Charles Ross
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- Two people to walk the Camino de Santiago in the spring of (2018)
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I don’t know what kind of tests these were, but I know several people in my town who tested negative several times with home tests, but had lots of symptoms. When they took a PCR test, lo and behold, they tested positive. I’m not sure if it was the time delay or the antigen vs. PCR feature, but in any event, you might consider more testing.Two Covid tests, both negative.
Yes, but it was the person just on the other side of the wall. , different cubicle who had the cough. We don’t know. Maybe we didn’t catch it there at all. I know people walking the Napoleon route are perhaps not making the best decisions when they reach Roncelvalles. Probably the thought process is pretty much ‘cold, tired, bed, sleep’I’m surprised they put you together in Roncesvalles. Did they put 4 pilgrims in each cubicle?
Very true. When my older daughter got covid she showed symptoms but tested negative the first time and a day later tested positive.I don’t know what kind of tests these were, but I know several people in my town who tested negative several times with home tests, but had lots of symptoms. When they took a PCR test, lo and behold, they tested positive. I’m not sure if it was the time delay or the antigen vs. PCR feature, but in any event, you might consider more testing.
Wishing you a very quick and complete recovery, buen camino!
I know someone who took five days to show positive! Home kits are good as an indicator but not 100% reliable.Very true. When my older daughter got covid she showed symptoms but tested negative the first time and a day later tested positive.
sorry to hear that make sure you seek medical help.We are in Pamplona and we are sick!!! Not sick of carrying a backpack but so sick that we cannot walk any distance with that pack
Respiratory, lots of coughing, very sore throat, weakness, dizziness. Two Covid tests, both negative. I think we acquired the illness, bacterial or viral, in Roncelvalles. I had the top bunk and the gentleman next to me had that same deep cough. The last time I was this sick was, probably not coincidence, my 2018 Camino. I’m a big, strong person and now both of us have been reduced to little pussy CC cats. Going forward we will be in Pamplona for 2 more days and then ramp up the distance traveled each day.
It may be advisable to wear a mask at night when in a room with someone exhibiting symptoms of anything.
It is glorious out here and we can’t wait for the walk up to Alto del Perdon! Buen Camino.
Yes, we are now allowed to use the full capacity of the albergue, which means indeed 4 persons in one cubicle. Next Wednesday it is no longer mandatory to wear mouthmasks. These are all rules by the Gouvernment, we just follow the rules.I’m surprised they put you together in Roncesvalles. Did they put 4 pilgrims in each cubicle?
I am sorry for your experience but I love and envy your attitude. Peaceful rest for now, buen Camino in your near future.Much good advice here. Thank you all. We did sleep communal the first night. We just did not fully appreciate what we were going through. Private room since. We still have 43 days before we fly home so when we resume we will start slowly.
Yes we considered that the test was a false negative, but we each had the test and the redundancy suggested to me that we are Covid free.
Sometimes when you are on an adventure, it’s not always pleasant, like, if you wanted to have an “adventure” by doing your first parachute jump and your chute doesn’t quite open. It’s still an adventure, right?
Maybe not the best analogy.
I, and my staff, test people all the time. This is VERY common! It is also very common to test positive with just ONE symptom. If fact - happened to me! I had both my Vaccine doses plus a booster. Omicron hit. One day - I had a mild sore throat. Tested. Negative. Tested again the following day. Positive. Didn't get other symptoms for another day or two. I saw this much moreso with Omicron than earlier variants. This is why I always tell people to test - even with 1 symptom - and if negative and still symptomatic - test again the following day. Even still - some people only test positive with a PCR test. Especially with rapid tests - false negatives can and do occur. Anyhow - sharing dorm rooms is fine, when healthy. But if anyone has any symptoms (of anything contagious - not just COVID) - should move to a private room and take a COVID test.Very true. When my older daughter got covid she showed symptoms but tested negative the first time and a day later tested positive.
I, and my staff, test people all the time. This is VERY common! It is also very common to test positive with just ONE symptom. If fact - happened to me! I had both my Vaccine doses plus a booster. Omicron hit. One day - I had a mild sore throat. Tested. Negative. Tested again the following day. Positive. Didn't get other symptoms for another day or two. I saw this much moreso with Omicron than earlier variants. This is why I always tell people to test - even with 1 symptom - and if negative and still symptomatic - test again the following day. Even still - some people only test positive with a PCR test. Especially with rapid tests - false negatives can and do occur. Anyhow - sharing dorm rooms is fine, when healthy. But if anyone has any symptoms (of anything contagious - not just COVID) - should move to a private room and take a COVID test.
YES! And if you had a sore throat - I would hope they test for COVID, Influenza, and Strep! Now that masks are less prevalent - all the other usual offenders are surging again.Or in my case to weeks ago when I was convinced that finally Covid hit me and GP tested. Negative on Covid but positive for Influenza. So relieved they did test for Influenza too.
Then I ended at ER because of complication of Influenza ( yup a simple flu can become funky ) and then of course I got tested again for Covid before I got a bed on a ward.
Again negative luckily but glad they were so thourough.
Home again now.
That is such a bummer! So sorry! I’m on day 11 of a bad cold but I don’t leave for my Camino for a month. I took two home tests that were negative. Doctor gave me another test and it was negative too. Just a really bad cold/cough!We are in Pamplona and we are sick!!! Not sick of carrying a backpack but so sick that we cannot walk any distance with that pack
Respiratory, lots of coughing, very sore throat, weakness, dizziness. Two Covid tests, both negative. I think we acquired the illness, bacterial or viral, in Roncelvalles. I had the top bunk and the gentleman next to me had that same deep cough. The last time I was this sick was, probably not coincidence, my 2018 Camino. I’m a big, strong person and now both of us have been reduced to little pussy CC cats. Going forward we will be in Pamplona for 2 more days and then ramp up the distance traveled each day.
It may be advisable to wear a mask at night when in a room with someone exhibiting symptoms of anything.
It is glorious out here and we can’t wait for the walk up to Alto del Perdon! Buen Camino.
That is such a bummer! So sorry! I’m on day 11 of a bad cold but I don’t leave for my Camino for a month. I took two home tests that were negative. Doctor gave me another test and it was negative too. Just a really bad cold/cough!
Hope you both are getting better!Or in my case to weeks ago when I was convinced that finally Covid hit me and GP tested. Negative on Covid but positive for Influenza. So relieved they did test for Influenza too.
Then I ended at ER because of complication of Influenza ( yup a simple flu can become funky ) and then of course I got tested again for Covid before I got a bed on a ward.
Again negative luckily but glad they were so thourough.
Home again now.
After exposure to covid, test turn positive between 3-7 days, but 5 is ysually the magic number. If your at home tests are meg on day 5, but you still have a lot of symptom, consider getting a PCR test (you can go online, to pharmacies, or ask locals where PCR testing can be done). Internal Medicine hospital doctor.We are in Pamplona and we are sick!!! Not sick of carrying a backpack but so sick that we cannot walk any distance with that pack
Respiratory, lots of coughing, very sore throat, weakness, dizziness. Two Covid tests, both negative. I think we acquired the illness, bacterial or viral, in Roncelvalles. I had the top bunk and the gentleman next to me had that same deep cough. The last time I was this sick was, probably not coincidence, my 2018 Camino. I’m a big, strong person and now both of us have been reduced to little pussy CC cats. Going forward we will be in Pamplona for 2 more days and then ramp up the distance traveled each day.
It may be advisable to wear a mask at night when in a room with someone exhibiting symptoms of anything.
It is glorious out here and we can’t wait for the walk up to Alto del Perdon! Buen Camino.
Sorry you are not feeling well, but may I suggest that after a few days rest you do not ramp up the distance but have a few days of walking less and resting more to allow what is ailing you to clear your system, pushing yourself may put you on your back again. Hope all goes well. This advice comes from a person who pushed themself and end up 8 days n hospital...We are in Pamplona and we are sick!!! Not sick of carrying a backpack but so sick that we cannot walk any distance with that pack
Respiratory, lots of coughing, very sore throat, weakness, dizziness. Two Covid tests, both negative. I think we acquired the illness, bacterial or viral, in Roncelvalles. I had the top bunk and the gentleman next to me had that same deep cough. The last time I was this sick was, probably not coincidence, my 2018 Camino. I’m a big, strong person and now both of us have been reduced to little pussy CC cats. Going forward we will be in Pamplona for 2 more days and then ramp up the distance traveled each day.
It may be advisable to wear a mask at night when in a room with someone exhibiting symptoms of anything.
It is glorious out here and we can’t wait for the walk up to Alto del Perdon! Buen Camino.
You may want to go to the pharmacy and see if they will give you something. The same thing happened to me in St. Jean. A fellow pilgrim was coughing his head off. I got very sick and went to a pharmacy. They gave me some kind of powdered med I was instructed to put in water and drink. Got 3 or 4 packets. It worked! Never found put what it was and I did not care!We are in Pamplona and we are sick!!! Not sick of carrying a backpack but so sick that we cannot walk any distance with that pack
Respiratory, lots of coughing, very sore throat, weakness, dizziness. Two Covid tests, both negative. I think we acquired the illness, bacterial or viral, in Roncelvalles. I had the top bunk and the gentleman next to me had that same deep cough. The last time I was this sick was, probably not coincidence, my 2018 Camino. I’m a big, strong person and now both of us have been reduced to little pussy CC cats. Going forward we will be in Pamplona for 2 more days and then ramp up the distance traveled each day.
It may be advisable to wear a mask at night when in a room with someone exhibiting symptoms of anything.
It is glorious out here and we can’t wait for the walk up to Alto del Perdon! Buen Camino.
Indeed, in numerous European countries including Spain there is currently a noticeable increase of flu cases, so being in close contact and mixing with pilgrims from Spain as well as from these countries is on opportunity to catch this or another ARI. Countries have a flu sentinel surveillance system and I have just checked Spain's website (tab Informes Semanales) for the current week 14/2022 which confirms this increase. I merely mention this for info because the winter months are already behind us and we are in the middle of April where we usually don't expect this.My son and family live in southern France. The whole family had Type A flu, tested negative for Covid, the first two weeks of April. It was spreading through the entire village, and probably via school kids. Could be the flu is in Spain too.
That's not necessarily true.If you were exposed to something in Roncesvalles and you're in Pamplona 2 days later it's unlikely you'd have symptoms yet. Whatever you have you probably picked it up at least a week ago.
It’s a negative PCR report!! Tomorrow we are just going to walk the three miles from here to Cizur Menur, overnight there, and then get back to normal distance (for us about 16-17 Km. Thank you All for your kind words! C n K.An Update. We are awaiting the results of a PCR test; still In Pamplona and feeling better and Better.
I did have a scary experience yesterday. Long coughing fit, small sip of water, and my airways had tightened up so much I could not swallow it for several seconds. Never had that happen.
If you want a good, higher end place to overnight here in Pamplona, the Catedral Hotel is great!! It’s right around the corner from Jesu e Maria municipal. We came by at 8:00 AM with reservation a couple of days ago, seeking to store packs for a 2:00 check-in . . . They took one look at us and said ‘here’s your key’. Who does that?
It’s about 75 E a night during the week.
When we get our results, PCR, I’ll post them and then, we at least, will be done with this subject.
Great news!It’s a negative PCR report!! Tomorrow we are just going to walk the three miles from here to Cizur Menur, overnight there, and then get back to normal distance (for us about 16-17 Km. Thank you All for your kind words! C n K.
Great news. I am sure you have peace of mind after the PCR test. Stay away from communal sleeping if there is not sufficient distancing and airflow. Buen Camino. Stay healthy!It’s a negative PCR report!! Tomorrow we are just going to walk the three miles from here to Cizur Menur, overnight there, and then get back to normal distance (for us about 16-17 Km. Thank you All for your kind words! C n K.
That's great news for you both! Just a word of caution about Cizur Menor - maybe call ahead to where you want to stay, as recent reports have indicated the albergues there have been closed. I think one of them is now open but best to check. But not sure there are private rooms there if you are still wanting those. If nothing is available there, you could walk across to Zizur Maior, just over the highway, there are hotels there. It's about another 1km walk. Buen Camino!It’s a negative PCR report!! Tomorrow we are just going to walk the three miles from here to Cizur Menur, overnight there, and then get back to normal distance (for us about 16-17 Km. Thank you All for your kind words! C n K.
Wonderful news! All the best for a continuing healthy camino!It’s a negative PCR report!! Tomorrow we are just going to walk the three miles from here to Cizur Menur, overnight there, and then get back to normal distance (for us about 16-17 Km. Thank you All for your kind words! C n K.
A good report from you. We indeed did walk through Cizur Menor and, yes, the two Albergues there are closed. We walked about 15 minutes to the Hotel Vas Cizur. Met a few disappointed walkers and cyclists. Tomorrow we have a route that triangles back over to the Camino just below Zariquiguei from their onto Uterga.That's great news for you both! Just a word of caution about Cizur Menor - maybe call ahead to where you want to stay, as recent reports have indicated the albergues there have been closed. I think one of them is now open but best to check. But not sure there are private rooms there if you are still wanting those. If nothing is available there, you could walk across to Zizur Maior, just over the highway, there are hotels there. It's about another 1km walk. Buen Camino!
Late to the party, and I see you're picking up strength. Good! Here was my post anyway, and maybe it will help someone.Thanks again to all who added their thoughts. As I said above, we both took the quick, 10 minute antigen test at a pharmacy; tested negative. I’m reading, though, that the overnight molecular test IS somewhat (?) more accurate.
When we got the results we reasoned that we were sick beginning on different days and because both results were negative it was a pretty good double test of our conditions. If one of our results was positive, we would have assumed we were both infected.
Where do we stand now? Symptoms diminishing slowly, sore throat, me none, my Karen a little bit, less shaky, less dizziness. We will go slow if we start tomorrow, going only to San Andreas Albergue 2-3 miles I think. I’ll make sure they have something private. Rain starting tomorrow maybe. We have a lot of money resources at this point in life so don’t feel too sorry for us
I can’t get past the fact that the last time we both felt this bad was about 3-4 days west of Leon in 2018; same symptoms!
Thanks again. We have friends at home to whom we have written about our travails and they basically write ‘bummer’ in response! Maybe we need new friends.
Go to the hospital there. I got vertigo in Pamplona and went to the ER and they took me right in, gave me a head to toe once over, wrote a prescription and went to the pharmacy right around the corner, [aid the one Euro for the pills and was good to!We are in Pamplona and we are sick!!! Not sick of carrying a backpack but so sick that we cannot walk any distance with that pack
Respiratory, lots of coughing, very sore throat, weakness, dizziness. Two Covid tests, both negative. I think we acquired the illness, bacterial or viral, in Roncelvalles. I had the top bunk and the gentleman next to me had that same deep cough. The last time I was this sick was, probably not coincidence, my 2018 Camino. I’m a big, strong person and now both of us have been reduced to little pussy CC cats. Going forward we will be in Pamplona for 2 more days and then ramp up the distance traveled each day.
It may be advisable to wear a mask at night when in a room with someone exhibiting symptoms of anything.
It is glorious out here and we can’t wait for the walk up to Alto del Perdon! Buen Camino.
Upthread @Charles Ross reported that they have received medical attention and are on the mend.Go to the hospital there. I got vertigo in Pamplona and went to the ER and they took me right in, gave me a head to toe once over, wrote a prescription and went to the pharmacy right around the corner, [aid the one Euro for the pills and was good to!
Wishing you both a speedy recovery.
I wouldn't bank on being able to 'ramp up the distance' each day though. Even if you are strong people, respiratory illnesses take a toll.
As someone prone to chest infections (usually related to TCS...Tin Can Syndrome..lurgies caught on the long haul flight) & therefore very familiar with the effect they have on your body, IMHO, easing off the throttle, at least those first few days back on the trail, sounds more realistic for your overall well-being.
Love the enthusiasm but don't underestimate the impact of the illness & be prepared to adapt accordingly!
Good luck & keep us posted!
How are you doing? As you can see, many are willing you to walk well...It’s a negative PCR report!! Tomorrow we are just going to walk the three miles from here to Cizur Menur, overnight there, and then get back to normal distance (for us about 16-17 Km. Thank you All for your kind words! C n K.
It was full on our floor last week... but I have to say that even last September they had more than 2 in a cubicle. We questioned it and said we (two) pilgrims should be alone because of the 50% rule but they insisted it was OK for another to join us.I’m surprised they put you together in Roncesvalles. Did they put 4 pilgrims in each cubicle?
I recently had covid. It started as a normal sore throat. I tested negative on on day 2 and day 4. I got very unwell on day 5 but by day 7 was a lot better. As I was due back at work the following day I took another test, which turned out to be positive. I’ve since spoken to a number of people who reported testing negative while feeling ill and positive when they felt better.That is such a bummer! So sorry! I’m on day 11 of a bad cold but I don’t leave for my Camino for a month. I took two home tests that were negative. Doctor gave me another test and it was negative too. Just a really bad cold/cough!
Oh wow! I had three tests…all negative. I’m finally better after 2+weeks. Maybe I did have it!I recently had covid. It started as a normal sore throat. I tested negative on on day 2 and day 4. I got very unwell on day 5 but by day 7 was a lot better. As I was due back at work the following day I took another test, which turned out to be positive. I’ve since spoken to a number of people who reported testing negative while feeling ill and positive when they felt better.
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