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Your ‘aving a giraffe right? I would not, at present, get on a bus, train or rapid transit, let alone get on a ‘plane and breathe that lovely recycled air. I would not choose to stand in a confined line of total strangers for however many hours it takes to get through Border Control ( Heathrow’s current record is 6 hours, but give them two flights at once and they’ll smash that). Frankly, I’d not be worried about private/ public sleeping arrangements. I’d just be focused on holding my breath until I got home againHow comfortable are you sleeping in a room with strangers now that the delta variant is here? I'm walking with a friend who always prefers albergues and I'm wondering about whether a private room might be a better choice. We're both vaccinated.
would you sleep in an albergue now, or would you choose a more private option for covid safety?
OP can wear an N95 at any of the places you’ve mentioned but sleeping is another story. I am struggling with the same question and leaving in less than 2 weeks.Your ‘aving a giraffe right? I would not, at present, get on a bus, train or rapid transit, let alone get on a ‘plane and breathe that lovely recycled air. I would not choose to stand in a confined line of total strangers for however many hours it takes to get through Border Control ( Heathrow’s current record is 6 hours, but give them two flights at once and they’ll smash that). Frankly, I’d not be worried about private/ public sleeping arrangements. I’d just be focused on holding my breath until I got home again
How comfortable are you sleeping in a room with strangers now that the delta variant is here? I'm walking with a friend who always prefers albergues and I'm wondering about whether a private room might be a better choice. We're both vaccinated.
would you sleep in an albergue now, or would you choose a more private option for covid safety?
It will become endemic like the flu according to experts in the field. ( Sky News today)I don't expect the virus to vanish, but I'll feel better about traveling when it recedes from pandemic or epidemic levels.
I kinda agree with this one, I am prepared to live with the risk to me but feel uncomfortable with my risk to others. If I get to go from the UK at the end of August I'm taking enough LFt ( antigen tests) with me to test myself every 2/3 days, hopefully I don't get it, but if I do then the test will give me a heads up and I can start self isolating wherever I am and not be a potential threat to the places I pass through, it's not perfect and hopefully my skill level will take the % accuracy of the antigen test up to 80/90%, LFt tests are better at picking up high viral loads, if I had that then I would definitely be a risk for the places I visit.I don't expect the virus to vanish, but I'll feel better about traveling when it recedes from pandemic or epidemic levels.
This is a very good point, and one I have considered. The realty is that self isolation will be in a hotel or Air BnB with access to room service. An expensive prospect, and one that I must plan for and accept if needs be.Now if I was on camino and developed C19, I'd be fairly certain I wouldn't be hospitalised, but may just be wondering about where could I recuperate for a fortnight before I was allowed get home, walking on would not be an option, who would allow me under their roof?
I kinda agree with this one, I am prepared to live with the risk to me but feel uncomfortable with my risk to others.
Their vaccination program is probably close to passing the US and will probably surpass the UK before the end of July, unless it plateaus on 1st doses like the above two and Israel have done, so I feel comfortable with that side especially as I will go late August when at least 60-70% of Spanish adults will have had 2 jabs of Pfizer and Moderna + my partner who lives with me is Spanish and she goes home in 10 days time, and this could be a permanent stay this time, for me a choice of having two lives is coming up, maybe one in the UK for 3 months, then a month in Spain, and repeat and so on, I definitely don't see my time in Spain as a vacation but a big part of my future, my hopefully upcoming Camino is just one part of it.This is a very good point, and one I have considered. The realty is that self isolation will be in a hotel or Air BnB with access to room service. An expensive prospect, and one that I must plan for and accept if needs be.
This is also a key point in the calculus. I personally will not enter Spain as a tourist until they are substantially finished with their vaccination program. The risk to our hosts is simply too high for me to push myself upon them, willing or not.
Is it necessary for you and your friend to stay together overnight? If I was travelling with a friend and felt as you do, I would get private rooms and if your friend wants to overnight in albergues, he/she can. You meet for breakfast in the morning and everyone is happy. PS - I am Caminoing in September and will be staying in private accommodations.I was happy that I am double vaccinated and thought of the fact that, if I did catch C19 in one of its many forms, I would just feel unwell for a couple of days and then get on with life. Two of our friends, same age as me, recieved both their vaccines on the same day as we did. About a month ago they were tested positive for C19 D- variant. They were severely affected for two weeks, hacking painful coughing, sharp pains in their chests, severe sickness and diorrhea. A couple down from them were exactly the same. None needed to be taken into hospital.
Now if I was on camino and developed C19, I'd be fairly certain I wouldn't be hospitalised, but may just be wondering about where could I recuperate for a fortnight before I was allowed get home, walking on would not be an option, who would allow me under their roof?
Tinca is correct, I am now way too worried to consider a pilgrimage this year. His use of rhyming slang may not be understood by all, but surely you catch his drift.
I do realise we'll have to learn to live with C19 as we do with influenza but I'm not sure now is the moment to embrace it deliberately, I don't want to either catch it or unwittingly spread it. Dormitories are not the best place to keep ourselves or others safe.
You may have replied to the wrongperson, I never mentioned travelling with a friend. My point was that even vaccinated C19 can cause you to be very ill for quite a while albeit without much risk of hospitalisation, I'm not sure many establishments would want to accept you as a guest in those circumstances. You become an obvious and fairly easily spotted suoerspreader having caused damage to many others during the incubation period.Is it necessary for you and your friend to stay together overnight? If I was travelling with a friend and felt as you do, I would get private rooms and if your friend wants to overnight in albergues, he/she can. You meet for breakfast in the morning and everyone is happy. PS - I am Caminoing in September and will be staying in private accommodations.
Air on a plane is totally recycled with fresh air about every 3 minutes. The bus and train would be a problem unless all the windows could open.Your ‘aving a giraffe right? I would not, at present, get on a bus, train or rapid transit, let alone get on a ‘plane and breathe that lovely recycled air. I would not choose to stand in a confined line of total strangers for however many hours it takes to get through Border Control ( Heathrow’s current record is 6 hours, but give them two flights at once and they’ll smash that). Frankly, I’d not be worried about private/ public sleeping arrangements. I’d just be focused on holding my breath until I got home again
Would not bother me at all. I am fully vaccinated so what was the point of getting jabbed if I am still going to be hiding behind the sofa in case it gets me. Of course, that's easy for me to say as I won't be going this year. I may not be worried but my family is so for their sake, I would be very selfish going. Currently more concerned about catching the flu. Almost died from that back in the 70s when I was 21. Spent 3 months in hospitalHow comfortable are you sleeping in a room with strangers now that the delta variant is here? I'm walking with a friend who always prefers albergues and I'm wondering about whether a private room might be a better choice. We're both vaccinated.
would you sleep in an albergue now, or would you choose a more private option for covid safety?
Not true. Really.less virulent than the other variants, and current pressure on hospitals is reportedly more from medical personnel on some **much-needed** summer holidays than anything else
I agree @VNwalking …the variant is very contagious. Study out of Yale to support your statement!Not true. Really.
There are people dying everywhere right now.
And hospitals in places where this are surging are maxing out.
This variant is extremely contagious. And an albergue dorm is a perfect incubator.
If I were out there right now, I'd be under a church porch outside rather than in a communal dorm.
Yes, I did. Meant to respond to OP.You may have replied to the wrongperson, I never mentioned travelling with a friend. My point was that even vaccinated C19 can cause you to be very ill for quite a while albeit without much risk of hospitalisation, I'm not sure many establishments would want to accept you as a guest in those circumstances. You become an obvious and fairly easily spotted suoerspreader having caused damage to many others during the incubation period.
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