- Time of past OR future Camino
- 2012, 2013, 2014.
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Or perhaps just a combination of terrain, subtle positioning differences of the bottle, and walking biomechanics . . .Another pilgrim suggested it might be caused by the earth's energy lines that flow along the Camino route.
Thank you VERY much for posting this article!After reading a great article Eric Weiner and posted by WineShoppe Guy in another thread I realised that this article put into words something I have felt in several places both at home and while traveling. Having discussed these feelings with my father in law some years ago (a very wise man, now deceased) he explained it was because something good had happened in these places, or if you experienced a bad feeling or an unexplained sense of fear or dread, then something bad or evil had happened there sometime in the past. These I have experienced as well.
Have you experienced Thin Places at home or while traveling, on the Camino or otherwise, and have these places been significant to just you or others, in other words are Thin Places different for each individual.
I would love to hear your stories or opinions.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/03/1...out-of-old-ways-of-seeing-the-world.html?_r=1
For me the answer to that question is openness of mind. Whether we like to believe it or not we are all conditioned as we grow to follow one belief or another and if that conditioning or belief tells you that this is the right belief and all others are not, then that closes ones mind to many other things in the world and universe IMO. Young children have open minds and they are probably more open to Thin Places. One of my own kids, when he was four, made the hair stand on the back of my neck when he told us he had been before to a place we were visiting for the first time. When questioned he said, a long time ago when I was old I used to fish here with my friends and sometimes I would share the fish with them if they didn't catch any. Further questioning provided no more information, he was back to being a four year old again.I think the more interesting questions revolve around what makes a person more highly attuned to "thin places", or whether "thinness" is a quality reserved just to places, or also to events and persons.
If we posit the existence of "thin places" as an objective reality, then why is it apparent to only some people and only some of the time? Is it even really about the place at all, or is (mostly) about the person beholding it? Do cultural conditioning and belief systems make one more or less likely to perceive "thinness" in various places or people or events? Is the perception a physiological function? Psychological? Spiritual? Does it originate with the person, or arise outside and simply resound within him/her?
I think too that the very conditioning that closes a mind in one direction can also open it wider in others. As I have grown in my faith (Catholicism), I find that I am far more sensitive to "thinness" in sacred spaces and in the sacraments, but probably less so to oak groves and fairy rings (I have those on the brain right now because I had dinner two nights ago with a young man majoring in Irish Studies and the Irish language).For me the answer to that question is openness of mind. Whether we like to believe it or not we are all conditioned as we grow to follow one belief or another and if that conditioning or belief tells you that this is the right belief and all others are not, then that closes ones mind to many other things in the world and universe IMO. Young children have open minds and they are probably more open to Thin Places. One of my own kids, when he was four, made the hair stand on the back of my neck when he told us he had been before to a place we were visiting for the first time. When questioned he said, a long time ago when I was old I used to fish here with my friends and sometimes I would share the fish with them if they didn't catch any. Further questioning provided no more information, he was back to being a four year old again.
Well put koilife, thats the beauty of a good discussion, you learn something new and get another perspective on the issues.I think too that the very conditioning that closes a mind in one direction can also open it wider in others. As I have grown in my faith (Catholicism), I find that I am far more sensitive to "thinness" in sacred spaces and in the sacraments, but probably less so to oak groves and fairy rings (I have those on the brain right now because I had dinner two nights ago with a young man majoring in Irish Studies and the Irish language).
Also, I find the age of things to increase the experiences of thinness. It is mind-boggling, as an American, walking through villages along the Camino where the newest building predates the founding of our country, and most of the churches along the way predate the discovery of our continent. I suspect it has to do with recognition of just how small I am in the great scheme of things. I have similar experiences at the old Mayan and Aztec ruins of Central America and various Native American sites in my own country.
Wayfarer thanks for the NY Times link, and, yes, I am also " drawn to places that beguile and inspire, sedate and stir, places where, for a few blissful moments I loosen my death grip on life, and can breathe again ... locales where the distance between heaven and earth collapses and we’re able to catch glimpses of the divine" I experienched "thiness" at the Château de Cillon near Montreux : Byrons poem on Bonivard, Sian Ka'an in Mexico where "the sky is born" the eastern Escarpment in South Africa and every night the Crux and Milky Way just up here!! Looking forward to experience the Meseta - hope it will be another thin experience!!After reading a great article Eric Weiner and posted by WineShoppe Guy in another thread I realised that this article put into words something I have felt in several places both at home and while traveling. Having discussed these feelings with my father in law some years ago (a very wise man, now deceased) he explained it was because something good had happened in these places, or if you experienced a bad feeling or an unexplained sense of fear or dread, then something bad or evil had happened there sometime in the past. These I have experienced as well.
Have you experienced Thin Places at home or while traveling, on the Camino or otherwise, and have these places been significant to just you or others, in other words are Thin Places different for each individual.
I would love to hear your stories or opinions.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/03/1...out-of-old-ways-of-seeing-the-world.html?_r=1
@Tincatinker: - Avebury - Yes. Also Carnac in a light mist; St James, Lancaut; and many places along the Camino Primitivo, so much so that you can feel when you have strayed or been diverted off the old Way.
Have you experienced Thin Places at home or while traveling, on the Camino or otherwise, and have these places been significant to just you or others, in other words are Thin Places different for each individual.
I would love to hear your stories or opinions.
After reading a great article Eric Weiner and posted by WineShoppe Guy in another thread I realised that this article put into words something I have felt in several places both at home and while traveling. Having discussed these feelings with my father in law some years ago (a very wise man, now deceased) he explained it was because something good had happened in these places, or if you experienced a bad feeling or an unexplained sense of fear or dread, then something bad or evil had happened there sometime in the past. These I have experienced as well.
Have you experienced Thin Places at home or while traveling, on the Camino or otherwise, and have these places been significant to just you or others, in other words are Thin Places different for each individual.
I would love to hear your stories or opinions.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/03/1...out-of-old-ways-of-seeing-the-world.html?_r=1
It's something that I have never felt until I did the spirt way on Camino. Thin places never gave to much thought until now!After reading a great article by Eric Weiner and posted by WineShoppe Guy in another thread I realised that this article put into words something I have felt in several places both at home and while traveling. Having discussed these feelings with my father in law some years ago (a very wise man, now deceased) he explained it was because something good had happened in these places, or if you experienced a bad feeling or an unexplained sense of fear or dread, then something bad or evil had happened there sometime in the past. These I have experienced as well.
Have you experienced Thin Places at home or while traveling, on the Camino or otherwise, and have these places been significant to just you or others, in other words are Thin Places different for each individual.
I would love to hear your stories or opinions.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/03/1...out-of-old-ways-of-seeing-the-world.html?_r=1
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