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Hello Annie ,In the past, when getting my Credential, I was asked why I was walking.
If for spiritual or religious reasons, I could get a Compostela.
If just walking for the heck of it, I could get a pretty piece of paper saying I'd completed the pilgrimage.
Some of my Credentials even have a space for the answer to that question.
But I notice this new Credential does not have that question.
Do they no longer ask if you are walking for religious reasons?
Or is it still a requirement?
If that is the new description I personally love it!Hello Annie ,
There is a difference now
Take care and be safe
- Make the pilgrimage for religious or spiritual reasons, or at least an attitude of search.
You received your Credential? Or your Compostela?I received mine this morning and checked the box, but was disappointed there was no conversation about it, or anything actually.
May I suggest that you state which organisation issued your credential, and when.
As far as I know and/or vaguely remember, the text of the credentials are not identical. I also have Fernando Lalanda's booklet about the History of the Credential and had a quick look. In particular, the passage of text that says that the credencial (yes, it is about the credencial and not yet about the Compostela) is only for those who make the pilgrimage with a Christian sentiment, even if it is only with an attitude of search / con sentido cristiano, aunque sólo sea en actitud de búsqueda / avec un sentiment chrétien, même en attitude de recherche seulement, and that the holder accepts this condition is nothing new. It had been printed in credentials issued in Spanish and in French for decades. This line may be missing in credentials designed and issued by national pilgrims associations established in other countries.
I received my first credential many many years ago. It was issued by a French pilgrims association and it contained already this text in French. I must admit that I had not paid much attention to it, I noticed it only several years later when there was a discussion about it on the forum. People who don't speak French or Spanish and receive their credential from the pilgrims office in SJPP or Ivar's shop may never notice it.
Are you sure? The credencial issued by the Cathedral, the one that can be ordered on the forum shop and that is shown on the Oficina del Peregrino's website, does have such a reference - unless my Spanish is so poor that I misunderstand the text? As I said already, I think that many people are not aware of it, and for all practical purposes it doesn't matter.I have in my hand a credential issued by the cathedral DeSantiago. It makes no reference or question as to why the pilgrim is making the pilgrimage.
Currently, the choice is between religious; religious and other; not religious. No spiritual.When a pilgrim checks into the pilgrim office they are asked why they made the journey and they are to choose one of three answers. Religious, spiritual, or other (cultural, sport, or tourism).
Thank you for your reply and helping me to clarify. Sorry, I tend to be too wordy. Therefore, going back to the original post, my short answer should have been as follows.Are you sure? The credencial issued by the Cathedral, the one that can be ordered on the forum shop and that is shown on the Oficina del Peregrino's website, does have such a reference - unless my Spanish is so poor that I misunderstand the text? As I said already, I think that many people are not aware of it, and for all practical purposes it doesn't matter.
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I'd be interested to know who issued the credentials where you can indicate your motive for the pilgrimage. Where they issued by APOC or the Confraternity from the UK?I've got about 20 Credentials and only a few of them ask the question.
You've got quite a collection of different credentials there.The rest do mention the reason.
Perhaps they have begun to realize that, for many of us, when we begin the Camino and first fill in our credencial, we don't really know why we are walking. Or the answer we give at the beginning is not the answer that is true at the end. So they save the question for the end of the Camino when they need the information to determine who gets the Compostela. Some people still may not know then, but they can't wait any longer for them to figure it out.In the past, when getting my Credential, I was asked why I was walking.
If for spiritual or religious reasons, I could get a Compostela.
If just walking for the heck of it, I could get a pretty piece of paper saying I'd completed the pilgrimage.
Some of my Credentials even have a space for the answer to that question.
But I notice this new Credential does not have that question.
Do they no longer ask if you are walking for religious reasons?
Or is it still a requirement?
Some people still may not know then, but they can't wait any longer for them to figure it out.
Actually, that credencial was intended to collect stamps. They just weren't on the front. It was made from cardstock and folded once, with spots on the inside for stamps from: Viscarret, Pamplona, Puente la Reina, Estella, Logroño, Najera, Santo Domingo de la Calzada, San Juan de Ortega, Burgos, Fromista, Villacazar de Sirga, Sahagun, Leon, Astorga, Rabanal del Camino, and Ponferrada. On the back, there were further spaces for stamps from Villafranca del Bierzo, Cebreiro, Triacastela, Sarria, Portomarin, and Palas de Rey, as well as some closing text that instructs the pilgrim to present the credencial at the end of the Camino to receive the Compostela (then called a Compostelana).I had a look at the photos in this thread Post a picture of your credential! but I still couldn't see a page where you could tick the reason for your pilgrimage. If someone could post a photo of that, it would be helpful.
@David Tallan posted the photo of the credential that he had been given in 1989. The credential had not yet become a means of collecting stamps; it served to document that you had started your pilgrimage somewhere and had ended it in Santiago. I guess that there were no questions about the purpose of the pilgrimage then, no choice of motives ... or the Cathedral as an institution did not want to admit and did not want to contemplate the fact that there were major non-religious reasons for walking to Santiago?
Con la presente credencial que se expide en Roncesvalles y en Jaca, y eventualmente en algún punto del Camino, podrá solicitarse la "Compostelana" en la venerable y Apostólica Iglesia Metropolitana de Santiago como documento auténtico de visita a este sacratísimo Templo por motivo de Peregrinación.
Your supposition is correct. I am volunteering in the Pilgrim Office as I write this.I always read that you had to fill in a form (on paper) at the Pelgrims Office to obtain a Compostella. They would ask for your reasons to walk and the three options where something like: religious, spiritual and other reasons. You would get a Compostella if you walked for religious or spiritual reasons, ans some other certificate if you filled in other reasons
Now they have a digital form and the options are non-religious, religious and religious&other. There's no 'spiritual' option anymore. I suppose you can choose religious&other now and get a Compostella?
Thank you!Your supposition is correct. I am volunteering in the Pilgrim Office as I write this.
Can I ask you something else?Your supposition is correct. I am volunteering in the Pilgrim Office as I write this.
The new wording neatly avoids the moral dilemma of obtaining a compostella, which may be of spiritual significance to some, by lying about your qualification for it.In the past, when getting my Credential, I was asked why I was walking.
If for spiritual or religious reasons, I could get a Compostela.
If just walking for the heck of it, I could get a pretty piece of paper saying I'd completed the pilgrimage.
Some of my Credentials even have a space for the answer to that question.
But I notice this new Credential does not have that question.
Do they no longer ask if you are walking for religious reasons?
Or is it still a requirement?
I have just deleted several posts that I wrote a few minutes ago. Because I have finally found something where the Cathedral uses the category "spiritual". Gone is also a link to an article in El Mundo from 2010 where the categories used in the Cathedral's statistics were religious, religious/cultural and cultural. As an aside, I must say that the collection, processing and presentation of pilgrim data by the Cathedral has never struck me as particularly rigorous.wording
I filled this out when I arrived in SdC two weeks ago. I got to the Pilgrims office late and filled out the digital form there. I honestly don't remember now if I did it at the kiosk in front of the office or on my phone. In any event the Pilgrims office sent me a confirmation email with a number. The next day when I arrived at the counter in the pilgrims office, the person there just looked up my name and did not ask for my confirmation number, and issued me my Compostela. Maybe it helps to have an uncommon surname. She did want to see my Credential as well.Can I ask you something else?
There's the digital form on the Pelgrim's office website now. When you click 'register', choose 'single' and select English language you can fill in the form. But then the only option to continue is 'create a group'. When you select Spanish language you can continue with 'alta individual'.
I suppose it's an incorrect translation and you can continue with 'create a group' as an individual? It's confusing because I don't want to create any group, I just want to complete the digital form.
It also doesn't say you wil get a QR code when you continue, do you get a QR code to be scanned by the person giving out the Compostela?
And do you have to fill in the form on arrival or can you do it the night before? Will it still be valid the next day?
It is whatever you take it to be.What, please, is the difference between 'spiritual' and 'religious'?
@C clearly has already given the perfect answer.What, please, is the difference between 'spiritual' and 'religious'?
I presume that many if not most people are not aware of this.The very document specifically states you walked with religious intent.
Definitely! It’s about as far as Catholicism goes towards evangelization these days.If I had to make a guess, I'd guess it is all done in the hope to get the sheep back home into the Shepherd's care and perhaps even recruit a few new ones.
I completely agree!My confusion has always been why NON-religious folks have any interest in obtaining the VERY religious document known as a Compostela?!?! I understand the desire to walk and the choice to not identify as Catholic, but why the desire to then have a holy document issued by the Catholic Church? The very document specifically states you walked with religious intent.
The “completion” certificate is equally beautiful, issued at the same desk, and does not require one to feign allegiance to a specific church body or belief system. It proclaims exactly what a non-religious pilgrim has done: walked the Camino for non-religious reasons. THIS should be the one sought by those who are not practitioners of the Christian faith.
I've never asked for a Compostela either for the same reason. However, after my second Camino I compared my two certificates and discovered that they were different, and that I had been issued a Compostela for my first Camino without asking for it. In fact I very specifically told the Pilgrims Office worker that I wanted the certificate of welcome and not the Compostela.never asked for a Compostela (matter of principle)
I am not sure, but that does not stop me from putting in my nose!In the past, when getting my Credential, I was asked why I was walking.
If for spiritual or religious reasons, I could get a Compostela.
If just walking for the heck of it, I could get a pretty piece of paper saying I'd completed the pilgrimage.
Some of my Credentials even have a space for the answer to that question.
But I notice this new Credential does not have that question.
Do they no longer ask if you are walking for religious reasons?
Or is it still a requirement?
Are Mass and other rites open to non Catholics? I distinctly remember the old priest at Roncevaĺles telling the congregation that the host was only for true believers ie CatholicsDefinitely! It’s about as far as Catholicism goes towards evangelization these days.. It’s the same reason that Mass and other rites are always open to everyone: you never know when someone may need it and be open to the message.
Are Mass and other rites open to non Catholics? I distinctly remember the old priest at Roncevaĺles telling the congregation that the host was only for true believers ie Catholics
Best ask this question offline. See point in previous post...Are Mass and other rites open to non Catholics? I distinctly remember the old priest at Roncevaĺles telling the congregation that the host was only for true believers ie Catholics
My understanding is that “religious” means you regularly attend church services (of any faith). Whereas “spiritual” means you are open to the credence of religion, but not of any particular faith.What, please, is the difference between 'spiritual' and 'religious'?
Wow! What a great interpretation.My understanding is that “religious” means you regularly attend church services (of any faith). Whereas “spiritual” means you are open to the credence of religion, but not of any particular faith.
Wow! What a great interpretation.
Gets me off the hook. My old gods would be much gruntled if I chose just to big-up one of them. Thats why I've always sought to avoid the monotheistic institutions and follow what my grandma taught me.
And as I yomp my way to that old boat I take comfort that there are thousands of pilgrims trying to find my way
Without going too much into religion and running afoul of Forum rules, and in the spirit of talking about the Camino and Camino activities, I think the question conflates to separate (but related) activities - attending Mass and accepting Communion and the host. I never heard it indicated anywhere that Mass was open only to Catholics. There are many Pilgrim Masses along the Caminos and my understanding was always that they were open to anyone. The same goes for the Masses in Santiago. I'm not a Catholic (not even a Christian) but I do have Christian friends. I've heard from them that it is okay to attend masses as a guest (and other rites like marriages, baptisms, etc.). I think what it comes down to is that as a non-Catholic one can be a guest and witness the rites (marriage, communion, etc.) but not necessarily be a direct participant in the sacrament. As such, I've felt that I was respecting the religious boundaries on my Caminos when attending pilgrim masses as long as I didn't line up for Communion. If that isn't the case, it would be useful to know so that my Camino activities on future Caminos can better line up with my intentions.Are Mass and other rites open to non Catholics? I distinctly remember the old priest at Roncevaĺles telling the congregation that the host was only for true believers ie Catholics
Nevermind ! Just found out from a guide must be religiousBeen searching for clarification on this topic. We arrive tomorrow Oct 7, 2022. online Form asks for choice of religious, no religion or religion snf other. I chose non. 2022 Brierly book says must be religious or for other vows. Will I be denied Compostela? (Ridiculous if this is the case!). Should I re-register for and say religious & other?
I got a compostella but not religious. Can’t remember what I put on form but no one I met on my walks were religious or even mentioned it and al got a compostella!Nevermind ! Just found out from a guide must be religious
No matter which box you ticked in the online application form, if you got a Compostela and not any of the other certificates then you and every recipient of a Compostela now have it in black and white, albeit in Latin, that you visited the Cathedral with a Christian attitude after having walked the last one hundred kilometres on foot with a Christian attitude (pietatis causa)I got a compostella but not religious. Can’t remember what I put on form but no one I met on my walks were religious or even mentioned it and al got a compostella!
Why is it "ridiculous" to be denied a Compostela if you have specifically stated that you are walking for non-religious reasons? Have you taken time to consider the text of the Compostela? In translation it reads " to all the Faithful and pilgrims who arrive from anywhere on the Orb of the Earth with an attitude of devotion or because of a vow or promise make a pilgrimage to the Tomb of the Apostle, Our Patron Saint and Protector of Spain, recognises before all who observe this document that: …………… has devotedly visited this most sacred temple having done the last hundred kilometers on foot or on horseback or the last two hundred by bicycle with Christian sentiment (pietatis causa)". Personally I would not wish to have my name recorded on a document if the statement it makes is false. An alternative welcome certificate without such religious wording is available for those like yourself who have actively disavowed any overtly religious or spiritual motivation.Will I be denied Compostela? (Ridiculous if this is the case!).
That’s fine! I can’t say I am overthinking it. It was a nice souvenir after walking 800km. Same for the other folks.No matter which box you ticked in the online application form, if you got a Compostela and not any of the other certificates then you and every recipient of a Compostela now have it in black and white, albeit in Latin, that you visited the Cathedral with a Christian attitude after having walked the last one hundred kilometres on foot with a Christian attitude (pietatis causa). Because that's what the text means according to the authors, and the Pilgrim Office has helpfully provided their translation of the Latin text on the Compostela into Spanish and into English, with the Spanish version mentioning the sentido cristiano twice and the English version once.
ha visitado devotamente y con sentido cristiano este sacratísimo templo tras haber realizado tanto a pie como a caballo los últimos cien kilómetros o en bicicleta los últimos doscientos con sentido cristiano (pietatis causa).And no, they don't check whether you actually went into the Cathedral.
It would actually be interesting to know whether the question on the online registration form about motive has only a statistical purpose or whether it actually matters as to who gets a Compostela and who doesn't and gets a different but equally pretty looking document instead. I mean actual practice in 2022 and not what guidebooks and blogs claim.That’s fine! I can’t say I am overthinking it. It was a nice souvenir after walking 800km. Same for the other folks.
When I received my first Compostela they were issued in an office in the cathedral itself. So no need to askAnd no, they don't check whether you actually went into the Cathedral.
One reason why I never asked for a Compostela, other than the fact that I can decipher Latin when I put my mind to itPersonally I would not wish to have my name recorded on a document if the statement it makes is false. An alternative welcome certificate without such religious wording is available for those like yourself who have actively disavowed any overtly religious or spiritual motivation.
Does that mean the form of welcome should be identical for all though? The pilgrim office is a department of the cathedral - an overtly Christian institution. The cathedral already offers an alternative welcome certificate for those who are clear that their motivation is not religious or spiritual. That seems both generous and respectful to me., i.e to be at the service of the pilgrim, open to a welcome without distinction of the pilgrim's origin, culture, religion, gender.
Those conditions were certainly gone by the time I walked in 1990. But the great majority of pilgrims were still Catholic. As a Protestant theology student I was a very rare species. Before being given my Compostela I had a long and searching conversation with the cathedral priest on what the journey and pilgrimage meant to me as a non-Catholic. A theological debriefing which I found very useful in making some sense of the experience.In 1963, it still confirmed that the recipient had gone to Confession and received Communion (which are very essential elements of their faith for Catholics and other Christians, as many forum members will know). I don't know when this line was dropped from the Compostela but it is gone.
I am a catholic but my reasons to walk to Santiago are not religious. At least in the sense that I am sure Holy James has not put even a single toe in Galicia, and its bones are not there. Furthermore I do not care. Relics are not required to believe.Those conditions were certainly gone by the time I walked in 1990. But the great majority of pilgrims were still Catholic. As a Protestant theology student I was a very rare species. Before being given my Compostela I had a long and searching conversation with the cathedral priest on what the journey and pilgrimage meant to me as a non-Catholic. A theological debriefing which I found very useful in making some sense of the experience.
No matter which box you ticked in the online application form, if you got a Compostela and not any of the other certificates then you and every recipient of a Compostela now have it in black and white, albeit in Latin, that you visited the Cathedral with a Christian attitude after having walked the last one hundred kilometres on foot with a Christian attitude (pietatis causa). Because that's what the text means according to the authors, and the Pilgrim Office has helpfully provided their translation of the Latin text on the Compostela into Spanish and into English, with the Spanish version mentioning the sentido cristiano twice and the English version once.
ha visitado devotamente y con sentido cristiano este sacratísimo templo tras haber realizado tanto a pie como a caballo los últimos cien kilómetros o en bicicleta los últimos doscientos con sentido cristiano (pietatis causa).
Thank you! Very useful! I always steer clear of the word ‘Christian’ as I always assumed a religious connection (and I’m not) but can definitely sign up up to those definitions!“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”Lewis Carroll - Through the Looking Glass
In the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, one of the definitions for the adjective "christian" (the third one) is "treating other people in a kind or generous way". Or, from the other side of the pond, the Cambridge Dictionary defines the adjective "christian" as "used to describe a person or action that is good, kind, helpful, etc.". (My OED is at home.)
So with those definitions in mind, I can certainly say that I strive to walk my Caminos with a christian attitude.
I have both a Compostela and a "welcome certificate." I was given the Compostela on my first Camino even though I didn't ask for it.It does not have to be listed on your credential. But when at the Pilgrim's office in Santiago they do ask (or now the website asks) - and if you want a Compostela you have to say Religious or Spiritual. If you say something else, you get a different certificate.
I like this definition of pilgrimage on Wikipedia:Thank you! Very useful! I always steer clear of the word ‘Christian’ as I always assumed a religious connection (and I’m not) but can definitely sign up up to those definitions!
Sure. Context free translation does not provide meaning but can be so inclusive:In the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, one of the definitions for the adjective "christian" (the third one)
Thank you! My thoughts exactly. Defining 'christian' as one possessing universally positive values such as kindness and generosity seems to short-change Christians, atheists, agnostics and those of other faiths who all have their distinctive positions. I walked my first Camino as a thoroughly convinced and dogmatic Protestant Christian. These days I am less convinced but my "attitude of search" is far more to the fore! Walking the Caminos for me is in some part the hunt for something to fill the "god-shaped" hole left by the loss of conventional Christian faith.You picked the wrong dictionaries though. The Compostela text is in Latin. Have a go at pietas. That word has much more potential for global inclusiveness.
I started with Latin and was going to respond that I may not be approaching my Camino as Christian, but I do approach it with what Google translates as pietas. But then I noticed that you were referencing the Cathedral interpretation and the Cathedral authorities were, like Humpty Dumpty, mastering the Latin word and making it mean what they wanted it to mean. So I figured turn about was fair play and I could take what they had written in my language (English) and make it mean what I wanted it to mean.Sure. Context free translation does not provide meaning but can be so inclusive:
Christian - adjectiveDefinition1a: of or relating to Christianity: Christian scriptures1b: based on or conforming with Christianity: Christian ethics2a: of, relating to, or being a Christian: Christian responsibilities2b: professing Christianity: a Christian affirmation, a Christian country3: treating other people in a kind or generous way: has a very Christian concern for others
You picked the wrong dictionaries though. The Compostela text is in Latin. Have a go at pietas f (genitive pietatis). That word has much more potential for global inclusiveness.
It was the case, but not anymore. A compostela is now issued to all pilgrims who satisfy the 100km minimum distance. But if you don't want one, you can ask for a welcome certificate.It does not have to be listed on your credential. But when at the Pilgrim's office in Santiago they do ask (or now the website asks) - and if you want a Compostela you have to say Religious or Spiritual. If you say something else, you get a different certificate. And then of course there is the separate distance certificate.
Well. I can't say that I don't find this a rather odd remark. I love puzzles and I loved Latin at school and that's why I had great fun, some time ago, puzzling out the various convoluted grammar structures in the Compostela text. I remember in particular that I looked at the context of the use of the word pietas and pietatis causa, and of course I did so not by putting it into Google Translate but into Google Searchwhat Google translates as pietas. But then I noticed that you were referencing the Cathedral interpretation and the Cathedral authorities were, like Humpty Dumpty, mastering the Latin word and making it mean what they wanted it to mean
Here's why I said they were mastering the word and making it mean what they want it to mean. You wrote:Well. I can't say that I don't find this a rather odd remark. I love puzzles and I loved Latin at school and that's why I had great fun, some time ago, puzzling out the various convoluted grammar structures in the Compostela text. I remember in particular that I looked at the context of the use of the word pietas and pietatis causa, and of course I did so not by putting it into Google Translate but into Google Search, and spending quite a bit of time with scholarly text about Medieval Latin and Church Latin. An interesting word with an interesting history throughout the ages. However, suffice it to say that my interest is mainly in the linguistic aspect of the text, and not in how it relates to one's own attitude as to whether to justify to oneself whether to ask for and to get a Compostela or not.
I've often wondered what the Cathedral is getting out of this Compostela business in this day and age, what their purpose is. Sometimes I think that is now so established that they cannot get rid of it anymore one way or another. More seriously, tradition and outreach and the new evangelisation must certainly be a part of it. But mostly I think nowadays that it is part of their core business: caritas for all, not only for a member of their own flock but also for the stranger, no matter what his or her belief is if any. Works of caritas is what they've been good at for the better part of some 2000 years now.
Now when I looked at the Latin (pietatis causa) and translated it myself (with the help of Google), the word "Christian" never showed up in the translation. It seemed to me that they were making a more general term (piety) much more specific in their translation in a way that is not borne out by the original Latin. (I'm not a connoisseur of Latin.) So it seemed fair to me that I could use one of the legitimate definitions of the word "christian" to take it back to the broader sense I saw in the original Latin and honestly say that I walk with christian attitude (if perhaps not Christian attitude).No matter which box you ticked in the online application form, if you got a Compostela and not any of theother certificates then you and every recipient of a Compostela now have it in black and white, albeit in Latin, that you visited the Cathedral with a Christian attitude after having walked the last one hundred kilometres on foot with a Christian attitude (pietatis causa)
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Some pilgrims were completing the pilgrimage as punishment but by no means all and not even most. The 100 km minimum is quite modern and not related at all to medieval punishments.Wasn't the whole pilgrimage about the sacrament of penance. Your were banished from your home town (quite a punishment at the time) until you had completed it. The Compostella was evidence for your local clergy that you had completed your penance and could return.
Then it progressed to a financial gift to the church as penance, then the progression to the present day.
The only oddity would be that penance was 100k and not 99k.
I don't think the cathedral has ever recorded religious affiliation in their statistics. When receiving a Compostela involved making confession and receiving communion then pilgrims would be assumed to be Catholic. The only record of religious affiliation I've ever come across was posted here by @Kathar1na a few years ago. Some 1988 statistics from Roncesvalles. About 98% identified themselves as Catholic. 2 Jewish. 2 Buddhist. And a solitary "sans religion". Worlds away from the current situation!If they really want to limit the Compostelas to Christians, they should ask people's religions on the form.
Some pilgrims were completing the pilgrimage as punishment but by no means all and not even most. The 100 km minimum is quite modern and not related at all to medieval punishments.
I think it unlikely that Turismo de Galicia would permit the Cathedral to drop the Compostela concept. As @Flog states above "A compostela is now issued to all pilgrims who satisfy the 100km minimum distance" [even if they think pietatis is a lunch-time snack and the only searching they've done is for a good wee-fee connection].I've often wondered what the Cathedral is getting out of this Compostela business in this day and age, what their purpose is. Sometimes I think that is now so established that they cannot get rid of it anymore one way or another
What the Cathedral gains from the trade? Probably a lot of assistance with grant-aid applications for all that maintenance and repair and the odd bung for a party.
"Spiritual" is not an option that can be ticked off. Just for the record, below is a screenshot of the current form - the online application form for obtaining a Compostela that is used by the overwhelming majority of pilgrims for all I know.That said, if I tick off "Spritual" reasons on the form and they give me a Compostela, I don't feel dishonest in accepting it.
Why do I suddenly see angels dancing on a pinTo complicate things, if I am not Christian, but am doing my pilgrimage in vicare pro someone who is a religious Catholic who cannot walk it themself, with the intention that they receive any religious benefit that they expect, how does that count? (I'm intending "Religioso y otros" barring persuasive arguments to the contrary.)
I know they give everyone a certificate. My understanding was the certificate is a little different if you select religious/spiritual as opposed to something else. Perhaps that has changed... Oh well... I have always said "spiritual" so wouldn't know for sure!It was the case, but not anymore. A compostela is now issued to all pilgrims who satisfy the 100km minimum distance. But if you don't want one, you can ask for a welcome certificate.
Yes, the compostela. The motivo you select is just for statistics.I know they give everyone a certificate. My understanding was the certificate is a little different if you select religious/spiritual as opposed to something else.
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