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This might help: http://www.caminodesantiagotiempo.com/We are starting from Madrid on the 11th March to do a maximum of 12 days , thanks for the advice & any other info would be welcome . This is our first attempt & this section is one area of concern for me , I have been searching for webcams / weather reports for the area but unable to find any snow reports , thanks Tony
@Latecomer this is the post about snow on crossing the Guadarrama ridge which is on Camino de Madrid and Stephen Jones (Frances) and Sara Dhooma (VdlP) are on completely different Caminos. Not to compare.Regarding show, Stephen Jones's VLOG post from today shows it between Estella and Los Arcos. Glad I'm not there!
He has a playlist of his Camino which began on 24 or 25 February 2018 from SJPDP.
Quite entertaining. I need something to look forward to everyday since Sara Dhooma's VdlP Camino will be wrapping up soon! ¡Buen Camino!
Hello, Froggy,We are six 70 year olds from Australia (men) setting off from Madrid on the 1 April. we are also hopping for a bit of snow. (austraila is lacking in the white stuff!
Hi TonyWe are starting from Madrid on the 11th March to do a maximum of 12 days , thanks for the advice & any other info would be welcome . This is our first attempt & this section is one area of concern for me , I have been searching for webcams / weather reports for the area but unable to find any snow reports , thanks Tony
I don't think the pass is dangerous in snow as it would be with fresh snow in the Alps. It would take a lot of energy to wade through the snow and you'd lost a lot of energy needed for (not so steep) descend. Exhausted and maybe even a bit of hypothermia could be fatal even on this altitude. Add temperatures and late afternoon with lower visibility and there you have problems. I know that in my climbing years I could've had run over this pass even in almost waist deep snow but now...Hi Tony
We are in a similar position but setting off a bit later. Mar 23 from Madrid. If the pass is considered too dangerous., we will look at the train from Cercedilla to Segovia.
Please report back when you get to that section please ., if you can. and Buen Camino.
Annie
Hi OzAnnie , I was following your thread about setting off on the 23rd & I was keen to join the party but a friend asked to go a bit earlier . I will do my best to let you know on conditions , cheers TonyHi Tony
We are in a similar position but setting off a bit later. Mar 23 from Madrid. If the pass is considered too dangerous., we will look at the train from Cercedilla to Segovia.
Please report back when you get to that section please ., if you can. and Buen Camino.
Annie
Thanks for the advice Kinkyone & I will have a look at the youtube film , cheers TonyI don't think the pass is dangerous in snow as it would be with fresh snow in the Alps. It would take a lot of energy to wade through the snow and you'd lost a lot of energy needed for (not so steep) descend. Exhausted and maybe even a bit of hypothermia could be fatal even on this altitude. Add temperatures and late afternoon with lower visibility and there you have problems. I know that in my climbing years I could've had run over this pass even in almost waist deep snow but now...
I would say remember the warnings from Napoleon (and even Valcarlos) route and apply them here and you'll be on the safe side.
Buen Camino de Madrid to you too, Annie!
In a week, it may be clear!!We were planning on being in Cercedilla one week from today
We are six 70 year olds from Australia (men) setting off from Madrid on the 1 April. we are also hopping for a bit of snow. (austraila is lacking in the white stuff!
Buen Camino TonyFlew into Madrid today & there looks to be a significant amount of snow on the mountains. The fields have a fair bit of standing water in them & it looked like there had been a downpour today . Walk starts tomorrow !
I'll be following your steps (for a second time) in a bit more than one month.Flew into Madrid today & there looks to be a significant amount of snow on the mountains. The fields have a fair bit of standing water in them & it looked like there had been a downpour today . Walk starts tomorrow !
Thanks AnnieBuen Camino Tony
Thanks for the update. I’ll be watching to hear from you. Hoping you get some dry days .
Annie
Buen camino from a hill farm tucked into Cold Fell, Cumbria - still a few drifts heading up to the higher ground, but most of the snow in the lower fields has melted, and my ewes and lambs are back out.Thanks Alan , I believe you are a fellow Cumbrian
. Bit disappointed as we headed back to town & caught the train to Colmenar. Now holed up in Gran hostal El Chiscon, very nice & discount for pilgrims , €48 For a twin room Inc breakfast. Tried to attach photos but I'm not good with computers / phones etc
I think it is Thirlmere Alan but someone may correct meBuen camino from a hill farm tucked into Cold Fell, Cumbria - still a few drifts heading up to the higher ground, but most of the snow in the lower fields has melted, and my ewes and lambs are back out.
Is that Buttermere in your avatar? - ages since I've been up Haystacks.
I called in advance mostly to check if sleeping at the albergue is possible at all the next day. Usually there wasn't a problem and also this way the village hospitalero knows someone is likely coming. For example in A Pobra do Brollon (Invierno) is possible to sleep in polideportivo but the day I called the mayor was absent and nobody else wanted to take responsibility to let unknown peregrino into their gym. And then I called Pension As Vinas and had another nice experience.Thanks for that advice @KinkyOne ( to check on following days weather rather than sleeping in Cercedilla if there is possibility that a train to Segovia is needed. )
I was just re-reading your report & thoughts on your experience in Zamarramala.. you had a really good day. I guess communication makes a big difference. So guess it’s a very individual thing.
With booking ahead the day before ., did you find that many were ‘completo’. if left to day before? I have been looking at distances and stages in the Madrid and Invierno and wondered about needing to book further ahead - but if plan goes awry , it would require many phone calls to cancel bookings. Also some want payment in advance . So may be safer to just have list of possibles and phone day before ??
Thanks again K1
Annie
People in Cercedilla would surely know what the circumstances are or you might ask this Camino couple living in Manzanares el Real (and even offering donativo accommodation): http://www.rayyrosa.com/Delighted to have stumbled on this thread as I will be considering the Fuenfria route about eight weeks from today. Walk out of Madrid on May 7th. Hope the snow is gone by then, but really appreciating the insight and experience of others. Thank you!
Thank you, K1. Read about RayyRosa for the first time on@Timr’s posts last year. Perhaps I will try to connect with them. Finding all the dialogue on here really helpful and pleased to see the experienced peregrinos speak of it so positively. Except perhaps for the current weather!People in Cercedilla would surely know what the circumstances are or you might ask this Camino couple living in Manzanares el Real (and even offering donativo accommodation): http://www.rayyrosa.com/
Buen Camino!
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