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Is this only in certain areas?
Here's an article in English about the new requirement in Galicia.I have been in Galicia for the last 6 or so days and reach Santiago tomorrow. I have not been asked for anything re tests / vaccinations at hotels / albergues/ bars / restaurants. Not once and not even heard anyone mention it! Have hardly heard anyone mention COVID apart from reduced capacities in albergues and restaurants. And you don’t need proof of vaccination to enter Spain unless I have missed it!
My guess is that practically no business owner will reject a foreign certificate as long as they can find your name and "COVID vaccination" on it. They don't want to be forgery investigators. They mostly want to run their businesses while complying with the rules.I am fully vaccinated with a certificate in English and Arabic from my country of residence- this I know will get me into Spain but it is it a case that ordinary bar owners will recognise this?
I think this is just for the inside of venues? Doesn’t apply to outside?
The legislation in Portugal says that it does have to be an EU certificate, but I've just read the Galician legislation, and it's less specific. It just says "un certificado emitido polo servizo público de saúde" (a certificate issued by the public health service). It doesn't say which public health service.My guess is that practically no business owner will reject a foreign certificate as long as they can find your name and "COVID vaccination" on it. They don't want to be forgery investigators. They mostly want to run their businesses while complying with the rules.
Put it in a plastic folder or something to avoid it getting damaged and looking less impressive. I am sure it will satisfy any bar / restaurant / hotel owner.
The area of Ferrol is currently not affected by this rule. People who eat in the restaurants of their hotels are not affected by this rule.Had breakfast inside in hotel Almendra in Ferrol this morning, didn't have to show anything. If i hear anything further, will post on here.
The regulation is very new. It was first announced in the newspapers last Wednesday, 21 July. I'm not sure when it first came into force.That is a helpful link Kathar1na/Wendy . I was in Sanxenxo for the previous week on hols and this is considered a dark red area on this map. I was inside in a bar there on Saturday evening, there was no checking of covid pass nor did they really enforce the limit of only 6 people inside.
Was in Arzua evening 25th and morning 26th. Didn’t notice any restrictions.The area of Ferrol is currently not affected by this rule. People who eat in the restaurants of their hotels are not affected by this rule.
@Wendy Werneth helpfully provided a link to an interactive map where the areas that are currently affected by this rule are marked in bright red and dark red: https://coronavirus.sergas.gal/Contidos/Restriccions-concellos
On the Ingles, I see no area on the bright red or dark red level.
On the Frances: Arzua and Melide are coloured bright red.
On the way to the coast: Fisterra is coloured red.
So it would be interesting to hear from people who are currently walking in these areas. Or in the other areas that are marked bright red or dark red in this map of Galicia. The map dates from the 24th, so the rule is very new.
You surely need either proof of double vaccination or a negative test. Fairly sure you can’t just waltz in from wherever with nothing.I have been in Galicia for the last 6 or so days and reach Santiago tomorrow. I have not been asked for anything re tests / vaccinations at hotels / albergues/ bars / restaurants. Not once and not even heard anyone mention it! Have hardly heard anyone mention COVID apart from reduced capacities in albergues and restaurants. And you don’t need proof of vaccination to enter Spain unless I have missed it!
It would be best if the discussion in this thread deals with the documentation that is needed to enter bars and restaurants in Galicia, if any, and leave the discussion about the documentation that is needed to enter Spain to other threads of which there are plenty.You surely need either proof of double vaccination or a negative test. Fairly sure you can’t just waltz in from wherever with nothing.
You surely need either proof of double vaccination or a negative test. Fairly sure you can’t just waltz in from wherever with
I am here in Galicia right now (in a bar) and have been for a week (Galicia not the bar!)! The issue applies to a small numbers of establishments in a number of high risk areas. Indoors only. I was not aware of it until I read about it on here and neither was anyone else I have spoken too. On the ground it’s a non Issue but of course that could change!I am interested to hear from anyone on the ground in Galicia - for me my vaccine certificate is in English and Arabic- although I am an EU passport holder - I am believing that things will all be well but wondering what is happening on the path, like others are of course
The thread title and the first post was misleading as it included hotels. In the meantime, it has been edited to make it clear that only bars and restaurants are concerned by the new rule. And it concerns only small areas, not the whole of Galicia. And the areas concerned can change for better or worse on short notice.Does this apply for accommodation's purpose too in hotel and albergue ?
Hmm, really? The description of the restrictions on the Galician public health system webiste says "ESTABLECEMENTOS DE HOSTALARÍA E RESTAURACIÓN". The word "hostalaría" generally refers to accommodation as well as food. The Portuguese press has certainly interpreted it to include hotels.The thread title and the first post are misleading. In Galicia, the new rule doesn't concern hotels and accommodation. And it concerns only small areas, not the whole of Galicia. And the areas concerned can change for better or worse on short notice.
I rarely comment preferring to enjoy the knowledge passed on by many. However on the only two times I have commented I have been jumped on by you. Are you admin or a moderator? You have made me feel totally unwelcome so thanks to you I will enjoy this forum no longer. Buen camino.It would be best if the discussion in this thread deals with the documentation that is needed to enter bars and restaurants in Galicia, if any, and leave the discussion about the documentation that is needed to enter Spain to other threads of which there are plenty.
But to settle this, @Chef66 is right: between more or less the 21st of May and the 24th of June, travellers from the UK, and @Chef66 may belong to this category, did not need ANY documentation to enter Spain, whether vaccinated or not. This has now changed for travellers from the UK. Or maybe he travelled from Portugal to Spain by land with a similar exemption. But this rule still applies to travellers from other countries such as the USA, Canada or Israel to name a few: if they travel directly from their home country to Spain right now, they can just waltz into Spain with nothing, as you so aptly put it.
Now back to Galicia.
I for one greatly appreciate @Kathar1na's well researched posts.I rarely comment preferring to enjoy the knowledge passed on by many. However on the only two times I have commented I have been jumped on by you. Are you admin or a moderator? You have made me feel totally unwelcome so thanks to you I will enjoy this forum no longer. Buen camino.
Correct - food and drink inside the premises. The order is published here: https://www.xunta.gal/dog/Publicados/excepcional/2021/20210722/2706/AnuncioC3K1-220721-7_gl.pdf . I don't know Galician so I have to go by what Google Translate suggests for section 3.22 Hostalaría e restauración:So I guess it is really only for food service only. No ?
I do hope you will continue to enjoy the forum and please don't allow yourself to feel intimidated by others who might feel the need to contradict and question. Don't take it personally, your contributions are as valid as anyone's..I rarely comment preferring to enjoy the knowledge passed on by many. However on the only two times I have commented I have been jumped on by you. Are you admin or a moderator? You have made me feel totally unwelcome so thanks to you I will enjoy this forum no longer. Buen camino.
I do speak Galician, and in the end I think you are correct. The word "hostalaría" is as ambiguous as the English word "hospitality" in the Google translation. In both languages, I would normally expect that to include accommodation. But since it says hospitality services in bars, cafeterias and restaurants, it seems they are just talking about food and drink in this case.Correct - food and drink inside the premises. The order is published here: https://www.xunta.gal/dog/Publicados/excepcional/2021/20210722/2706/AnuncioC3K1-220721-7_gl.pdf . I don't know Galician so I have to go by what Google Translate suggests for section 3.22 Hostalaría e restauración:
3.22. Hospitality and catering.1. The provision of hospitality and catering services in bars, cafeterias and restaurants shall comply with the following rules,
She’s usually very knowledgeable, but it’s wrong to make anyone feel unwelcome. I do believe many miscommunications are due to this being online (loses something when not in person) and that many speak English as a second language so sometimes how things are said or received get off from the real intent.I rarely comment preferring to enjoy the knowledge passed on by many. However on the only two times I have commented I have been jumped on by you. Are you admin or a moderator? You have made me feel totally unwelcome so thanks to you I will enjoy this forum no longer. Buen camino.
No need to delete or apologise, I think it is a very useful thread and gave us an opportunity to clarify the situation about new requirements for entering bars and restaurants in those towns of Galicia that are on specific epidemiological levels. It's just that readers sometimes only read the title of a thread or the first post and ignore the rest and sometimes even take as fact what is only posted as a question, as in this case, and then contribute to more confusion when posting themselves. You could, if you wanted, edit both the title and your first post and replace "hotels" by "restaurants" but that is entirely up to you.I’m sorry - I posted the first post, only because I wasn’t sure of the new regulations in Galicia and without an EU pass. Please delete if you think it is misleading
Thank you @Kathar1naNo need to delete or apologise, I think it is a very useful thread and gave us an opportunity to clarify the situation about new requirements for entering bars and restaurants in those towns of Galicia that are on specific epidemiological levels. It's just that readers sometimes only read the title of a thread or the first post and ignore the rest and sometimes even take as fact what is only posted as a question, as in this case, and then contribute to more confusion when posting themselves. You could, if you wanted, edited both the title and your first post and replace "hotel" by "restaurants" but that is entirely up to you.
Buen Camino for your trip at the end of August and I hope that the situation in Fisterra has improved by then because it is currently one of the municipalities affected by the new rule.
I have edited my original post to include only bars and restaurants. I’m sure a lot will change over the next month and things may become clearer for those of us coming from outside the EU ( or more opaque!)Thank you @Kathar1na
Thanks! I've now also edited one of my posts to take this change into account. I just like it when information provided in the threads is as accurate as possible.I have edited my original post to include only bars and restaurants. I’m sure a lot will change over the next month and things may become clearer for those of us coming from outside the EU ( or more opaque!)
Good question! Looking at the legal text published by the regional government of Galicia, I was surprised to read in point 3.22. Hostelería y restauración that rapid antigen tests can be used but apparently they have to be done por un laboratorio oficial autorizado, i.e. by an authorised lab or pharmacy. There's also a news item today in La Voz de Galicia, saying that pharmacists have signed an agreement with the regional government of Galicia and that the pharmacists will start issuing certificates for those who test negative on Thursday, i.e. tomorrow.is a simple antigen test from pharmacy sufficient or is one from a laboratory needed (as for foreign travel) ?
We flew in to Madrid today. Very well organised. We had filles in the Spanish passenger locatorthey form, this requires evidence if vaccination certificate.our uk, non eu certificate was fine. We were met by police off the plane to check we had certificates and again after passport control. They scan the qr code on the certificate and you get an immediate email to confirm. All very efficient. Just about to get on the train to Leon to pick up our camino which we couldn't finish last year.Thank you all for replying, I’ll continue to watch the news but if anyone has had any first hand experience of showing a non EU vaccination certificate id be grateful to hear your experience. I will check the Spanish article ( once I figure out the translation tool) for the relevant municipalities currently implementing the rule - maybe Santiago- Finisterre is not yet enforcing! But things can change quickly
Thank you. Do let us know how you get on if you need to show it in bars and restaurants. I’d forgotten about the pre registration. Spanish online form - maybe that will also be accepted in bars in the more strict areas? I will be travelling with a sinopharm vaccine certificate - which Spain is one of the few countries to recognise ( I don’t want to derail conversation to vaccine efficacy etc and I’ll be having a booster shot before I travel) but having the official Spanish online approval to enter might also be helpful to showWe flew in to Madrid today. Very well organised. We had filles in the Spanish passenger locatorthey form, this requires evidence if vaccination certificate.our uk, non eu certificate was fine. We were met by police off the plane to check we had certificates and again after passport control. They scan the qr code on the certificate and you get an immediate email to confirm. All very efficient. Just about to get on the train to Leon to pick up our camino which we couldn't finish last year.
You came in from airport and with which passport?I have been in Galicia for the last 6 or so days and reach Santiago tomorrow. I have not been asked for anything re tests / vaccinations at hotels / albergues/ bars / restaurants. Not once and not even heard anyone mention it! Have hardly heard anyone mention COVID apart from reduced capacities in albergues and restaurants. And you don’t need proof of vaccination to enter Spain unless I have missed it!
Apparently, there will be a few more areas that are coloured bright red and dark red as of this Saturday 31 July 2021 and where I suppose the new rule about bars and restaurants will apply.@Wendy Werneth helpfully provided a link to an interactive map where the areas that are currently affected by this rule are marked in bright red and dark red: https://coronavirus.sergas.gal/Contidos/Restriccions-concellos
On the Ingles, I see no area on the bright red or dark red level.
On the Frances: Arzua and Melide are coloured bright red.
On the way to the coast: Fisterra is coloured bright red.
Apparently, there will be a few more areas that are coloured bright red and dark red as of this Saturday 31 July 2021 and where I suppose the new rule about bars and restaurants will apply.
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From todays newspaper,Interesting - I can see/read about 3 concellos on the Camino de Invierno affected by this: Chantada, Monforte, O Barco. Would be interesting to hear from someone out there now.
N.B: there is no need to show a PCR to enter bars & restaurants at medium level.From todays newspaper,
Live: Six councils are added to the maximum level and the seven cities are already at the high level
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The Regional Minister of Health explains the restrictions agreed at the last meeting
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The Minister of Health, Julio García Comesaña announced that a telephone will be enabled to notify the positives that are discovered when doing the antigen tests available in pharmacies. He also warned that in the Galician ucis there are patients between 29 and 40 years old, and he asks for special caution from the youngest, where most of the covid-19 infections are also concentrated. It also ensures that not even half of those summoned attend the screenings and reiterates the citizen collaboration. From today, the seven Galician cities are at the top level together with the councils of A Pobra, Ames, As Pontes, Arteixo, Cambre, Cariño, Ortigueira, Chantada, Monforte, Verín, Bueu, A Guarda, Meis, Moaña, Mos , Pontecaldelas, O Porriño, Redondela, Ribadumia and Soutomaior.
At the maximum level there are twelve localities, which are Muros, Baiona, Burela, Foz, Viveiro, Monterroso, Boiro, O Barco, Cambados, Meaño, O Grove and Sanxenxo. Despite the measures "a situation is bad," he explained.
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Review of the councils by levels
Maximum level: Baiona, Boiro, Burela, Cambados, Foz, Meaño, Monterroso, Muros, O Barco de Valdeorras, O Grove, Sanxenxo and Viveiro
High level: A Coruña, A Guarda, A Illa de Arousa, A Pobra do Caramiñal, Ames, Arteixo, Arzúa, As Pontes de García Rodríguez, Avión, Barbadás, Bueu, Cambre, Carballo, Cariño, Cervo, Chantada, Culleredo, Ferrol , Fisterra, Gondomar, Lugo, Marín, Meis, Melide, Moaña, Monforte de Lemos, Mos, Nigrán, O Carballiño, O Porriño, O Rosal, Oleiros, Ortigueira, Ourense, Poio, Ponte Caldelas, Pontevedra, Redondela, Ribadeo, Ribadumia , Ribeira, Santiago de Compostela, Soutomaior, Tomiño, Verín, Vigo, Vilagarcía de Arousa and Vilanova de Arousa
Medium level : A Cañiza, A Capela, A Lama, A Pobra de Trives, A Rúa, Arbo, As Neves, Barreiros, Barro, Beariz, Bergondo, Boborás, Brión, Caldas de Reis, Cangas, Carnota, Cedeira, Cee, Celanova , Coles, Corcubión, Coristanco, Curtis, Maceda, Mondoñedo, Monterrei, Narón, Noia, O Pereiro de Aguiar, O Valadouro, Oroso, Outes, Padrón, Ponteareas, Pontecesures, Pontedeume, Rábade, Rianxo, Ribadavia, Riós, Sada, San Cibrao das Viñas, Sarria, Silleda, Teo, Toques, Tui, Valdoviño, Vilaboa, Vilalba, Vilamartín de Valdeorras and Vimianzo
The answer is No , and why not wait a few weeks get your second vaccination and than after a few weeks start travelling.If anybody knows if it is also possible to get the second jab in Spain that would also be super helpful.
Hi @AidanLing, as you are already in Spain and started the Camino Frances in SJPP two weeks ago, you may know more about this by now than we in the global online forum community know. You must be in Castilla y Leon by now and then onto Galicia.I am starting the Camino Monday and due to limitations I have only been able to get the first jab so the Galician leg could be difficult. If anybody knows if it is also possible to get the second jab in Spain that would also be super helpful.
All I know is that the French QR code is needed in france to go anywhere. I had my Canadian vaccination papers transferred over to the French QR code at a pharmacie for 20€. Not all pharmacies do it though. I had double Pfizer.I wonder if anyone has had any direct experience of the new requirement in Galicia to show proof of vaccination to enter bars and restaurants? Is this only in certain areas? I am planning a repeat Finisterre Camino at the end of August ( I know things may change drastically by then) and I am fully vaccinated with a certificate in English and Arabic from my country of residence- this I know will get me into Spain but it is it a case that ordinary bar owners will recognise this? If anyone with a non EU certificate, or knowledgeable forum members has any experience of this I would be very grateful. With thanks as always
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