SYates
Camino Fossil AD 1999, now living in Santiago de C
- Time of past OR future Camino
- First: Camino Francés 1999
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Last: Santiago - Muxia 2019
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I wonder if those who respond to posts about the Camino Fances no longer being what it was will also write that David should dig deep, not judge, let other walks their way. If David's had enough it says a lot to me. As Michael B says, this may be a cycle and the Frances will retun to a more glorious past, but let's hope it does so before all those who,gave the Camino its sense of community and pilgrimage rather than yet another holiday will not all bail out first.
How sad that future pilgrims will not meet this true camino angel. Is there some way to send David messages of thanks and gratitude and wish him well on his journey of life? The link seems to indicate he has become discouraged and disillusioned. He should be told that his mission of kindness has been much appreciated.
Luckily for us, "leaving it" only means that you have to turn your attention to the multitude of incredible Caminos in Spain just begging to be walked.
@Albertagirl, something moves me to say this, and I say it in all sincerity. Firstly, I'm sorry that you had this less than ideal interaction with David. But I can't help but think of the wonderful opportunity you have had to see someone - someone whom so many of us think very kindly of, and admire - possibly not at his best, and to have the opportunity now to 'forgive him his trespasses,' if indeed there is anything to forgive. Would that all of us could be forgiven our transgressions (trespasses).David completely ignored me when I went through there last fall. I think that my offer to leave a donation for food items that he had on offer offended his sense of our roles. But it was raining and chilly and he had a tent and a stove set up, so I was grateful for the chance to get warm and dry.
Let's hope not the one past when it was meant for Camino Frances' "pilgrims" to slice Moors around...the Frances will return to a more glorious past
And which will be the next route to be seized upon? I can see the tour company adverts now - "Walk (bits of) the 'Way less travelled', encounter gob-smacked locals, tearful pilgrims and hoteliers who haven't seen a coach in years...."
Nah; shut up you grumpy Tinker. Offer up your thanks for David's kindnesses, wish him well for his new paths. Smile, because @peregrina2000 is right. And, get the maps out - there are many roads to Santiago and even more to Grace.
We seem to get some pretty good posts on here from members who have just completed their first Camino .. they seem to have had the same experiences that we had some years ago ... surely the Camino is still the Camino?
Even nostalgia isn't what it used to be you know
I don't know...I think I recall reading a couple of years ago that the farm was owned by an acquaintance and David had raised about half of the 30,000 needed to buy it...but my memory is bad and my Spanish worseOk, I know I started this thread, but I don't know the answer: Does anybody know what happens to that place now? Buen Camino de la Vida, SY
That's a very good point, and food for thought for us returnees. Maybe we are the ones "taking advantage" of the camino!And, just a thought, when did the Camino as pilgrimage become a returning thing? Wasn't it once that one did it just once?
... And, just a thought, when did the Camino as pilgrimage become a returning thing? Wasn't it once that one did it just once?...
is it us being nostalgic for an ever rosier past or has the Camino really become less than it was? ...
surely the Camino is still the Camino ...
when did the Camino as pilgrimage become a returning thing? Wasn't it once that one did it just once?
That's a very good point, and food for thought for us returnees. Maybe we are the ones "taking advantage" of the camino!
When I met David in 2011 I truely thought that I had met an angel. I was so overcome by his hug as I left him that I was unable to speak. Years after I still thought of him and wondered if he really existed. It's only through posts like this have I learned that indeed David existed, not only in my imagination. But David is a true Angel . David, and Suzy who I never met, may you also meet your angels.Seems David and Suzy are leaving the Casa de los Dioses, see http://www.radiocaminodesantiago.co...uros-del-camino-de-santiago-va-a-desaparecer/
Summary:
After 7 years of service to pilgrims David says Good Bye to the Casa de los Dioses 2km before San Justo de la Vega. He is tired living in the 'theatre piece of hypocrisy' that the Camino has become.
Sad news indeed, but Thanks for all you have done for us pilgrims, David, and Buen Camino de la Vida, SY
The Camino has attracted such a broad range of people. It is easy to understand how the Camino today is not a spiritual or religious experience, but something else entirely, for many. The Camino welcomes all who are interested in walking along her many paths. Though there are some who do not follow in the pilgrim's path, I still think that the backbone and its permanent structure is both spiritual and religious. Certainly there will be times when the secular objectives (for lack of a better term), overwhelm the individual pilgrim and obviously those who serve pilgrims.
It is unfortunate when this type of thing happens, but I expect we will see more of it as the Camino grows and continues to attract those who walk for neither spiritual or religious purposes. However, the cycle will pass and the Camino will return to a less traveled pilgrimage.
For me I continue to welcome all that come while holding to my personal objectives and memories of a Camino that has been walked for over a thousands years. I will walk among those millions of pilgrims who have walked before me always.
And which will be the next route to be seized upon? I can see the tour company adverts now - "Walk (bits of) the 'Way less travelled', encounter gob-smacked locals, tearful pilgrims and hoteliers who haven't seen a coach in years...."
Nah; shut up you grumpy Tinker. Offer up your thanks for David's kindnesses, wish him well for his new paths. Smile, because @peregrina2000 is right. And, get the maps out - there are many roads to Santiago and even more to Grace.
Seems David and Suzy are leaving the Casa de los Dioses, see http://www.radiocaminodesantiago.co...uros-del-camino-de-santiago-va-a-desaparecer/
Summary:
After 7 years of service to pilgrims David says Good Bye to the Casa de los Dioses 2km before San Justo de la Vega. He is tired living in the 'theatre piece of hypocrisy' that the Camino has become.
Sad news indeed, but Thanks for all you have done for us pilgrims, David, and Buen Camino de la Vida, SY
Hi again everyone!
Camino de Santiago Radio interviewed David on his decision to leave la Casa. A very interesting video... in Spanish!
I decided to translate it in English the best way I could and posted it on my blog.
A fresh look on David's choice...
Hi Anemone del Camino -Is it me or does it feel odd discussing someone's intimate life on a public forum? Granted David has videotaped a very personal messagage himself, so some will argue that he himself is putting his life out in the open, but I do not feel comfortable with this at all.
Hello Jennie,Hi Anemone del Camino -
I'm sorry that my post has made you feel uncomfortable. I didn't see that the sharing of the news about David's and Suzy's breakup was the sharing of something intimate. My intention with the post was to inform Forum members of the news, knowing that everyone would want to wish them both well.
Hi Anenome -Hello Jennie,
Since neither David of Suzy are forum members I don't know how a forum of thousands of members, many who have never walked a Camino let alone passed by Casa de Dios or met David and or Suzie can be an appropriate vehicle to wish them well.
I can't imagine anyone wanting to have third parties, strangers, be made aware of a breakup that is none of their concern nor affects them in any way. Would you like strangers recognising you on the street say how sorry they are you have split from someone?
David has mentioned being fed up with Camino hypocresy. I wonder if strangers discussing his intimate life would not fall into that. I'm sure those who matter to David have been informed and have had a chance to say what they have to say to him.
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