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Yes I did, and thoroughly enjoyed it. An interesting place and a very beautiful walk. See here:Monday 03 June: walk to Medino del Rio. There appears to be an alternative route via Santa Espina. Anyone been? Worth doing?
Yes I did, and thoroughly enjoyed it. An interesting place and a very beautiful walk. See here:
Not sure I have a favourite Camino, but if i did......it would be the CdM.
Tim
I hope you will agree it is worth while.Thanks Tim. Looks like you have just added 10kms to my itinerary ;-)
I leave for the Lana this Saturday,
I walked the Camino de Madrid last June. You can see my reports along the way in this thread. As you'll see, I went to Santa Espina - and on to Urueña (based on the virtual Camino thread here). I stayed in La Granja, but the place I stayed seems to have closed. I can't recommend a place in Simancas because I stayed in the nice albergue in Puente Duero.Hello
I am in the planning phase of the Camino de Madrid. Hoping to start walking in late May. The Confraternity of James' guidebook in out of print and no longer available, so I have been basing my research on the Virtual Camino de Madrid thread on this Forum (extremely helpful) and picking up bits and pieces from the internet - in Spanish, not my forte.
I like to walk with a rough idea of where I am going to be and when I am going to be there, if only so as not to arrive somewhere and find the visit is closed because its a Monday in a month that doesn't have 31 days, a Tuesday when the janitor always has his or her day off, etc.... ;-)
My outline presently is:
Tuesday 21 May: fly out to Madrid. Couple of nights in Madrid. Visit the Asociasion office. Walk from the church of Santiago to at least Plaza de Castilla (further if there is a convenient metro stop en-route?). Day in San Lorenzo de el Escorial.
Thursday 23 May: Walk to Colmenar Viejo from Plaza de Castilla metro.
Friday 24 May: walk to Cercedilla.
Saturday 25 May: walk to La Granja de San Ildefonso*.
Sunday 26: walk to Segovia.
Monday 27 May: in Segovia.
Tuesday 28 May: walk to Santa Maria de Real de Nieva.
Wednesday 29 May: walk to Coca (Castillo seems to require booking 48 hours prior?).
Thursday 30 May: walk to Alcazeren.
Friday 31 May: walk into Valladolid and get bus to Tordesillas (overnight in Tordesillas). I've been to Valladolid relatively recently so I have no need to tarry there.
Saturday 01 June: walk GR14 along the Duero back to Puente Duero or Simancas**.
Sunday 02 June: walk to Penaflor de Hornija. As far as I can work out Womba church and ossuary should be open to visit.
Monday 03 June: walk to Medino del Rio. There appears to be an alternative route via Santa Espina. Anyone been? Worth doing?
Tuesday 04 June: walk to Villalon de Campos.
Wednesday 05 June: walk to Sahagun.
Thursday 06 June: fly home out of Santander. My flight is early in the day so I may need to get to Santander the previous evening and cut out a day somewhere (Segovia?). Any other ideas on how else to save a day?
* any recommendations as to where to stay in La Granja de San Idelfonso? I understand the albergue in Valsain to be closed.
** any recommendations as to where to stay in Simancas?
All thoughts/recommendations welcome.
Thanks.
I walked the Camino de Madrid in October 2023. In looking at my notes, I stayed at Hotel Pago del Olivo in Simancas and it was very nice, and it offered a good breakfast in the morning with fresh squeezed orange juice before we left; highly recommend.Hello
I am in the planning phase of the Camino de Madrid. Hoping to start walking in late May. The Confraternity of James' guidebook in out of print and no longer available, so I have been basing my research on the Virtual Camino de Madrid thread on this Forum (extremely helpful) and picking up bits and pieces from the internet - in Spanish, not my forte.
I like to walk with a rough idea of where I am going to be and when I am going to be there, if only so as not to arrive somewhere and find the visit is closed because its a Monday in a month that doesn't have 31 days, a Tuesday when the janitor always has his or her day off, etc.... ;-)
My outline presently is:
Tuesday 21 May: fly out to Madrid. Couple of nights in Madrid. Visit the Asociasion office. Walk from the church of Santiago to at least Plaza de Castilla (further if there is a convenient metro stop en-route?). Day in San Lorenzo de el Escorial.
Thursday 23 May: Walk to Colmenar Viejo from Plaza de Castilla metro.
Friday 24 May: walk to Cercedilla.
Saturday 25 May: walk to La Granja de San Ildefonso*.
Sunday 26: walk to Segovia.
Monday 27 May: in Segovia.
Tuesday 28 May: walk to Santa Maria de Real de Nieva.
Wednesday 29 May: walk to Coca (Castillo seems to require booking 48 hours prior?).
Thursday 30 May: walk to Alcazeren.
Friday 31 May: walk into Valladolid and get bus to Tordesillas (overnight in Tordesillas). I've been to Valladolid relatively recently so I have no need to tarry there.
Saturday 01 June: walk GR14 along the Duero back to Puente Duero or Simancas**.
Sunday 02 June: walk to Penaflor de Hornija. As far as I can work out Womba church and ossuary should be open to visit.
Monday 03 June: walk to Medino del Rio. There appears to be an alternative route via Santa Espina. Anyone been? Worth doing?
Tuesday 04 June: walk to Villalon de Campos.
Wednesday 05 June: walk to Sahagun.
Thursday 06 June: fly home out of Santander. My flight is early in the day so I may need to get to Santander the previous evening and cut out a day somewhere (Segovia?). Any other ideas on how else to save a day?
* any recommendations as to where to stay in La Granja de San Idelfonso? I understand the albergue in Valsain to be closed.
** any recommendations as to where to stay in Simancas?
All thoughts/recommendations welcome.
Thanks.
I walked the Camino de Madrid last June.
Ray y Rosa's Guide (They also run a very nice acogida in Manzanares el Real and WhatsApped me the best information about which albergues were open. They were the ones that told me that the albergue in Santa Espina was open when even Gronze was reporting it as closed.)
No red carpets for me; a definite drawback unfortunately to not speaking the language. In fact, we only met two locals the whole time who spoke any English at all and they were at the reception desks at hotels we stayed at. Once back at Madrid for a few days of sightseeing before going home, there were a few more.I walked the Madrid last year, starting about 10 days later than you. Definitely a very good Camino that provided opportunities to meet and interact with many local people.
Pilgrims are still rare on the Madrid, I met six in total (including @David Tallan ), and so the locals really rolled out the red carpet for me.
My only planning resource was the gronze website and when I needed urgent advice on something not covered on the gronze I obtained it from this forum.
Buen camino and I am sure that you will enjoy yourself.
I used Ms Google to translate where rquired but people were friendly in general and I find that if both myself and the other person want to communicate then we will find a way.No red carpets for me; a definite drawback unfortunately to not speaking the language. In fact, we only met two locals the whole time who spoke any English at all and they were at the reception desks at hotels we stayed at. Once back at Madrid for a few days of sightseeing before going home, there were a few more.
Anyhow, it is my problem, not theirs.
Yes, I did use "Chroogle" a few times, but only when absolutely necessary to get the job done...no real chatting.I used Ms Google to translate where rquired but people were friendly in general and I find that if both myself and the other person want to communicate then we will find a way.
Hello
I am in the planning phase of the Camino de Madrid. Hoping to start walking in late May. The Confraternity of James' guidebook in out of print and no longer available, so I have been basing my research on the Virtual Camino de Madrid thread on this Forum (extremely helpful) and picking up bits and pieces from the internet - in Spanish, not my forte.
I like to walk with a rough idea of where I am going to be and when I am going to be there, if only so as not to arrive somewhere and find the visit is closed because its a Monday in a month that doesn't have 31 days, a Tuesday when the janitor always has his or her day off, etc.... ;-)
My outline presently is:
Tuesday 21 May: fly out to Madrid. Couple of nights in Madrid. Visit the Asociasion office. Walk from the church of Santiago to at least Plaza de Castilla (further if there is a convenient metro stop en-route?). Day in San Lorenzo de el Escorial.
Thursday 23 May: Walk to Colmenar Viejo from Plaza de Castilla metro.
Friday 24 May: walk to Cercedilla.
Saturday 25 May: walk to La Granja de San Ildefonso*.
Sunday 26: walk to Segovia.
Monday 27 May: in Segovia.
Tuesday 28 May: walk to Santa Maria de Real de Nieva.
Wednesday 29 May: walk to Coca (Castillo seems to require booking 48 hours prior?).
Thursday 30 May: walk to Alcazeren.
Friday 31 May: walk into Valladolid and get bus to Tordesillas (overnight in Tordesillas). I've been to Valladolid relatively recently so I have no need to tarry there.
Saturday 01 June: walk GR14 along the Duero back to Puente Duero or Simancas**.
Sunday 02 June: walk to Penaflor de Hornija. As far as I can work out Womba church and ossuary should be open to visit.
Monday 03 June: walk to Medino del Rio. There appears to be an alternative route via Santa Espina. Anyone been? Worth doing?
Tuesday 04 June: walk to Villalon de Campos.
Wednesday 05 June: walk to Sahagun.
Thursday 06 June: fly home out of Santander. My flight is early in the day so I may need to get to Santander the previous evening and cut out a day somewhere (Segovia?). Any other ideas on how else to save a day?
* any recommendations as to where to stay in La Granja de San Idelfonso? I understand the albergue in Valsain to be closed.
** any recommendations as to where to stay in Simancas?
All thoughts/recommendations welcome.
Thanks.
We absolutely loved the Camino Madrid. Very few pilgrims, but the variety of landscapes and towns and the villagers who embraced us made this unforgettable. A few things. Despite many attempts over the years when we were in Madrid, we never found the Amigos office open. Never.Hello
I am in the planning phase of the Camino de Madrid. Hoping to start walking in late May. The Confraternity of James' guidebook in out of print and no longer available, so I have been basing my research on the Virtual Camino de Madrid thread on this Forum (extremely helpful) and picking up bits and pieces from the internet - in Spanish, not my forte.
I like to walk with a rough idea of where I am going to be and when I am going to be there, if only so as not to arrive somewhere and find the visit is closed because its a Monday in a month that doesn't have 31 days, a Tuesday when the janitor always has his or her day off, etc.... ;-)
My outline presently is:
Tuesday 21 May: fly out to Madrid. Couple of nights in Madrid. Visit the Asociasion office. Walk from the church of Santiago to at least Plaza de Castilla (further if there is a convenient metro stop en-route?). Day in San Lorenzo de el Escorial.
Thursday 23 May: Walk to Colmenar Viejo from Plaza de Castilla metro.
Friday 24 May: walk to Cercedilla.
Saturday 25 May: walk to La Granja de San Ildefonso*.
Sunday 26: walk to Segovia.
Monday 27 May: in Segovia.
Tuesday 28 May: walk to Santa Maria de Real de Nieva.
Wednesday 29 May: walk to Coca (Castillo seems to require booking 48 hours prior?).
Thursday 30 May: walk to Alcazeren.
Friday 31 May: walk into Valladolid and get bus to Tordesillas (overnight in Tordesillas). I've been to Valladolid relatively recently so I have no need to tarry there.
Saturday 01 June: walk GR14 along the Duero back to Puente Duero or Simancas**.
Sunday 02 June: walk to Penaflor de Hornija. As far as I can work out Womba church and ossuary should be open to visit.
Monday 03 June: walk to Medino del Rio. There appears to be an alternative route via Santa Espina. Anyone been? Worth doing?
Tuesday 04 June: walk to Villalon de Campos.
Wednesday 05 June: walk to Sahagun.
Thursday 06 June: fly home out of Santander. My flight is early in the day so I may need to get to Santander the previous evening and cut out a day somewhere (Segovia?). Any other ideas on how else to save a day?
* any recommendations as to where to stay in La Granja de San Idelfonso? I understand the albergue in Valsain to be closed.
** any recommendations as to where to stay in Simancas?
All thoughts/recommendations welcome.
Thanks.
Segovia is indeed a jewel. Please do take this advice and spend extra time there. We also loved Valladolid. And there we had a camino angel which was more common on the Madrid than any other camino we have walked. We got up early and went to a bus stop. A guy driving a Mercedes convertible stopped and asked if we were peregrinos. We said yes. He asked where we were going. We said Simancas. He drove us there, it was a gorgeous morning and he was such a delight. And we saved lots of time. We came back with lots of tales like this which we still smile when we talk about that camino.It's a different but beautiful Camino, as has been said. I walked it in August 2019.
Your itinerary is pretty much identical to mine. If you need to cut some time, rethink the Valladolid/Tordesillas side trip, and make sure you stay in Segovia (you are going to want to be there longer anyway, one of the coolest cities I've been to).
In La Granja I stayed in the Oyo Hostal: inexpensive, clean, AC; right on one of the main streets (there is a Parador there too). In Simancas, there is a hotel across a small highway as you're leaving town on the Camino (there's the rare ATM heading the same way). Hotel Pago de Olivo; standard, modern hotel, really nice, great breakfast. The restaurant Los Infantes is excellent. It might be a good idea to stay in a nicer place when you can, most of the Madrid is pretty rural, but you will have a bed every night. In case no one has mentioned it, pay more attention to food and water, neither is as available as you would encounter on other routes. All of it adds up to a unique (if not challenging) charm of the Madrid. Have great time. Peace, Bob
I'm thinking about this Camino for next year. I need to do more research but to be honest I'm not keen on the climb up to Segovia. I might take the bus from Madrid. And do Segovia to SantiagoHello
I am in the planning phase of the Camino de Madrid. Hoping to start walking in late May. The Confraternity of James' guidebook in out of print and no longer available, so I have been basing my research on the Virtual Camino de Madrid thread on this Forum (extremely helpful) and picking up bits and pieces from the internet - in Spanish, not my forte.
I like to walk with a rough idea of where I am going to be and when I am going to be there, if only so as not to arrive somewhere and find the visit is closed because its a Monday in a month that doesn't have 31 days, a Tuesday when the janitor always has his or her day off, etc.... ;-)
My outline presently is:
Tuesday 21 May: fly out to Madrid. Couple of nights in Madrid. Visit the Asociasion office. Walk from the church of Santiago to at least Plaza de Castilla (further if there is a convenient metro stop en-route?). Day in San Lorenzo de el Escorial.
Thursday 23 May: Walk to Colmenar Viejo from Plaza de Castilla metro.
Friday 24 May: walk to Cercedilla.
Saturday 25 May: walk to La Granja de San Ildefonso*.
Sunday 26: walk to Segovia.
Monday 27 May: in Segovia.
Tuesday 28 May: walk to Santa Maria de Real de Nieva.
Wednesday 29 May: walk to Coca (Castillo seems to require booking 48 hours prior?).
Thursday 30 May: walk to Alcazeren.
Friday 31 May: walk into Valladolid and get bus to Tordesillas (overnight in Tordesillas). I've been to Valladolid relatively recently so I have no need to tarry there.
Saturday 01 June: walk GR14 along the Duero back to Puente Duero or Simancas**.
Sunday 02 June: walk to Penaflor de Hornija. As far as I can work out Womba church and ossuary should be open to visit.
Monday 03 June: walk to Medino del Rio. There appears to be an alternative route via Santa Espina. Anyone been? Worth doing?
Tuesday 04 June: walk to Villalon de Campos.
Wednesday 05 June: walk to Sahagun.
Thursday 06 June: fly home out of Santander. My flight is early in the day so I may need to get to Santander the previous evening and cut out a day somewhere (Segovia?). Any other ideas on how else to save a day?
* any recommendations as to where to stay in La Granja de San Idelfonso? I understand the albergue in Valsain to be closed.
** any recommendations as to where to stay in Simancas?
All thoughts/recommendations welcome.
Thanks.
In Simancas, we also stayed at Hotel Pago de Oliva. I loved my overnight in Valladolid, which is off trail, but took an easy bus in and out to save time. I agree that Segovia is worthy of two nights; the ancient intact aqueduct alone is worth it, but so many other interesting things to do. I especially liked the tower tour at the cathedral with outstanding views. In fact, I enjoyed the city so much, we are stopping there after Santiago for the day and night before taking the short train ride back to Madrid in time for our flight home.It's a different but beautiful Camino, as has been said.
That is exactly what I did. I'd broken my arm four months earlier and wanted an "easier" Camino and this route was perfect. The weather, minus just one day of cold and rain last October, was great.I'm thinking about this Camino for next year. I need to do more research but to be honest I'm not keen on the climb up to Segovia. I might take the bus from Madrid. And do Segovia to Santiago
Hello, just FYI, there's a Hostal in Cercedilla (El Aribel), it's on the Camino and the train station is next to it. The train cuts out the mountain and brings you to Segovia. Pretty humbling: takes about a half hour/ 40 minutes, and would be a long, hard day to walk. Hope you get to go.I'm thinking about this Camino for next year. I need to do more research but to be honest I'm not keen on the climb up to Segovia. I might take the bus from Madrid. And do Segovia to Santiago
My only planning resource was the gronze website and when I needed urgent advice on something not covered on the gronze I obtained it from this forum.
Your itinerary is pretty much identical to mine. If you need to cut some time, rethink the Valladolid/Tordesillas side trip, and make sure you stay in Segovia (you are going to want to be there longer anyway, one of the coolest cities I've been to).
In La Granja I stayed in the Oyo Hostal: inexpensive, clean, AC; right on one of the main streets (there is a Parador there too). In Simancas, there is a hotel across a small highway as you're leaving town on the Camino (there's the rare ATM heading the same way).
Hotel Pago de Olivo; standard, modern hotel, really nice, great breakfast. The restaurant Los Infantes is excellent.
Segovia is indeed a jewel. Please do take this advice and spend extra time there. We also loved Valladolid.
Today we are in La Granja in hostal La Chata. Via booking.com, price includes breakfast (between 9-10am).
We didn't take the camino route to La Granja, but got off earlier en walked through a beautiful forest en then alongside the river. I attached the route.
Camino Madrid 2022
Camino Madrid: A Beautiful but Lightly Used Pilgrimagecaminomadrid2022.blogspot.com
I walked the Camino Madrid in 2022. Started in Madrid and stopped in sahagun. You might find some useful info for your planning in my blog.
A mix is always good, but I've been on the meseta three times now on three different caminos and I've always found something to enjoy in the experienceGreat read, Larry, and some fine photos.
I've noted the absence of pit-stops along some of the stretches. I like to travel light so not overly keen on carrying water and food (I stop at all the fuentes and a lot of bars!).
Also interesting to read about the temperature variations.
'The journey without a destination seems to be fleeing. The destination without a journey seems to be just escaping.' Words to ponder as I walk.
Thanks
PS I'm one of those who love the great open spaces and the big horizons of the meseta! Give me the meseta over pine forests any day.
A mix is always good, but I've been on the meseta three times now on three different caminos and I've always found something to enjoy in the experience
Hi. I'm on the Madrid right now. Today we are in La Granja in hostal La Chata. Via booking.com, price includes breakfast (between 9-10am).
Tomorrow after breakfast we will visit the gardens. Then on to Segovia for 2 nights. We're not yet sure of the stages after that.
Until now, we are really enjoying this camino. The surroundings are great. The walk up Fuenfría went fine, it was not as hard as I expected. But somehow it took us quite some time to get here. We didn't take the camino route to La Granja, but got off earlier en walked through a beautiful forest en then alongside the river. I attached the route.
Yes! In the sacristy, and there is a special pilgrim blessing as well. On our most recent camino, even though we weren't walking from Madrid or to Madrid, we went back to the Iglesia de Santiago and asked for a stamp, the last we would get on that trip. The priest at first was puzzled, then smiled, delighted that his stamp was the last.Oh, and you can get the special pilgrim passport at the santiagochurch in Madrid.
The climb up to the top of the pass was challenging for us. The broken stones of the old Roman road was a twisted ankle waiting to happen. We went slowly. But the walk down from the top of the pass is breathtaking and unforgettable. You can Segovia from miles away and the meseta beyond it. The walk down was more than the worth the challenging walk up.I'm thinking about this Camino for next year. I need to do more research but to be honest I'm not keen on the climb up to Segovia. I might take the bus from Madrid. And do Segovia to Santiago
It is amazing and in.pristine condition. We climbed up to a higher elevation at the one end of it during the day, then took this picture as night fell. It's a priceless jewel for sure.The sight of the aquaduct was stunning. We lingered there awhile and came back in the evening when it is all lit up and a jewel.
when you walk down the pass, you arrive at the Fuente de la Reina (as said at the map) there you don't follow the arrows, but take the road to the right (a little backwards.)Sorry but couldn't figure out the route/map at all ;-(
when you walk down the pass, you arrive at the Fuente de la Reina (as said at the map) there you don't follow the arrows, but take the road to the right (a little backwards.)
But doing so you don't have the views at Segovia, so maybe make the turn to Valsain/ La Granja later on the route.
Valsain may not have food avail. However hospitalera was an angel.OK I get it now.
That's the route I was thinking of following.
Thanks for clarification.
A compensatory highlight (after a slightly trying morning) was lunch in the Argentian restaurant in Valsaín. Although it was full, and quite smart - it is not a bar, he fitted me in! Despite all that happened I would happily go again. An easy walk onward to La Granja - you can see it and follow your nose.
In terms of planning resources, I also found very useful:
The Camino de Madrid section on Gronze.com, including the "Al Loro" (To the parrot) tab which many don't notice. If Spanish is not your forte, Chrome will translate the site to English.
Gronze reminded me that I should re-read: For Whom The Bell Tolls (Valsain), El Licenciado Vidriera from Cervantes' Exemplary Novels (Coca) and Asterix En Hispanie (Coca).
As for Whom The Bell Tolls, I will re-read it as I walk. Interestingly the phrase 'Did the earth move for you?' apparently comes from the novel.
Gronze asserts that Cervantes and Shakespeare were in Valladolid at the same period (1605), although without meeting each other. Perhaps?
"Al Loro" (To the parrot)
It looks fine on my phone. I’ve screen grabbed. Is it any better for you? It’s a list of abierto - open and cerrado closed. It looks very useful, dated 27/4.The Asociasion de Amigos de los Caminos de Santiago de Madrid has just posted an update of the 'Situacion de los albergues en el Camino de Madrid' (28 April 2024), which will be of great interest to any walkers about to set off.
Most probably due to my own incompetence I cannot read the document - too small and, when I blow it up, too blurred. Anyone computer savvy have any ideas as to what to do to read it? The document may be out of focus?
I have emailed the Asociasion and am hoping for a reply.
The Asociasion de Amigos de los Caminos de Santiago de Madrid has just posted an update of the 'Situacion de los albergues en el Camino de Madrid' (28 April 2024), which will be of great interest to any walkers about to set off.
Most probably due to my own incompetence I cannot read the document - too small and, when I blow it up, too blurred. Anyone computer savvy have any ideas as to what to do to read it? The document may be out of focus?
I have emailed the Asociasion and am hoping for a reply.
It looks fine on my phone. I’ve screen grabbed. Is it any better for you? It’s a list of abierto - open and cerrado closed. It looks very useful, dated 27/4.
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Hello Bachibouzouk and Good Forum People,
Not your incompetence at all. They just messed up their own webpage.
Let me help you with this:
At your service!
Well I hope the file can be hosted here at least until they fix their webpage... in jpg and pdfHello OldHands - thanks but this link doesn't work for me ;-(
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