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I am still dithering about which Camino to walk next year. My friend wants to walk the Camino Madrid and I want to walk the Invierno. Watching pilgrims' videos, the Camino Madrid looks a bit uninteresting to my mind but I have walked the Primitivo twice and loved it. Am I judging the Camino Madrid unfairly?
That is still on my bucket list but I walked the Primitivo this year and last year and could walk it all over again. I am so sorry that I did not walk the San Salvador first.Hi @jennysa. I can't advise you accurately at this stage as I am planning both the Madrid and the Primitivo in May/June next year. I am going to connect them with the San Salvador from Leon. Have you walked that one?? Bye, Mel
I did the Salvador, then connected to the Norte at Avilés. Oviedo was a days walk at 29 kmYou can still walk the Salvador and hook back to walk 2nd section of the Norte. (Léon to Oviedo) then walk or bus the short way (2 stages ?) to join the Norte.
Hi @OzAnnie - I walked the Via Francigena from the Swiss border to Rome last year. An amazing experience awaits you....MelHi @jennysa
You can still walk the Salvador and hook back to walk 2nd section of the Norte. (Léon to Oviedo) then walk or bus the short way (2 stages ?) to join the Norte.
If you’re confused about the CDM. Do both camino de Madrid. (You could walk cf to Ponferrada or train connect Sahagún to Ponferrada ) then walk to SdC in Invierno. ( I did that in 2018).
I would definitely walk the cdm again. It had a lovely feel. Often they depend on your experiences and company (if any ). I luckily arranged to walk with 2 other forum ladies and we stayed together on the Madrid. Neither were planning to go in direction of Invierno but I enjoyed that solo.
It’s so hard to make the initial choice- but once you commit and buy your ticket everything falls into place.
I put a flight on hold today to head back to Madrid and complete my (Sanabrés section of Vdlp) plus do a short version of VF in Italy from Siena to Rome first. Not set until I pay tomorrow but a good start.
So many routes I have on the wish list.
Buen camino
Annie
Yes, the Buen Camino app.Also interested in the Camino Madrid in April. Does anyone know of an app for this route that has offline map and GPS overlay?
I used this app for other routes many times and loved it. The recent upgrades to the app are disappointing, the map feature has changed, seems like it moved away from google map (no terrain feature etc), info hard to read, and this route only available in Spanish. Better than nothing but not smooth to use. Sorry if I sound fussy but the previous version was excellent. Thanks for the response though.Yes, the Buen Camino app.
APP del Camino de Santiago Buen Camino 2014 - 2024
Aplicación del Camino de Santiago profesional, con mapas, perfiles, alojamientos, planificador de etapas, a pie o en bici (Btt), en idiomas y actualizada.www.editorialbuencamino.com
Ack! I just opened my app and it's all different!I used this app for other routes many times and loved it. The recent upgrades to the app are disappointing, the map feature has changed, seems like it moved away from google map (no terrain feature etc), info hard to read, and this route only available in Spanish. Better than nothing but not smooth to use. Sorry if I sound fussy but the previous version was excellent. Thanks for the response though.
Hi Heidi We are going to walk the Madrid Camino in April 2020 . Please could you tell me which Albergues you enjoyed and if there are any to avoid Thank youCamino de Madrid is beautiful, lots of walking on forest paths, you get to visit Segovia, and the locals are SO friendly. There are charming little albergues and interesting villages - where you will be met with friendly greetings by people who haven't become tired of hordes of pilgrims.
Without doubt, my favourite camino, especially at Easter.
(But I haven't walked the Invierno.)
When are you going Annie? I think you will love the Sanabrés. Look forward to hearing about it all especially the VF.Hi @jennysa
You can still walk the Salvador and hook back to walk 2nd section of the Norte. (Léon to Oviedo) then walk or bus the short way (2 stages ?) to join the Norte.
If you’re confused about the CDM. Do both camino de Madrid. (You could walk cf to Ponferrada or train connect Sahagún to Ponferrada ) then walk to SdC in Invierno. ( I did that in 2018).
I would definitely walk the cdm again. It had a lovely feel. Often they depend on your experiences and company (if any ). I luckily arranged to walk with 2 other forum ladies and we stayed together on the Madrid. Neither were planning to go in direction of Invierno but I enjoyed that solo.
It’s so hard to make the initial choice- but once you commit and buy your ticket everything falls into place.
I put a flight on hold today to head back to Madrid and complete my (Sanabrés section of Vdlp) plus do a short version of VF in Italy from Siena to Rome first. Not set until I pay tomorrow but a good start.
So many routes I have on the wish list.
Buen camino
Annie
Tks Elaine. I sent whatsapp as it’s not my threadWhen are you going Annie? I think you will love the Sanabrés. Look forward to hearing about it all especially the VF.
Good luck and Merry Christmas x
Elaine
I am still dithering about which Camino to walk next year. My friend wants to walk the Camino Madrid and I want to walk the Invierno. Watching pilgrims' videos, the Camino Madrid looks a bit uninteresting to my mind but I have walked the Primitivo twice and loved it. Am I judging the Camino Madrid unfairly?
I will dig up my credencial from our walks and see if I can remember anything - in general, everything after Segovia was lovely. Old posts here are a reminder...Hi Heidi We are going to walk the Madrid Camino in April 2020 . Please could you tell me which Albergues you enjoyed and if there are any to avoid Thank you
Windy Maps for Android.Also interested in the Camino Madrid in April. Does anyone know of an app for this route that has offline map and GPS overlay?
thank youI will dig up my credencial from our walks and see if I can remember anything - in general, everything after Segovia was lovely. Old posts here are a reminder...
Every camino is unique, and we tend to characterize each by what we remember most. Without doubt, the most beautiful is the Primitivo. No contest, I can understand why you've done it twice. We walked the Salvador just before the Primitivo, which was nice combo. We did the Madrid in Sept-Oct this year and loved it. We refer it is as the most villager-oriented. If you want scenery, don't bother. If you want tough walking, don't bother. If you want mountains, you only get a few days. If you want delightful villages and interaction with the villagers, it's got the other 7 caminos we have walked beat by a long shot. We combined this with the Camino Ignaciano, walking from Loiola (Loyola) to Logrono. That's tougher than the Primitivo with stunning scenery, but still not as good as the Primitivo. What's more, there was only one albergue, and staying in inns, while much more comfortable, is not our thing. This was another reason we liked the Madrid as there were plenty of albergues.I am still dithering about which Camino to walk next year. My friend wants to walk the Camino Madrid and I want to walk the Invierno. Watching pilgrims' videos, the Camino Madrid looks a bit uninteresting to my mind but I have walked the Primitivo twice and loved it. Am I judging the Camino Madrid unfairly?
I find this very tempting!If you want delightful villages and interaction with the villagers, it's got the other 7 caminos we have walked beat by a long shot.
If you want to know what walking in spring is like, I walked it in early May this year and made a YouTube video of my walk. Search for "Camino Madrid May 2019". Sorry - it's 26 minutes long but should give you a good idea of what to expect along the way. I loved it!Thank you so much for all the information and for the trouble you took over it. I can now understand why so many pilgrims like the Camino Madrid and you have convinced me.
Love your film. Brings back memories. Bin there three times.If you want to know what walking in spring is like, I walked it in early May this year and made a YouTube video of my walk. Search for "Camino Madrid May 2019". Sorry - it's 26 minutes long but should give you a good idea of what to expect along the way. I loved it!
Thank you so much for all the information and for the trouble you took over it. I can now understand why so many pilgrims like the Camino Madrid and you have convinced me.
Thanks for that video! I was unable to watch it all at once, so I saved the link, which may make it easier for others to find.If you want to know what walking in spring is like, I walked it in early May this year and made a YouTube video of my walk. Search for "Camino Madrid May 2019". Sorry - it's 26 minutes long but should give you a good idea of what to expect along the way. I loved it!
I walked the Camino de Madrid to the Frances to the Invierno this fall, completing the route(s) about five weeks ago. I found both the Madrid and the Invierno challenging physically, due to the weather: very dry with the air full of dust on most of the Madrid, and very wet, with almost continual rain on the Invierno. I would repeat both, but with the hope of better weather. Maybe the spring will work for you. If you are on holiday, you will have to take your chances. If you are on pilgrimage, you will receive what you are given and open your heart to the learning that you receive along the way. I found both routes quite solitary (which suits me), but the Invierno more so, because many albergues are available along the route of the Madrid.Thanks for that video! I was unable to watch it all at once, so I saved the link, which may make it easier for others to find.
Those fields of emerald green waving in the wind with occasional smatterings of poppies are among my strongest memories of that walk. And as others have said, the people in the villages are a big plus. I walked alone but had lots of great conversations with people, for whom the presence of a peregrina was more of a novelty than an irritation.
Alvin, you say you walked in early May. How early? I see from my blog that I started on May 17 from the Plaza Castilla. I’m asking because I think there is a “green window” that closes in late spring or early summer, and then everything turns brown. For me, this walk would not have been as much of a show-stopper if the natural habitat had been all brown.
One thing that tells me we walked at slightly different times, assuming these things happen pretty regularly on the same dates, was the lack of cottonwood “snow” along the canal at Medina. When I walked, it was everywhere, in some spots pretty thick. Your video doesn’t show any, so maybe I walked a bit later than you.
And, for others who are wondering about the exit from Madrid, this video shows it like it is. No selective winnowing to omit ugly industrial parts.
I’m asking because I think there is a “green window” that closes in late spring or early summer, and then everything turns brown. For me, this walk would not have been as much of a show-stopper if the natural habitat had been all brown
LaurieThanks for that video! I was unable to watch it all at once, so I saved the link, which may make it easier for others to find.
Those fields of emerald green waving in the wind with occasional smatterings of poppies are among my strongest memories of that walk. And as others have said, the people in the villages are a big plus. I walked alone but had lots of great conversations with people, for whom the presence of a peregrina was more of a novelty than an irritation.
Alvin, you say you walked in early May. How early? I see from my blog that I started on May 17 from the Plaza Castilla. I’m asking because I think there is a “green window” that closes in late spring or early summer, and then everything turns brown. For me, this walk would not have been as much of a show-stopper if the natural habitat had been all brown.
One thing that tells me we walked at slightly different times, assuming these things happen pretty regularly on the same dates, was the lack of cottonwood “snow” along the canal at Medina. When I walked, it was everywhere, in some spots pretty thick. Your video doesn’t show any, so maybe I walked a bit later than you.
And, for others who are wondering about the exit from Madrid, this video shows it like it is. No selective winnowing to omit ugly industrial parts.
Edited to add a link to my Camino Madrid photos. I am like a kid in a candy shop, I have just discovered that all my photos from 2007 to whenever Google shut its picasa website are actually stored online. I haven’t seen any of them in years, and it’s an early Christmas present. The Madrid shots are here.
Annie, by that “wee bar” do you mean the one right after the pictures of the albergue in Castromonte? If so, those are pictures of Sr. Braulio and his wife in Bar Caribe. He has a great story, which you may have read. https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...e-bar-owner-now-almost-100.42686/#post-437191Laurie
Loved scrolling through your link to archived Camino pics. So many scenes I related to and I see you stopped in a couple of the albergues I enjoyed. In particular ‘Castromonte ‘.
Though it may have been a lonely stop if travelling alone. I had two other ladies to walk up to that wee bar you’ve also pictured. Great selection of pics. Thanks.
Annie
We will never forget that bar. We were starving, it was around 10am and the town seemed dead. We queried an old woman who must have been at least 100 years old and she told us that there was a bar open. She would take us there since she went every morning to buy fresh bread there. It was a slow walk, which was fine with us. We entered the bar, saw the bar keep and the old lady embrace each other, as they no doubt had done every morning for years. The old woman bundled her loaf of bread like a new born, gave us a wide smile and wished us a buen camino. We had a nice breakfast and asked if we could have some bocadillos a llevarse. Ten minutes later, lovingly made and wrapped bocadillos made on the wonderful bread were handed to us. We were refreshed and ready to walk another 5 hours. Castromonte, like so many stops along the Camino de Madrid, will always be in our thoughts. As I have noted previously, the Camino de Madrid is all about the villagers. Take time to talk to them and ask them to help you. They take great pride in their hospitality.Thats the bar on the right side just before the church. Sold bred too and lottery bills. No barsign outside made me dinner at night.
Yes - the hospi who came to open the wonderful Albergue told us how to find it. I think the only sign was lotteries.Thats the bar on the right side -No barsign outside
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Annie, by that “wee bar” do you mean the one right after the pictures of the albergue in Castromonte? If so, those are pictures of Sr. Braulio and his wife in Bar Caribe. He has a great story, which you may have read.””
Laurie
I had thought there was only one ‘wee’ bar in Castromonte... I’ve checked my pics for my bar pic and it’s different. Similar tables but different floor etc. & not the same. ? My pic shows Castromonte is where pic was taken tho
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We were told by those who walked the Camino de Madrid that we absolutely, positively MUST stop in Villeguillo. Best bar on any camino, and a nicely maintained albergue. They were right. We feasted at the bar, the only one in town, and came back to lounge and take advantage of the wifi. At one point, the proprietor, Kiki (not sure about spelling) and the mayor joined us. We took lots of photos and sent them back to be posted. Don't miss the mayor, as he looks like he walked straight our of a Velasquez portrait. Too many memories to catalog from this camino.Bar Real in Alcasaren is also a bar to remember. Made me a 3 course dinner with Wine. Lovely people. Also had the key to the albergue.
I walked the Madrid a few years ago, and reacted to your post by thinking — I don’t remember any place named Vileguillo. Just shows you how many terrific options there are on this camino. I think it must be the camino with the best and most albergues per peregrino in Spain.We were told by those who walked the Camino de Madrid that we absolutely, positively MUST stop in Villeguillo. Best bar on any camino, and a nicely maintained albergue. They were right. We feasted at the bar, the only one in town, and came back to lounge and take advantage of the wifi. At one point, the proprietor, Kiki (not sure about spelling) and the mayor joined us. We took lots of photos and sent them back to be posted. Don't miss the mayor, as he looks like he walked straight our of a Velasquez portrait. Too many memories to catalog from this camino.
The bar where Sr. Braulio sold his many thousand tons of shrimp was Bar Caribe, in the plaza by the church. This is a different place. I assume that means that the Caribe has closed. Very sad. It is good to see that the town still has a bar, though! Towns in Spain without a bar are not long for this world.
Villeguillo is a pass through teeny village, 18km before Alcazaren. We modified our walking just to stop there. We loved it, and we did stop at the Cafe Real in Alcazaren. But then we continued on to Valdesillas. So many choices of delightful villages and unforgettable bars on this camino. I guess we have to go back...I walked the Madrid a few years ago, and reacted to your post by thinking — I don’t remember any place named Vileguillo. Just shows you how many terrific options there are on this camino. I think it must be the camino with the best and most albergues per peregrino in Spain.
Yep. That's Kiki with the thumbs up signal. We checked in at the albergue (he has the only key) and then came back begging for food. His first reaction was that dinner would be at 8pm. We put on our miserable face and the said 7pm. We switched to our mournful look and he said 6pm...just for us. We then went to our nuclear option and my wife put on her starving dog in the desert look. He sighed, cursing under his breath, then said he would serve us. But no choices. Whatever he had easy to make. The food kept coming and coming and coming. We were well past satisfecho when he proudly brought us ice cream for dessert. We simply had to eat it, waddling back to the albergue. That's one reason we walked 36kms the next day with only snacks along the way.My Villeguillo memories (from my live thread):
Because the stores were closed yesterday, we were out of supplies and were a bit worried that we would go hungry on the trail today because there’s an 18km stretch with no towns, but the bar in Villeguillo came to the rescue. It serves a genuinely excellent and fresh tostadas con tomate (after we had a poor one in Nava yesterday where the tomato part was just passata from a jar). And the owner just kept bringing us stuff as part of his desayuno del peregrino. We had to turn some things down because they contained dairy but we ate and drank plenty for €5 each and it carried us through to Alcazarén. Plus you can get a stamp. The bar owner and other patrons wanted us to take a photo of them, so here they are!
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Attached is a photo of the mayor. It's obvious he enjoys his visits to this bar. The second photo is of the outside of the bar. It's hard to miss this very special spot on this camino.My Villeguillo memories (from my live thread):
Because the stores were closed yesterday, we were out of supplies and were a bit worried that we would go hungry on the trail today because there’s an 18km stretch with no towns, but the bar in Villeguillo came to the rescue. It serves a genuinely excellent and fresh tostadas con tomate (after we had a poor one in Nava yesterday where the tomato part was just passata from a jar). And the owner just kept bringing us stuff as part of his desayuno del peregrino. We had to turn some things down because they contained dairy but we ate and drank plenty for €5 each and it carried us through to Alcazarén. Plus you can get a stamp. The bar owner and other patrons wanted us to take a photo of them, so here they are!
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Those mobile shops are wonderful. I was lucky to have one arrive in Castromonte, where I had landed without much in the way of food.Sadly, it was not open (nor even a bar) when we were there (Thursday 29 March 2018 at about 11am), and we had to make use of the mobile shop instead:
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I’ve watched your YouTube video as well. It gave me the idea of walking this route.Love your film. Brings back memories. Bin there three times.
.. what we talk about more than anything else are the villages and villagers who welcome you in the wonderful camino fashion of days of old before the Frances became a conga line of walkers. We have so many stories of how the villagers embraced us, housed us, fed us, showed with pride their community and devotion to developing a real camino. (Note: Some argue this camino is a made up one. To be honest, we didn't care. What mattered to us was getting what was a true camino experience up close and personal with villagers.)
Buen Camino
Instead of starting in Madrid, you start in Guadalajara and connect with the Camino de Madrid in Manzanares el Real — 3 days or 4 depending on your distance preferences.Camino Mendocino? I realize that is not part of this thread, so I will look for it and what you wrote. I am not familiar with that camino.
I am still dithering about which Camino to walk next year. My friend wants to walk the Camino Madrid and I want to walk the Invierno. Watching pilgrims' videos, the Camino Madrid looks a bit uninteresting to my mind but I have walked the Primitivo twice and loved it. Am I judging the Camino Madrid unfairly?
I saw your YouTube video before I went and that encouraged me to try that route. Now I’m planning the Madrid camino again in spring 2022.Love your film. Brings back memories. Bin there three times.
Still the Best camino. Planning to walk it with my son next summer.I saw your YouTube video before I went and that encouraged me to try that route. Now I’m planning the Madrid camino again in spring 2022.
A good choice.Madrid and Invierno next September
Welcome home, laineylainey! I’m sure you’ll see that @C clearly has just started a planning thread for the Camino de Madrid. I know some don’t like to plan ahead, but if you do, this thread will give you all the information you need and a lot that you don’t as well!Madrid and Invierno next September. Have used my Ryanair voucher to book the flight to Madrid as it expires next month!
Now I have a delicious 11months to think and plan.
Did the wonderful but short Wicklow Way here in Ireland this year and planning the Dingle Way next Easter. I had a wonderful time and it reminded me how much of my own country I don't know!
Thanks @peregrina2000 , most excellent and useful link! I have so enjoyed peoples' actual journeys and it will be great to see what, if anything, has changed.Welcome home, laineylainey! I’m sure you’ll see that @C clearly has just started a planning thread for the Camino de Madrid. I know some don’t like to plan ahead, but if you do, this thread will give you all the information you need and a lot that you don’t as well!
This is great to read as I'm heading to a camino next April. I had planned on the Le Puy route, but am getting info that early April isn't the best time for this route, especially going solo. Sooo,,, now looking at other options, like the CdM. I will be starting right before Holy Week starts and really would love to be somewhere where they still have some old Easter traditions. How did you find it with securing accommodation around that time?Camino de Madrid is beautiful, lots of walking on forest paths, you get to visit Segovia, and the locals are SO friendly. There are charming little albergues and interesting villages - where you will be met with friendly greetings by people who haven't become tired of hordes of pilgrims.
Without doubt, my favourite camino, especially at Easter.
(But I haven't walked the Invierno.)
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