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Thanks for the information...Hola
It is hot in Santiago and the Pilgrims’ Office has been very busy. During August alone over 51,000 Compostelas were issued. As Europe went on holiday for August and pilgrims from Spain and Italy headed for the Camino pilgrims from the USA slipped down the country league table...but still maintained an overall growth rate of 12%. Read the full analysis :
www.johnniewalker-santiago.blogspot.com
That' s an interesting question, and I doubt whether anybody can give a qualified answer. We know from the Pilgrims' Office in Santiago the number of pilgrims who declared having started in SJPP. But tying up these numbers with the statistical information of leavers in SJPP is guesswork. There are those who have split their Camino over various years (many French, German and Italian walkers do this) and are appearing in the Santiago numbers of this month/year when in fact they started in another month/year. Not counting the ones who dropped off half way to Santiago.Is there a big difference in how many start in St Jean to how many finish in Santiago ?
Hola!
Maybe it's a bit off topic since there's a debate about numbers, but I'm still not sure what's the difference between:
- Religious or Spiritual
and
- Religious.
???
It is haunting me back from 2009 when I've had to tick that window for the first time in SJPdP pilgrim's office. I admit I kind of know what that is all about (and I definitely don't like it) but I'm still interested in hearing more or less formal definition from any of you.
Thanks in advance!
PS (Oh, I forgot to ask moderators to inform me in case of any negative points given to me or whichever they called them after almost six centuries)
Me too. On the one hand you could argue that few people go to all the trouble, expense and often pain of a Camino for a piece of paper, but on the other hand you could point to the number of pilgrims starting in Sarria as evidence of its importance.I often wonder if so many people would walk a Camino if no paper were given. Something we will never know.
Does anyone have a copy of the hike, tour, sporting event certificate, I'm just interested to see what it looks like.
....and it would be helpful if conclusions were correct.Articles on the Camino are becoming much more regular in newspapers. Arrivals did not seem to make the news in years past, but they get attention these days.
http://www.laregion.es/articulo/soc...santiago-septiembre/20141001135503495404.html
The sum of the posted number each day is 34,458 compostelas for September. That is about a 10% increase over last year, and an average over 1,100 per day.
Where, indeed? The monthly numbers this year, from April until September, have been getting close to those which were recorded during the Holy Year in 2010. I would guess that 2014 will end with approx. 234'000 arrivals, against 272'000 of 2010; only 38'000 short (16%). A repeat in 2015 of this year's approx. 9% increase against 2013 will unlikely reach the volumes registered during 2010.YI[...] One does wonder where this trend is headed...
Where, indeed? The monthly numbers this year, from April until September, have been getting close to those which were recorded during the Holy Year in 2010. I would guess that 2014 will end with approx. 234'000 arrivals, against 272'000 of 2010; only 38'000 short (16%). A repeat in 2015 of this year's approx. 9% increase against 2013 will unlikely reach the volumes registered during 2010.
As soon as the October figures are published (20'000 arrivals guess) it will be possible to better picture trends along the various Caminos, the Francés in particular.
Hi Cliff.Hola Johnny Walker, ( great name )
You have a good handle on the numbers, wondering if you could give me some advice.
I'm planning to walk the Camino Bayona to Burgos then to Santiago. I was thinking of leaving the end of august.
However after reading some of the post , making me think to leave the middle of September. I could leave the end of September too, . Could you give me your thoughts on the better time to leave to avoid the crowds.
Doesn't look like the Bayona Camino would be too busy, don't see it mentioned very often.
My concern is from B urges to Santiago. My wife is meeting me in Leon, it's her first time on the French Camino. So like to make it as enjoyable as possible. Getting up at o400 to get a bed in the next stop doesn't appeal to either of us.
I would appreciate your thoughts,
Respectfully
Cliff
qHi Cliff.
Michael is right - by delaying a bit it could be significantly quieter.
The number of pilgrims across the Camino Frances isn't as simple as the overall figures appear. Although pilgrim arrivals in Santiago peak in August and then decline through autumn, this pattern is only really true of the last part from Astorga and especially Sarria. The Camino before Astorga has a pattern of 3 peaks; spring, summer and autumn. The autumn wave is shorter than the others, but if you find yourself in that wave it will be significantly busier than perhaps a couple of weeks before or after.
These graphs show the patterns as I estimate them from last year's figures. Don't take them as gospel, but just as an indication of what the patterns are and approximately when/where they happen. Michael also mentions 'mini-waves' at weekends, which aren't shown in the graphs as I had no way of estimating their impact in different places with any accuracy.
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...e-the-busy-periods-on-the-camino-frances.114/
Buen Camino!
Thank You for the advice, I'm looking at September 14' or 15 . I'm thinking of doing the camino Bayona. To Burgos then to santiago. The Bayonna Camino doesn't seem to be too busy. By the time I arrive in Burgos I maybe behind the wave. I'm not really too concerned about the numbers, just can't see getting up at 0400 to secure a bed in another town. Half way thinking of bringing a superlite hammock. If I find I don't need it I'll leave it behind.Cliff, I think Johnny is on holiday but in answer to your question: the later you leave in the fall, the fewer people you will encounter. Avoiding leaving certain cities (SJPdP, Pamplona, Burgos, Leon and, especially Sarria) on a weekend will also help keep you out of the bigger waves. Staying in places where the guidebooks end their recommended stages will also mean that you will be with larger groups so you may want to try to avoid those places if you really want to be out of crowds. Buen Camino!
Thank You for the advice, I'm looking at September 14' or 15 . I'm thinking of doing the camino Bayona. To Burgos then to santiago. The Bayonna Camino doesn't seem to be too busy. By the time I arrive in Burgos I maybe behind the wave. I'm not really too concerned about the numbers, just can't see getting up at 0400 to secure a bed in another town. Half way thinking of bringing a superlite hammock. If I find I don't need it I'll leave it behind.
Thanks Again,
Gracias
Cliff
I have this image of someone trying to string up a hammock on the Meseta ... using wind turbines as there is nothing else.
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