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Yeah, VA does not count when it comes to "'cold" weather and wearing shorts. In your temps, Montrealers would be running around in the buff! As for jeans being a hazard in the cold ... we do wear them all year long, even in 30 below temps. When crossing a lake then yes, deadlyI like jeans and really like shorts. I wear shorts in winter because as long as I keep my core protected...I am comfortable and can survive inclement weather. Jeans are a hazard when wet and the temps are cold. As your body begins to withdraw blood upward, it causes you extremities to lose muscle integrity.
Lucky, with some exceptions, there are fixes all along the Way.
Following all the discussion in this thread about jeans I feel that I should make a confession….
I walked in my jeans on the Camino Frances…
and I also took a Benetton wool cardigan with me…
I took stretchy cropped jeans that didn’t weigh too much, I took them because I had them (so didn’t need to buy anything else), I hike in them all the time at home, I can wear them for a while without needing to wash them and they are super comfortable. I also tool my cardigan because it was something I already had, it also doesn’t weigh much, after being outside all day I tend to get chilled even on summer evenings and it made an extremely versatile extra layer.
I know the dangers of walking in wet jeans and wouldn’t have gone up a mountain in them in bad weather but I was perfectly happy walking in my jeans. I think it’s nice to have special hiking gear but it’s not the end of the world to walk in what you have.
I saw a few pilgrims wearing jeans, and non-lightweight, non-high tech jackets....oh no! The heathens! ha ha
How were they ever able to walk the Camino without shopping around for six months, spending a thousand dollars, analyzing and re-analyzing the weight of the gear, the advantages and disadvantages of woolen fibers versus synthetics, doing research papers on the habits and life cycles of bedbugs and their tolerances to poisons....
Well, it was 0 degrees Fahrenheit this morning in Northern Virginia where I currently live, wind chill of -9. That's cold anywhere. Or at least we considered it cold when I lived in Syracuse.Yeah, VA does not count when it comes to "'cold" weather and wearing shorts.
I've always been a happy bumblebee in my corduroy cargo trousers (and cotton socks)Following all the discussion in this thread about jeans I feel that I should make a confession….
I walked in my jeans on the Camino Frances…
and I also took a Benetton wool cardigan with me…
I took stretchy cropped jeans that didn’t weigh too much, I took them because I had them (so didn’t need to buy anything else), I hike in them all the time at home, I can wear them for a while without needing to wash them and they are super comfortable. I also tool my cardigan because it was something I already had, it also doesn’t weigh much, after being outside all day I tend to get chilled even on summer evenings and it made an extremely versatile extra layer.
I know the dangers of walking in wet jeans and wouldn’t have gone up a mountain in them in bad weather but I was perfectly happy walking in my jeans. I think it’s nice to have special hiking gear but it’s not the end of the world to walk in what you have.
Reb, besides the fact that you look great in jeansI wear jeans when hiking in winter, esp. in the mountains (with silk long underwear beneath.) You can't see thorn bushes, undergrowth, or barbed wire under the snow, and I have learned to my cost that "technical" fabrics do not stand up to that kind of hard use. Jeans are warm, when well-worn-in and dirty they seem to repel a lot of dirt and mud, and if you wear gaiters the wetness is cut way down. Most mountain shelters or albergues have some kind of heater, or at least a hot-water heater. I hang the damp jeans over/near that, and have never suffered hypothermia or other such damp-fabric horrors.
When people diss others for their jeans, I just raise an eyebrow. They've been listening too long to the gear salesmen, I suspect...
A Scottish naval officer (retired) with whom I walked for a day on the Primitivo was wearing a kilt. He told me that it was far more practical in wet weather than trousers as the fabric repelled moisture and, while his feet and lower legs would get wet as easily as they would if wearing trousers, all he had to do was change his socks. As well, he said that he oft received the admiring glances of Spanish women for his splendid legs.
I didn't see too many corpses or skeletons of foolish peregrinos clad only in cotton fibers littering the edge of the Camino.But the questions is: did they live to tell about it?
I totally agree Annie - after all, the early Pilgrims wore whatever was available - I tend to think, that where there are too many choices, one can get so bogged down in the planning of something, then lose concentration on the more practical aspects.....just saying.I think people should wear whatever they can afford (and want) to wear!
Yeah, well, many can afford whatever - didn't Annie just post about thrift stores?- but don't know any better about the realities of day after day in often rough weather, and I don't mean sunny 30 degrees?I totally agree Annie - after all, the early Pilgrims wore whatever was available - I tend to think, that where there are too many choices, one can get so bogged down in the planning of something, then lose concentration on the more practical aspects.....just saying.
It's not about the money, it's about the realities of what one can wear. I may be willing to pay a lot for an item, but it still has to fit me. And there are very few clothes made for a woman my size.??? I am not sure I understand what you're saying?
??? I am not sure I understand what you're saying?
Sorry, but like Anniesantiago, I am not sure what your point actually is??It's not about the money, it's about the realities of what one can wear. I may be willing to pay a lot for an item, but it still has to fit me. And there are very few clothes made for a woman my size.
LOL...LOL... I carried my complete Brierly Guide, plus a separate volume of his more slender one containing maps and abreviated info.....either/or would have been just as good.!!Your confession has given me the courage to admit a grievous sin that I committed everyday on the Camino as well. I have been building up the courage to admit for some time, and this thread seems like the perfect opportunity. So here it goes. I carried not one, but two guidebooks. There, I said. I carried two guidebooks. Oh, boy does that make me feel better to get that off my chest.
Oh! No! This has turned into a confessionalLOL...LOL... I carried my complete Brierly Guide, plus a separate volume of his more slender one containing maps and abreviated info.....either/or would have been just as good.!!
As do I Stephen, as do I...!Oh! No! This has turned into a confessional
Then I must admit my many sins ... I always carry Brierly [adds so much to my camino] AND a map, AND a camera. Now my son is leading me further astray, and had given me an iPhone. Oh, deary me - it has a map function, AND have you seen the brilliant Forum app that not only tells you where the nearest lodgings and food are to be found, but tells you which other peregrinos are within 60 kms or is it 600 kms???!!!
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa
[And I enjoy every one of these things!]
I like jeans and really like shorts. I wear shorts in winter because as long as I keep my core protected...I am comfortable and can survive inclement weather. Jeans are a hazard when wet and the temps are cold. As your body begins to withdraw blood upward, it causes you extremities to lose muscle integrity.
Lucky, with some exceptions, there are fixes all along the Way.
I live in VA now, but I grew up in IL and Wisconsin. I also served with a Norwegian Army guard company at Sor-Voranger above the Arctic Circle. So I know cold. Did I wear shorts there, of course under my cold weather trousersYeah, VA does not count when it comes to "'cold" weather and wearing shorts. In your temps, Montrealers would be running around in the buff! As for jeans being a hazard in the cold ... we do wear them all year long, even in 30 below temps. When crossing a lake then yes, deadly
I sometimes wear my jeans to the dogrun in silly weather only to regret it. If you have worn jeans and shorts and been comfy in the Arctic Circle, well, good for you. Could not imagine it. But jean and short companies would love to have you as a spokes person I'm sure.I live in VA now, but I grew up in IL and Wisconsin. I also served with a Norwegian Army guard company at Sor-Voranger above the Arctic Circle. So I know cold. Did I wear shorts there, of course under my cold weather trousers
Back then I was young and indestructible. Today, I just like wearing shortsI sometimes wear my jeans to the dogrun in silly weather only to regret it. If you have worn jeans and shorts and been comfy in the Arctic Circle, well, good for you. Could not imagine it. But jean and short companies would love to have you as a spokes person I'm sure.
Shorts in VA or the Arctic? Have this image of an man over 24, cold in the arctic, with his shorts and a t on, and I want to cry for him ;0)Back then I was young and indestructible. Today, I just like wearing shorts
In the Arctic, I was 42. This year I will be 70. As Paul Simon sang, "Still Crazy After All These Years".Shorts in VA or the Arctic? Have this image of an man over 24, cold in the arctic, with his shorts and a t on, and I want to cry for him ;0)
Arn, I do not dare ask what you will be sporting when you turn 90! ;0)In the Arctic, I was 42. This year I will be 70. As Paul Simon sang, "Still Crazy After All These Years".
Following all the discussion in this thread about jeans I feel that I should make a confession….
I walked in my jeans on the Camino Frances…
and I also took a Benetton wool cardigan with me…
I took stretchy cropped jeans that didn’t weigh too much, I took them because I had them (so didn’t need to buy anything else), I hike in them all the time at home, I can wear them for a while without needing to wash them and they are super comfortable. I also tool my cardigan because it was something I already had, it also doesn’t weigh much, after being outside all day I tend to get chilled even on summer evenings and it made an extremely versatile extra layer.
I know the dangers of walking in wet jeans and wouldn’t have gone up a mountain in them in bad weather but I was perfectly happy walking in my jeans. I think it’s nice to have special hiking gear but it’s not the end of the world to walk in what you have.
.....to walk the Camino it's wise to do a rough cost benefit analysis before spending a fortune. What have you already got that will suffice?
1. Al, if you had things you no longer use, is that because they weren't needed, or too heavy to carry in your dotage?I went into a local outdoors shop on Monday to buy new insoles. The salesman asked if I wanted anything else. I said no and that I needed to get out fast as I already have two backpacks, a waist bag and a plethora of other stuff I no longer use.I felt really good about myself for walking in, selecting the insoles I went for and not browsing.
You don't fool me Al with these confessions of yours, have you given up the Mail order Outdoor web site browsing?I went into a local outdoors shop on Monday to buy new insoles. The salesman asked if I wanted anything else. I said no and that I needed to get out fast as I already have two backpacks, a waist bag and a plethora of other stuff I no longer use.I felt really good about myself for walking in, selecting the insoles I went for and not browsing.
I'm close...I already wear shorts most of the year. Not much left to lose.Arn - to point 1. Yes and yes! 4 years behind you pal. When I get to your age I will have to go starkers.
I went into a local outdoors shop on Monday to buy new insoles. The salesman asked if I wanted anything else. I said no and that I needed to get out fast as I already have two backpacks, a waist bag and a plethora of other stuff I no longer use.I felt really good about myself for walking in, selecting the insoles I went for and not browsing. [/QUOTE ]
Al. can you suggest any outdoor style shops in London/Lancashire? I'll be back in Blighty for a month or so in July/August and will need to buy my Camino gear. I'm aiming for mid/late April 2016 but this will be my only shopping trip. I have some basics-jacket, sleep bag liner, trousers etc Mail order from here is not trustworthy and, if stuff actually arrives, the import tax is crazy. I don't plan on spending mega quids but ££ spent on decent socks may well save time,pain and money en route. Thanks. Here is Tanzania, my home away from home
I may take my comfy jeans with me in April on my upcoming short Slack Packing Camino from Sarria to Santiago. Shhhhhh . . . . . don't tell anybody.
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