- Time of past OR future Camino
- To Santiago + back
2400 km + 950 nmi
160 days
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I don't get it. Who/what is this?a "Jack from Ireland" was mentioned, to great hilarity all around.
Ah! I see! I saw the movie but think it was on a small screen on an airplane. I clearly didn't commit the details to memory.I suppose they mean the Irish gentleman from the movie "The Way"
I think Estevez picked up the "angel" concept from Camino lore. Jack did not invent it in the film, I don't think. The term has been in the Forum almost from its start. Good deeds abound. That may or may not qualify for "angel" status, but it is a nice tradition.I suppose they mean the Irish gentleman from the movie "The Way"
The U.S. is 500 years old. The Appalachian Trail was started in 1923, and became nominally a part of the National Park Service in 1968, which is still acquiring parts of it."Camino Angel" may come from the very long tradition, here in the states, of being a "Trail Angel" on one of the three long distances trails here
The U.S. is 500 years old. The Appalachian Trail was started in 1923, and became nominally a part of the National Park Service in 1968, which is still acquiring parts of it.
The Camino de Santiago goes back to the 9th century.
While it is possible that an American tradition affected a European tradition, I would go with a less U.S.-centric opinion that it is the other way around.
Link didn't work for me.For further comments regarding angels or anges et le chemin de Saint Jacques see this French posting.
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Oops. Enjoyed reading the post, though.That may be because it was posted in 2015.
I vividly remember a statue of Saint Raphael in Burgos Cathedral with wings, fish and pilgrim garb. However, can you name a single legend where an angel or angels protected or saved pilgrims on the way to Santiago? I doubt it. They were all protected or saved by Saint James.Raphael is often depicted with a pilgrim staff, gourd, and fish.
There is such an abundance of folklore in every pueblo. With all those statues of Raphael helping travelers up and down the country, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a story about him protecting people on their way to Santiago. Perhaps it's just hard to compete with Saint James for headlines. Maybe Raphael just pointed out arrows that were difficult to spot or something. I'm sure if you ask around, you'll get to hear the story of Saint Raphael of the improved way finding and better directions.I vividly remember a statue of Saint Raphael in Burgos Cathedral with wings, fish and pilgrim garb. However, can you name a single legend where an angel or angels protected or saved pilgrims on the way to Santiago? I doubt it. They were all protected or saved by Saint James.
And what's the origin of "trail angel"?My money is still firmly on "trail angel" as the origin for the term "camino angel".
But note that it is used there as if it were already a commonly known term among hikers.For the linguistically inclined: the earliest citation of "trail angel" (found so far) refers apparently to a 1994 book titled Walking the Appalachian Trail by Larry Luxenberg.
Wait, wait. (Really) stupid question alert, but who is this guy? And what's with the fish?Saint Raphael the Archangel. Raphael is often depicted with a pilgrim staff, gourd, and fish.
The wikipedia link that I attached is a good way to start, but since you asked, here's my unofficial summary:Wait, wait. (Really) stupid question alert, but who is this guy? And what's with the fish?
Raphael is the mate of Gabriel, Michael, and UrielWait, wait. (Really) stupid question alert, but who is this guy? And what's with the fish?
Another layer of protection along the way?
Yes, please....I'll take it!
My question did not refer to angels in the traditional sense appearing to people on or off the camino.And more directly on topic...what about our friends Shirley and Paolo? I'm surprised no-one's brought them up because those books were full of angels.
In terms of terminology use.... My first (of 11) Caminos was in 2002 and I do not think that I heard it or ran into it in writing before 2012 or so. Camino family was a phrase I heard after a few stops back in 2002, but Camino angels seems to be fairly new. Perhaps, as others have suggested, it came into general use from the US trail angel idea?? I may not be using the search function on the Forum correctly, but the earliest use here is from 2017. Has someone found an earlier appearance in writing?
"Camino angel" used in the sense I mean: according to a Google search, the first time in a blog in 2008, and on the forum the first time in 2009. Both times, American English speakers.Camino family was a phrase I heard after a few stops back in 2002, but Camino angels seems to be fairly new. Perhaps, as others have suggested, it came into general use from the US trail angel idea?? I may not be using the search function on the Forum correctly, but the earliest use here is from 2017. Has someone found an earlier appearance in writing?
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