- Time of past OR future Camino
- Oct/Nov 2022_Mozarabe from Almeria
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Hi IscaHi OzAnnie
14 Days could take you from Alicante to Cuenca, I walked a portion of that stretch and it is quite easy walking up to Casas Ibanez where I jumped off.You probably will be alone. Alcala del Jucar is definitely worth visiting, the vista when you first see it is one of those moments when you stop for a few minutes and just try to take in everything that is presented to you. I did not make it as far as Cuenca but it is a UNESCO listed city.
Buen Camino.
Sounds encouraging-
I’ve been drilling into so many scenarios here ..
a bit brain drained.
Although Almería start to Granada (Ideas from Laurie) is great too... I’ve checked trains and it’s also many more hours. Good thing with it; is the amigos are super helpful there.
I think maybe when I’ve got more planning time.
Toledo for tonight maybe my ‘go’ .. I checked trains south from Toledo and it would have to come back into Madrid I think. So deciding to go to Toledo will mean heading towards Ávila, if weather is ok.
I don’t have any profile maps on that area though.
Would anyone know places to enquire in Toledo?
Annie
You’re a champion Laurie.Annie, I sent you a PM but for others who may be interested in walking on the Levante, go to the association webpage, http://vieiragrino.com/
Click on Camino de Levante, and you will see they have a page for each of 42 stages. Leaving Toledo is stage 17. There is a LOT of good info here, elevation gains map, accommodation, pictures, so even if your Spanish isn't great, you can get a lot of good information here.
Buen camino, amiga.
I did a portion of the Sanabres in Sep-Oct 2016 with my BIL and SIL, and it was wonderful! Lot's of country walking, not too much highway. We started in Ourense, which we loved, even spent a part of a day in the hot springs. We mostly stayed in a mix of albergues, hostels and casas rurales, some special ones. One albergue was especially meaningful, in Leira, run by Andrea (I think) and Cristina, both of whom have done significant walking themselves. One of the things he said that made an impact: "It takes 3 weeks of walking alone before you lose your sense of time..." Took it to heart and made up my mind to return, alone. And I did, in 2017. He was right. The whole walk might be a tad short - we did it in 8 or 9 days, not killing ourselves.Hi
I can’t put this question in a particular section as I’m looking for ideas.
My plan until a few days ago was to be in Italy today until March 19. I was going to arrive in Madrid ‘after that’ to complete my Vdlp - from Tábara to SdC. - I now aim to get to Tábara about 16th March. - Flying home from Madrid on April 8 and have booking in SdC for 4&5 April and Madrid 6&7.
Due to so much going on ‘current virus info’ - I opted to fly into Spain now - so I’m right now contemplating (after the long haul ) to take a train somewhere and do a part of one of the southern routes. A start or maybe a section of say 10-14 days. I could sight see next couple of days
@peregrina2000 has given me some good ideas and thought it would be a good idea to throw it out there.
Possibly start of Mozárabe from either Alicante or Malaga.
Thought also to start on Levante from Toledo to Ávila but Laurie thought this might be too chilly right now in mountains ??
I sort of need to start easy too to get my legs strong so I don’t need heavy duty walking in first couple of days.
Any ideas out there ??
Annie
Tks JoselitoI did a portion of the Sanabres in Sep-Oct 2016 with my BIL and SIL, and it was wonderful! Lot's of country walking, not too much highway. We started in Ourense,
We haven’t had a good discussion about the infamous cottonwood forest lately,Tks Joselito
The Sanabrés was already on my plan (from later in March ). I’m returning to Tábara to complete the Vdlp I started last April and stopped at Tábara.
I’m currently ‘filling in a period ‘ I had plans for to walk in Italy on a section of the Via Francigena.
I am in Toledo today. I had a day visit here 3 years ago. It was a very quick train hop yesterday 33 minutes from Madrid . Staying 3 nights here and looks like with info gleaned from the Levante subforum I will walk from Toledo to Zamora before jumping across to Tábara.
Toledo has to be one of the most beautiful cities in all spain .. it is even better on this 2nd visit.
The tour groups walking the street here are out in full force - every appears ‘ as usual’ in spain so far.
Annie
We haven’t had a good discussion about the infamous cottonwood forest lately,on the day from Toro into Zamora. There is a spot where I got totally lost with my two French friends, we were wandering around in a cottonwood forest way off the camino. It was only because a local farmer on a tractor came driving through that we found our way out (ok, that is an exaggeration), but here is my description of the problem:
Yes, on the way into Zamora, we did get lost after coffee at a nice bar near the albergue in Villalazan. The turn-off was at a factory on the right, and we went along a canal for a short way, and then got totally lost in the cottonwood forest. I think we´d still be there if it hadn't been for the fact that magically, on a Saturday afternoon, a farmer in a tractor drove through the forest and pointed us in the right direction. We never did make it into Villaralbo, but made it into Zamora once we were outside the forest with no problem. Thanks, again, LT.
But I think that the problem has been solved! Keep your eyes out for that little concrete building Nalod describes below when you get there, which of course will be weeks from now!
From @nalod --
I had no problem from Toro to Zamora. Turned right at the quarry followed the arrows all the way. There is one blind arrow on a little concrete building, you will only see it if you turn left and go away from the river. I arrived in Zamora at the bridge from the opposite end to the Via de la Plata route.
Hope you get good advice on the weather for the days before Ávila. Just looking at the weather forecast, looks like not much snow predicted in the mountains (I checked Cebreros and San Bartalomé de los Pinares). My document of stages reminded me that if the weather is nice and you can do the mountain route, stopping in Cebreros would be a nice way to break up the stage that I describe as "San Martín de Valdeiglesias-San Bartalomé de los Pinares (33km with about 2000' elevation gain)." Cebreros is about halfway and had a couple of nice looking places to stay. If I hadn't been with my French amigos, I think I would have stopped here. But weather will also be a factor, I am sure.
Buen camino, Annie, I think you are in for a wonderful adventure!
HiYour plan is to complete the VdlP ... signifying you did the earlier part already? Have you considered re-walking the part starting 10 days or so before your restart point?
Thanks for reminding me about the Via Teresiana. Teresa was the name I chose for myself for Confirmation 60+ years ago.Enjoy beautiful Toledo, Annie, and buen camino after that!
And a question from a place of profound ignorance: does that take you through Avila? If so, you have choice, because there is also the Via Teresiana from there to (roughly) Salamanca. I've had my eye on that for ages as I'm a big fan of St Teresa.
Off you go, Annie! I say this, sitting snug and warm as the daylight dawns, one hour in time behind where you are. Like many others, i am watching you and wishing you buen camino.I am rather nervous about pushing off tomorrow to be honest. Forecast showing rain etc and a long stage to start ..
I haven’t found any pilgrim association to chat with but have the info and directions from files on the Levante sub-forum.
I may need to stop at Rielves as I’m not sure I’d get as far as Torrijos.
Annie
I’m stocked at home Jill (better keep that quiet as there may be a ‘break-in’ ) .@OzAnnie I looked at the Levante and see that the first two weeks out of Valencia are almost dead flat. If the weather is not looking too good - you could hop on the train and head further south! Love from Oz, where there is no toilet paper, rice, or flour left in the supermarkets!
Glad it’s not just me. When you’ve walked a number of caminos people think you’re strong.Annie, I remember well that "first day walking jitters", when walking alone. But the first yellow arrow will be you first Camino friend.
Great thought. Be prepared ! Thanks Jill.Go, Annie, Go! But take a photo of a taxi number or two (often seen on the wall in bars) in case that first day is just a bit too long . . . .
You understand me well. ( here’s me thinking my Spanish is pretty good too !!Annie, I THINK I remember that you have limited Spanish, so here is a translation of the directions on the Amigos page for leaving town.
Leave Toledo by the Puerta de Bisagra and Avenue Carlos III. Go left and take the Paseo Circo Romano, then right on the Avenida Mas del Ribero. In the roundabout stay on this road until you get to the gas station. Go down on the sidewalk next tot he gas station to the roundabout. Cross at the pedestrian cross walk and in a few meters you will see the first sign of GR-239. There is a path to the right that goes to the Talordo restaurant, you go in front of it and stay on the side of the river that will take you along the river for a pretty long time.
BE CAREFUL — there is a variant Camino del Sureste through Noves, a bicycle path.
You stay straight, parallel to the river. At the end of the path, go to the left, andyou come out on a little highway that has a lot of traffic with a lot of roundabouts due to all the residential subdivisions. 1.8 km on this camino goes away from the river to get on a gravel quarry. At this poitn, an ascent begins, continue on this path. On the left you will see Matanzas Hill, 547 meters high. We continue straigh in a westerly directio leaving to the right the Casa de Monterrey and further on we also leave on our right the Casas de Estivel.
You are oh so right about the anxiety, it is always the pre-camino jitters that keep you up at night, but then when you start to walk, you inevitably ask yourself what that was all about!
Stay in touch, amiga, buen camino, Laurie
if anyone has the straight kml file that they could email me for stage 17 to say 20 it would be a good start.
You’re a champion Laurie.
I’ve decided after receiving an encouraging voice ‘whatsapp’ from @gracethepilgrim
that I might let my body ‘catch up’ first - and so will stay 3 nights here in Toledo.
That link looks good. Gives what I like in respect for each stage ‘ ie the profiles ‘
I think that’s the way I’ll go
Xx
Just saw this second message Josefus.Sorry, I now realised that these tracks have been zipped.
I unzipped them now and posted the unzipped ones here: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgtQ3n0tSM_qgs9vhXOYr-0vKRSZ3A?e=5sIVKg
both in .kml and .gpx. You may download it there.
¡Ultreia!
Annie helped again and she doesn't need me but I had just tested out a work-around. That depended on well one can work with the file manager you have on your phone. Rename a file with a name like stage17.kml.zip to stage17.kmz and open maps.me with that (it can handle kmz and kml files).Sorry, I now realised that these tracks have been zipped.
I unzipped them now and posted the unzipped ones here: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgtQ3n0tSM_qgs9vhXOYr-0vKRSZ3A?e=5sIVKg
both in .kml and .gpx. You may download it there.
¡Ultreia!
Sorted. !!!!
I hadn’t noticed @Josefus posted a second message where he unzipped the files.
It was slow work for a dufus like me but it looks like I’ve got kml files for stages 17-21 now on maps.me
When I first opened your link ., the top ones showing were all gpx files so I tried putting those onto wikiloc .. seemed to work but I don’t understand wikiloc.
Scrolling down I saw the kml ones !!!! Yay!!
So one at a time - They’re on.
I owe you one Josefus.
Many thanks to all. and again thanks to Laurie.
You take care of all of us.
Annie
Thanks Rick, I appreciate this.Annie helped again and she doesn't need me but I had just tested out a work-around. That depended on well one can work with the file manager you have on your phone. Rename a file with a name like stage17.kml.zip to stage17.kmz and open maps.me with that (it can handle kmz and kml files).
I think now that I’ve got the tracks loaded onSigns took me past a repair shop and I found the beginnings of a path. I’ll attach pics.
If I’m on the wrong track I’ll go into that restaurant but arrows didn’t take me to it ?
Pics have loaded in order of 3, 2, 4, 1.
(4) being where I thought the walk started by the river. Is this the bike path?
#3 shows the corner where the arrow points to the pneumatics shop.
Google Maps for a new town are really great.Something I did was when approaching a town was to also open Google Maps. It knows more about stores, hotels, museums and sights than maps.me. This way you may see say, a grocery, near to the camino that you might miss with maps.me alone.
no need to translate, just go to the English versionFrom now the web www.vieiragrino.com of AACS-CV is Spanish and English.
Direct access at www.vieiragrino.com/en
P.S. this includes updated description of the Camino de Levante and the tracks for downloading.
WOW, there is an English version!!!! I hadn't seen it, obviously I am not very proficient with my internet skills.no need to translate, just go to the English version
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