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A decision as to whether or not take a map and/or guide is very personal.hieudovan said:A couple of friends who plan to walk the CF next year asked me what maps/guides I would recommend.
vagabondette said:did you find that you used your map a lot? Most of what i've read indicates that, especially on the CF, a map isn't necessary.
Thanks. I have told them similar sentiments. For those of you who have these 2 maps (Brierley and Cole), what is the actual weight of each edition? I am just curious. I know that the Cole is lighter, but not THAT light (.8 ounce). Buen Camino. Hieufraluchi said:A decision as to whether or not take a map and/or guide is very personal.hieudovan said:A couple of friends who plan to walk the CF next year asked me what maps/guides I would recommend.
The CF in Spain is so well marked that one doesn't need a map. Follow the yellow arrows and the crowd :roll:
As far as guides are concerned, most of them are quickly outdated between the time they are written/updated and for sale on the shelves.
My advice is to research Internet sites concerning aspects on the Camino which may particularly appeal to you (Godesalco, Consumer.es, Caminoasantiago, etc.) AND of course check this Forum ( :wink: !) with its exhaustive "questions asked before" base.
And once your friends are on the Camino they will most probably be diverted from their text book by original and genuine experiences.
David said:Go for the Michelin Camino de Santiago Maps & Full Guide - 80 pages
The brilliant Michelin Camino Guide from St. Jean Pied de Port to Santiago de Compostela
Perfect 1/150,000 clear maps and with everything you need to know
and weighs just 84gms - less than 3 ounces! :wink:
The CF in Spain is so well marked that one doesn't need a map. Follow the yellow arrows and the crowd
The Camino Frances paradox; two incompatible statements that are true!they will most probably be diverted from their text book by original and genuine experiences.
Were you unhappy to be lost David? On the Frances if you haven't seen an arrow or fellow pilgrim for more than about 10 minutes you start asking yourself questions, unless it is a very straight track where you can't go wrong. You just wanted to do a bit of exploring, didn't you? Nothing wrong with that.David said:I got lost! There was a dusty open area, dry, arid. The path forked, I took the right-hand and was lost for hours and hours and hours and hours, miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles - I should have taken the left-hand path. :?
Ah, the Camino as a reflection of everyday life! But did you learn/see something that you would have missed if you had taken the well-trodden path? One valuable lesson is that if it doesn't feel right, it probably isn't right - if you haven't seen an arrow in 10 minutes, retrace your steps.David said:I got lost! There was a dusty open area, dry, arid. The path forked, I took the right-hand and was lost for hours and hours and hours and hours, miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles - I should have taken the left-hand path. :?
julie said:I never felt the need for maps on the Camino Frances but do like to know how far it is to the next coffee or the next albergue. That information can be contained on one double-sided page http://www.asantiago.org/distancias.pdf
I also like to know what is in store for me each day so carry a profile of the route (again one double-sided page) http://www.aucoeurduchemin.org/spip/IMG ... s_voir.pdf
Amazon.com says the shipping weight is .8 oz. That is hard to believe! A review:Camino de Santiago Map 2nd edition by Ben Cole & Bethan Davies
This Map Book provides just enough and not to much information. It's also rain resistant and light weight {you'll appreciate the weight about Kilometer 100}.
falcon269 said:Amazon.com says the shipping weight is .8 oz. That is hard to believe! A review:Camino de Santiago Map 2nd edition by Ben Cole & Bethan DaviesThis Map Book provides just enough and not to much information. It's also rain resistant and light weight {you'll appreciate the weight about Kilometer 100}.
Walking the Camino de Santiago Publisher: Pili Pala Press; 3th (third) edition Text Only [Paperback]
Bethan Davies Ben Cole Daphne Hnatiuk (Author)
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sagalouts said:just stand still looking lost-locals/farmers/small children/dogs will point and wave,or when you are in the zone birds will shout at you and butterflies will show you the way :arrow:
Ian
sagalouts said:just stand still looking lost-locals/farmers/small children/dogs will point and wave
Stephen Nicholls said:Hey! Dazzamac - you've found the right guide, but you haven't found the right shorts yet!
julie said:I never felt the need for maps on the Camino Frances but do like to know how far it is to the next coffee or the next albergue. That information can be contained on one double-sided page http://www.asantiago.org/distancias.pdf
I also like to know what is in store for me each day so carry a profile of the route (again one double-sided page) http://www.aucoeurduchemin.org/spip/IMG ... s_voir.pdf
Stephen Nicholls said:Are we becoming a little obsessed with the weight of a guide?
If you lose another pound you will increase the percentage of pack to body weight. Much better to put on weight so you can carry a heavier pack. A bit of weird logic for those who adhere to the idea of carrying "no more than 10% of your bodyweight"jeff001 said:If you are worried about the weight of the Brierley guide (10 oz) just carry that much less water with you. That would be slightly more than one cup. Better yet, lose another pound before you leave home and you will more than make up for it.
I have had my say about this elsewhere, but the conundrum is resolved by noting that these rules have an implicit assumption that one is some 'ideal weight'. I recommend using one's BMI=25 equivalent weight if one is overweight. What is still a conundrum is whether one should subtract one's excess weight from the pack weight allowance. For some of us, there might be no pack weight allowance left :?julie said:If you lose another pound you will increase the percentage of pack to body weight. Much better to put on weight so you can carry a heavier pack. A bit of weird logic for those who adhere to the idea of carrying "no more than 10% of your bodyweight"
Thank you Ping.PingHansen said:Indeed. I just guess us two nerds wouldn't risk someone taking her seriously :mrgreen:
Thanks David. Glad someone's on my wavelength. It didn't dawn on me that some people would take me seriously.David said:hhmm .. I think you will find that the adding a pound to one's weight etc was humour, not serious, just humour. If one looks really carefully one can even see the laughter smilie
:wink:
I think Ping and I were on your wavelength, julie, its others we worry about. I also think you will find we both responded in a similar vein to your original, and tried to maintain the humour. I was a little surprised some others weren't able to detect that :roll:.julie said:Thanks David. Glad someone's on my wavelength. It didn't dawn on me that some people would take me seriously.
They said it would be ready for early 2012. I'm still waiting.Aldy said:This said, this year I am considering the online version of Miam Miam Dodo - if it gets published before I leave.
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