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Love this, Annie...thanks for sharing the photos...and your heart!Ten years ago, Joe and I just happened to be in the Pilgrim Office when they were looking for extras for a new movie being shot on the Camino. That movie has changed the lives of many people.
Here is a little blog about it:
http://caminosantiago2.blogspot.com/2019/09/the-movie-way.html
You were writing my thoughts, Annie - this and many others. Wonderful blog post!I often feel frustrated
when someone comes out
with yet ANOTHER book,
or ANOTHER film,
or ANOTHER You Tube video.
I want to scream "STOP!!!"
Amen.I believe the most important thing in the end isn't what brings you to the camino, but what do you take from the experience once you had your own go at it.
@Badypus is not the only one. Me for another, though I never set foot on it until about 35 years after I first learned of it.Before it, who had heard of the Camino de Santiago, unless they were Catholic?"
I for one would be glad to see numbers on the Camino Frances thinned out a little. But I doubt that a horror movie would scare many away. Ever been to Transylvania and seen all the tourist industry built around Dracula and vampires?I never saw the movie you refer to, but possibly a horror movie based on the Camino may keep fewer people from walking. Could that possibly be a good thing?
Hmmm, sounds lame IMO. A waste of perfectly good celluloid.An odd piece of news this morning. Orange Spain have commissioned a screenwriter to write a horror movie about the disappearance of a group of young walkers on the Camino. To be filmed soon using the same "found footage" concept that was famously used in The Blair Witch Project. It will be interesting to see if this also turns out to be a landmark moment in Camino history...
Orange Spain reveals first drama production
The first co-production produced by Mediapro on behalf of Orange Spain is a horror movie.www.broadbandtvnews.com
As the plan is to make it mostly from mobile phone videos I think celluloid will not be an issue. And one of the best features of micro-SD cards is the ability to wipe out your less successful ventures and use them for something betterHmmm, sounds lame IMO. A waste of perfectly good celluloid.
Good replyAs the plan is to make it mostly from mobile phone videos I think celluloid will not be an issue. And one of the best features of micro-SD cards is the ability to wipe out your less successful ventures and use them for something better
Yes, such as making me believe that I could run after someone who had stolen my rucksack. Run? Most days I could hardly walk!I think that movie has a lot to answer for!
Good, bad and indifferent! LOL!
An odd piece of news this morning. Orange Spain have commissioned a screenwriter to write a horror movie about the disappearance of a group of young walkers on the Camino. To be filmed soon using the same "found footage" concept that was famously used in The Blair Witch Project. It will be interesting to see if this also turns out to be a landmark moment in Camino history...
Orange Spain reveals first drama production
The first co-production produced by Mediapro on behalf of Orange Spain is a horror movie.www.broadbandtvnews.com
A movie made from mobile phone videos. Even more nauseating.....As the plan is to make it mostly from mobile phone videos I think celluloid will not be an issue. And one of the best features of micro-SD cards is the ability to wipe out your less successful ventures and use them for something better
I too read a brief article in a newspaper as a young man and thought I'D like to do that',but did not have the time or the cash to do it.I read a book about 20 years later that reminded me of my interest,long before the movie.I have just returned from my sixth visit since I retired at 65 and each year meet the most wonderful people from all over the world.I still meet people who have been inspired by the movie,but it matters not what sparks the interest as long as we still walk the way.I agree many heard of the Camino Francis before the movie The Way. I had heard about it years ago when Shirley McLain walked it. But she was too far out to inspire me to even read her book. However, I realized that this is a walk for anyone seeking and that it is an inspiring walk after I viewed the movie The Way.
My first Camino with much praying helped me undo the damages to my spirit caused by a abusive childhood and a worse first husband. The Camino gave me the first feeling of belonging I ever felt which gave me the courage to be myself. I've since walked 9 times and am in Santiago this moment.
I thank the movie for inspiring me to come to Spain and keep coming back for more but now I give as much as I receive.
"This movie did so much to popularize the Camino. Before it, who had heard of the Camino de Santiago,unless they were Catholic?"
Well - me for one.
Good replybut I think something got lost in the translation here. The way I understand it, it will be a TV series, for the Spanish market, produced for Orange TV which is a broadband TV channel and video on demand service and the main narrative involves images from the mobile phones of the group members who have disappeared.
I realise that this thread is an hommage to the impact of the US movie The Way but to answer the rhetorical question of who had heard of the Camino to Santiago before 2010: plenty of people. All those who read newspapers (remember those?) and books (remember hardcopies?) and watched terrestrial TV in their home countries and their native languages. Have a look at which year the Friends of the Camino associations were founded in Spain, Germany, France, Benelux, Italy, nearly all of them a good 25 years before 2010. That's a quarter of a century earlier! In the decade of 1980-1990, the associations began to spread throughout Europe and so did the publicity about the Way to Saint James in Galicia.
How exciting, @Anniesantiago, that you were there when the movie was filmed in Santiago and you are even in it! Can you post a screen shot of you and your friend in the movie? ☺
Thank you for your blog It is amazing where the film has taken all of us. I too have had my life changed by the film. Like you on my second walk I walked as a subject in a film sharing the lives of many others for some thirty eight days.Love this, Annie...thanks for sharing the photos...and your heart!
Actually, I suspect many of my pagan friends in the 80s were aware of it, too, but then again, most of them were into medieval studies.For the record, when I said, "WHO would know that?" I was talking about myself and my immediate circle of friends and family, most of whom are either LDS, Pentacostals, or pagan! lol!
I'm well aware many of YOU had heard of it!
Many of YOU were already here when I popped in the first time.
Yes, the 2010 movie cannot be credited or blamed for more than a fraction of the increased popularity. Similarly, Brierley shouldn't be blamed for the popular stages.the influence of that movie is overstated and that people assume that its undoubted effect in increasing public awareness of the Caminos in the USA was true globally. Quite a lot of us who live elsewhere had already had that memo some time before...
I think that many of us prefer simple explanations. The reality is probably much more complicated and messy. The first edition of the Brierley Camino Frances guide appeared in 2003 I believe. There had already been enormous growth in numbers in the Caminos by that point - relatively little of which was from English-speaking countries. "The Way" may have prompted an increase in the number of Americans walking the Caminos after 2010 but again they remain a small element in the overall scheme of things. As a forum with English as our common language I think we are inclined to place more weight on Brierley and Estevez than they really deserve.Yes, the 2010 movie cannot be credited or blamed for more than a fraction of the increased popularity. Similarly, Brierley shouldn't be blamed for the popular stages.
This movie is why I first walked the camino. It's true, it is not a total representation of the route but for me it was for the people I met, friends made and memories that'll never diminish. I'm glad it was made.Ten years ago, Joe and I just happened to be in the Pilgrim Office when they were looking for extras for a new movie being shot on the Camino. That movie has changed the lives of many people.
Here is a little blog about it:
http://caminosantiago2.blogspot.com/2019/09/the-movie-way.html
The Holy Year Horror Picture Show, complete with songs and group dance moves, it could become a major cult classic. I would feature Marin Sheen, as a transvestite priest in his comeback role on the Camino, Susan Sarandon, as an ex-nun who wants to kick her habit, Meat Loaf who writes poetry and drinks too much, the return of Joost who probably hasn't had movie gig since 2009 and Emilio Estevez, as a ghost who haunts the cast in every scene.I never saw the movie you refer to, but possibly a horror movie based on the Camino may keep fewer people from walking. Could that possibly be a good thing?
According to this source, it was "a series of programs in a documentary about the route."the Camino's popularity in Korea is due to some degree to a 2008 television series. I've heard that mentioned several times while walking the Camino. Anybody know the name of the series? Was it documentary style or fictional drama type?
It's not about digital cameras or "old-fashioned" film stock cameras. Sometimes you can re-create mobile phone footage better with 8mm or 16mm film stock than with digital equipment. It depends on what the film director and DOP decide.As the plan is to make it mostly from mobile phone videos I think celluloid will not be an issue. And one of the best features of micro-SD cards is the ability to wipe out your less successful ventures and use them for something better
And while we are talking about the movies this one hasn't been mentioned in this thread although it was released 5 years prior to The Way:...
I realise that this thread is an hommage to the impact of the US movie The Way but to answer the rhetorical question of who had heard of the Camino to Santiago before 2010: plenty of people.
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Never heard of it.And while we are talking about the movies this one hasn't been mentioned in this thread although it was released 5 years prior to The Way:
And much better movie than The Way BTW
That's how and when I first heard of Camino.
Nope.Never heard of it.
Can I watch it on that link?
Check out my above post (no.42).Small bits are viewable on Youtube.com
Yup, correct: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1441912/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ov_infView attachment 65098 Movie "The Way' Released USA October 2011
It was released in Spain in November 2010. A very long delay after that before the USA release in October 2011.But one German and one Danish guys asked me if I watched the movie in June of 2011 on CF in Burgos. DVD maybe? But I didn't ask at the time because I knew nothing about it
Yes, but those two guys were walking the Camino and not living in Spain when it happened. That's why I mentioned DVD with a question mark. It was officially released a whole year later in Germany for example but they both seen it in 2011It was released in Spain in November 2010. A very long delay after that before the USA release in October 2011.
Correlation may not mean causation, but that's definitely correlation!Movie "The Way' Released USA October 2011
I'm going to try to watch it, but I don't know French...bummer no subtitles.Check out my above post (no.42).
The main premise is that two sons (one workaholic, the other one alcoholic) and a sister (fighting the cancer if I remember well) are very much allienated. Their rich mother wrote in her last will that they will inherit the money only if they go together on the Chemin de St.Jacques. I think they started from Le Puy. They are part of the group with very much different characters and a guide. Second part is already taking place in Spain and they meet other pilgrims, for example snoring Germans etc. That's more or less the story. Of course they somehow reconnect, rethink etc. their relations and attitudes. The rest will be very much self evident but not knowing French will left you without much of the witty dialogues between them. And emotional. Nice movie!I'm going to try to watch it, but I don't know French...bummer no subtitles.
I am a fan of Saint-Jacques ... La Mecque. One of the few movies I actually have on DVD. But unlike The Way, I enjoy it because of the dialogue, the laughter and giggles it gives me, and because I can relate to the way the actual walking with a backpack and in a group is represented. I could do without the dream scenes, though. Of course, it, too, is a feel good story. I've watched it a few times and wouldn't mind watching it a few more times. Of course, it's great to see places that you recognise because you've been there, it's an added bonus. To me, it feels less shallow and more original/creative than The Way.And while we are talking about the movies this one hasn't been mentioned in this thread although it was released 5 years prior to The Way.
Me too. I found it fairly entertaining on the couple of occasions I have watched it but I was not particularly moved by it and I feel no great need to watch it again. I sometimes wonder if its most avid fan base is amongst those who first learned of the Caminos by seeing the film and therefore see the movie and the Camino itself as more closely intertwined? I think there may be something of that at play in the extraordinary degree of affection and loyalty which many users of the Brierley guides feel for them too: the lens through which they first encountered the Camino.I'm always a little astonished when I read that others can watch it dozen of times ... unless they do as I do?
You shouldn't have a problem with this version.I'm going to try to watch it, but I don't know French...bummer no subtitles.
Rick, I own this video and have watched it four times. Kinky has a French video of a. Camino movie, but it has a different story. Thanks, though for taking the time to post this one as others maybe have not seen it.You shouldn't have a problem with this version.
Click on the white title to see the video on YouTube itself.
youtube video id: OA6aq85WhXU
Oh, I got confused about which video was being discussed.Rick, I own this video and have watched it four times. Kinky has a French video of a. Camino movie, but it has a different story. Thanks, though for taking the time to post this one as others maybe have not seen it.
I watched The Way again a few hours ago while having blood products sucked out of me.
I have seen very few plays in my day, but "Little Shop of Horrors" was one of them. It was quite amusing and did provide some laughs!A few years ago I was giving blood when I realised that the music I was listening to on the sound system was the soundtrack album for "Little Shop of Horrors": a musical about a giant plant hungry for blood. I couldn't stop laughing and a couple of staff came over to check that I was not having some bizarre physical reaction to the donation process. As they had never heard of the film they couldn't understand why I found it so funny
\And it's fifty years since La Voie Lactée/The Milky Way.
It's probably the first Camino movie that I've seen. By Luis Buñuel, called a dominant international movie director by the NYT when he died in 1983. How many have even heard of him today, let alone seen his movies and this one in particular?
The movie starts with an image of a map of the four roads leading through France to Santiago, accompanied by the voice of a narrator who describes the history of the pilgrimage from its medieval beginnings until now, an "important pilgrimage that still exists today" [in 1969 when the movie was made] and the usual stuff that you read at the beginning of every guidebook today, such as 500,000 pilgrims annually (a claim disputed by many scholars today), from all over Europe, Compostela meaning field of stars (doubtful), the Milky Way being called Saint James Way in many Western languages (true).
The movie was released in movie theatres in many European countries in 1970 such as France, Germany, Benelux, the UK; in Spain only in 1977. I don't know about Italy. It was a bit ... controversial. Two guys walking and hitch-hiking from Paris to Santiago de Compostela. Carrying all their stuff themselves, btw, and not with a lot of money.
And while we are talking about the movies this one hasn't been mentioned in this thread although it was released 5 years prior to The Way:
And much better movie than The Way BTW
That's how and when I first heard of Camino.
I am a fan of Saint-Jacques ... La Mecque. One of the few movies I actually have on DVD. But unlike The Way, I enjoy it because of the dialogue, the laughter and giggles it gives me, and because I can relate to the way the actual walking with a backpack and in a group is represented. I could do without the dream scenes, though. Of course, it, too, is a feel good story. I've watched it a few times and wouldn't mind watching it a few more times. Of course, it's great to see places that you recognise because you've been there, it's an added bonus. To me, it feels less shallow and more original/creative than The Way.
I've seen The Way once or twice. I started up one of the pirate copies on YouTube a few times recently to help someone with identifying churches shown in the movie but I can't watch it as such anymore. I turn the sound off and put it on accelerated speed. I'm always a little astonished when I read that others can watch it dozen of times ... unless they do as I do?
Buñuel's movies are not to everyone's taste. In large parts, the underlying story of La Voie Lactée/The Milky Way touches on church history, in particular heretics and how Christian theology and beliefs developed throughout the ages. I think it is an excellent movie but I would hesitate to recommend it in general. I mentioned the movie mainly to point out that already 50 years ago there was a successful movie that was connected to the pilgrimage and the Way to Santiago and people were aware of it, to a much larger extent in Europe than in the USA where this movie remained unknown at the time, I think.Yes, I have heard of him, and have seen one film he made that he had to make in France, if I am correct. It was a long time ago, and I think it was part of an exhibition called Las Edades del Hombre.,
Thanks for the link, I will look it up, as I was impressed by his artistry.
I walked the Frances first in 2001 and either people knew about the camino from Shirley Maclaine's book or Paulo Coehlo.What an amazing story!
I also had never heard of the movie before I walked the first time (2015), so I was surprised by the amount of times I was asked what my thoughts were about Martin Sheen's journey.
I was ALSO surprised, having lived most of my childhood in Brazil, that no one ever asked me about Paulo Coelho's journey, which for my was the "pop culture" reference about the camino. A not-so-great one, imho, but I can see why it was popular in the 80s.
I believe the most important thing in the end isn't what brings you to the camino, but what do you take from the experience once you had your own go at it.
The film is what made me first aware of the Camino, and ever since I have wanted to take part & hopefully next year will be the year for me. Life has changed for me this year and now I find myself at a crossroads so time to do something for me.Ten years ago, Joe and I just happened to be in the Pilgrim Office when they were looking for extras for a new movie being shot on the Camino. That movie has changed the lives of many people.
Here is a little blog about it:
http://caminosantiago2.blogspot.com/2019/09/the-movie-way.html
The movie relied heavily on Jack Hitt’s ‘Off the Road’. (My favorite Camino book! History with great tales.) one of the most unbelievable parts of the movie, for me, was that crazy guy who talked with himself and had them go to the bathroom outside. (When he Really needed a bathroom!) That was actually in Jack Hitt’s book.Some Americans were talking about such a movie in 2012 on my first CF trip. I had never heard of it. Ten days later I was back in Melbourne, watching it in a cinema and seeing the very places I had just walked.
Naturally I loved it. There were a couple of scenes I thought not quite believable, but largely it was a pretty good representation of the camino.
NoI never saw the movie you refer to, but possibly a horror movie based on the Camino may keep fewer people from walking. Could that possibly be a good thing?
Me too. I found it fairly entertaining on the couple of occasions I have watched it but I was not particularly moved by it and I feel no great need to watch it again. I sometimes wonder if its most avid fan base is amongst those who first learned of the Caminos by seeing the film and therefore see the movie and the Camino itself as more closely intertwined? I think there may be something of that at play in the extraordinary degree of affection and loyalty which many users of the Brierley guides feel for them too: the lens through which they first encountered the Camino.
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