take an alternate route I did. Accommodations were varied. I stayed in all sorts from donativo’s to 5 star hotels. I was for the most part on my own but from time to time enjoyed some peoples company for a day or two then I either stopped for an extra day or increased my pace as circumstances dictated.
Things I did repeat on all of my pilgrimages is that I took lots of photos. I went to the pilgrims mass. I visited the market. I walked to Fisterre. I bought the t-shirt, the coffee cup or something from the flea market to support the locals.
I also presented myself with a 4-5 day settling period as a reward. Porto, Lisbon, Madrid, Granada and Paris. Of the 9 soloo completed Camino’s I have excellent memories and could not pick one as a favourite . The Portuguese I did once with my adult daughter in 2017. If I had to chose a favourite that would be it.
Buen Camino
Bom Caminho
Bon Chemin
I walked the Camino Frances in summer 1990. Like you I loved the solitude. For me the Camino Frances has now changed beyond recognition and I can no longer find the experiences which I so much valued there. I find much of the commercialism of the Frances these days depressing and distasteful and frankly I consider it a lost cause. I have never walked the Camino del Norte so cannot comment on it. I am walking the Via de la Plata for the second time at the moment and thoroughly enjoying it. A couple of years ago I walked the Camino Mozarabe from Malaga and found that an excellent route too. Far more to my taste these days.Since 1990 I dream of walking a second Camino and this time on my own (if there is something like ön your own"on the Camino). I know I have to be realistic and a lot has changed in the past 30 years, but I fear disappointment and the loss of a dream. I'm not a crowdloving-person; that was why I did the Camino the first time.
Just did my first camino from SJPP this year in 32 days with no rest days and want to do it again in 2024. Just researching on what people thought when they walked a second time. Reading your comments those are some of the things I want to do, like walk Valcarlos route this time and do a lot of variations like Samos. I only walked one variant last time, the river route into Burgos. Definitely would like to stay at some different towns. And above all I'll be able to take more time and some rest days that I could not the first time because I had a job to get back. Just retired in September so time is now not an issue. I had one of the best times of my life and met a lot of great people on my first camino but I don't want that to be my expectations for my next one. I will make it a new experience with new people to meet.I walked the Francés several times and will do so again in the future. It was a completely different Camino every time. If you still feel called to the same route, maybe there's a reason.
You could try some little changes: stay in different towns than before, different albergues. Walk variations (for example into Burgos, out of Leon... Valcarlos instead of Route Napoleon...). If you mainly stayed in private albergues before, try parroquial ones - or the other way around. Always had the pilgrims menu the first time? Maybe cook together with other pilgrims sometimes this time. And so on.
Just don't expect it to be the same, accept it the way it is. If you realize it's not working for you en route, you can still take a bus/train to a different location and continue from there (Primitivo, Norte...).
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