Mark Francis Auchincloss
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- From Braga to Santiago.
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So sorry to hear this but very happy OTOH that this accident obviously didn't lower your spirits.Attention: How unlucky can you get but just got bit by a dog when entering the hamlet of Villaviaje next to a group of houses.4 dogs approached me without any real malice but one was feeling lucky & took a chunk of my leg !! It's the first stage of the Camino before Cornatel Castle.
PS After super efficient emergency treatment at Ponferrada Hospital I'm already back where the taxi driver picked me up.
But
really loving every moment of the Camino, breathtaking beauty with every step !
I am so sorry to hear this, and especially as you had to have a surgery? What part of your leg? How much of a chunk? What does the dog look like? Is it reported? Is the dog now on a chain?I hope you are feeling better.
Was the dog vaccinated for rabies? If not, you should be taking a rabies series.
Yes that was my concern...but with cleaning,dressing & anti-biotic pills I'll be fine thanks....
You do not need to kill the foxes.... OK, so a quick dip into Wikipedia and to my surprise I read that large parts of Continental Europe, including Germany, Benelux, France, Spain and Portugal, are currently declared free of rabies. When did that happen and how many foxes had to be killed, I wonder.
Spain is actually considered a 'rabies free' country by the WHO, see this graphic http://www.who.int/rabies/Presence_dog_transmitted_human_Rabies_2014.png?ua=1
The last case was reported in 2013 (the penultimate case was in 1978) and that dog had been imported from Morocco, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_rabies#Spain and also https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rabies-in-spain-update-14-june-2013
Buen Camino, SY
Glad to read that you are feeling ok and walking again already, @MyDestinationGalicia. The comments on rabies reminded me a bit of the BBC mini-series that aired in the 1980s ... I had totally forgotten about it. OK, so a quick dip into Wikipedia and to my surprise I read that large parts of Continental Europe, including Germany, Benelux, France, Spain and Portugal, are currently declared free of rabies. When did that happen and how many foxes had to be killed, I wonder.
I actually received a three-injection, lifetime rabies vaccine before moving overseas for a decade or so ago. The clinic at the US Department of State administered the shots when we were moving to BELGIUM. I know...go figure...!
Apparently, the nurse consulted an alphabetical list of countries and what vaccinations were required. Unfortunately BELGIUM is listed (single-spaced) immediately above BENIN (in Western Africa). So, we got the first injection.
When we returned a week later for the second injection, the error was caught by a second nurse, but a decision was made to follow through with the three-shot sequence.
So, I have had "my shots." No need to worry about rabies... Now, I will worry about everything else...
PS After super efficient emergency treatment at Ponferrada Hospital I'm already back where the taxi driver picked me up.
But
really loving every moment of the Camino, breathtaking beauty with every step !
I was thinking the same thing.No, you won't be OK if the dog had rabies. You will die. There is no cure for rabies. In the U.S., dogs that bite are quarantined if their vaccination history is unknown, or they are killed and their heads are sent off for rabies testing, and the humans start immediate vaccination with the rabies series. No human survives rabies! Don't be overconfident. Yes, the odds are with you that the dog did not have rabies, even if it was not vaccinated for rabies. But it is indeed a crapshoot.
Hola SY - useful information for future and current pilgrims.Spain is actually considered a 'rabies free' country by the WHO, see this graphic http://www.who.int/rabies/Presence_dog_transmitted_human_Rabies_2014.png?ua=1
The last case was reported in 2013 (the penultimate case was in 1978) and that dog had been imported from Morocco, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_rabies#Spain and also https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rabies-in-spain-update-14-june-2013
Buen Camino, SY
I actually received a three-injection, lifetime rabies vaccine before moving overseas for a decade or so ago. The clinic at the US Department of State administered the shots when we were moving to BELGIUM. I know...go figure...!
Apparently, the nurse consulted an alphabetical list of countries and what vaccinations were required. Unfortunately BELGIUM is listed (single-spaced) immediately above BENIN (in Western Africa). So, we got the first injection.
When we returned a week later for the second injection, the error was caught by a second nurse, but a decision was made to follow through with the three-shot sequence.
So, I have had "my shots." No need to worry about rabies... Now, I will worry about everything else...
I know this was off-topic slightly, but it is a funny story that does sort of relate...
...So, I have had "my shots." No need to worry about rabies...
Good news to hear.Spain is actually considered a 'rabies free' country by the WHO, see this graphic http://www.who.int/rabies/Presence_dog_transmitted_human_Rabies_2014.png?ua=1
The last case was reported in 2013 (the penultimate case was in 1978) and that dog had been imported from Morocco, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_rabies#Spain and also https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rabies-in-spain-update-14-june-2013
Buen Camino, SY
I actually received a three-injection, lifetime rabies vaccine before moving overseas for a decade or so ago. The clinic at the US Department of State administered the shots when we were moving to BELGIUM. I know...go figure...!
Apparently, the nurse consulted an alphabetical list of countries and what vaccinations were required. Unfortunately BELGIUM is listed (single-spaced) immediately above BENIN (in Western Africa). So, we got the first injection.
When we returned a week later for the second injection, the error was caught by a second nurse, but a decision was made to follow through with the three-shot sequence.
So, I have had "my shots." No need to worry about rabies... Now, I will worry about everything else...
I know this was off-topic slightly, but it is a funny story that does sort of relate...
Bc sorry to hear this as I passed the pack of dogs also no bites though. I was in obarco. Yesterday thurs. I took the train to ourensr for a festival. A few days then back to obarco. To continue. I like your attitude. Hope I get to meet you some where. Pension dol lat is great place to visit/sleep. I may try Gloria Alburgue once I return to CI. I wander on.....Attention: How unlucky can you get but just got bit by a dog when entering the hamlet of Villaviaje next to a group of houses.4 dogs approached me without any real malice but one was feeling lucky & took a chunk of my leg !! It's the first stage of the Camino before Cornatel Castle.
PS After super efficient emergency treatment at Ponferrada Hospital I'm already back where the taxi driver picked me up.
But
really loving every moment of the Camino, breathtaking beauty with every step !
Glad I skipped that flight with a stop over in Belgium ha ha
Glad I skipped that flight with a stop over in Belgium ha ha
It looks like as far as rabies in the USA, bats cause the most deaths.
... from dogs; and bats too.So, I have had "my shots." No need to worry about rabies...
I actually received a three-injection, lifetime rabies vaccine before moving overseas for a decade or so ago. The clinic at the US Department of State administered the shots when we were moving to BELGIUM. I know...go figure...!
Apparently, the nurse consulted an alphabetical list of countries and what vaccinations were required. Unfortunately BELGIUM is listed (single-spaced) immediately above BENIN (in Western Africa). So, we got the first injection.
When we returned a week later for the second injection, the error was caught by a second nurse, but a decision was made to follow through with the three-shot sequence.
So, I have had "my shots." No need to worry about rabies... Now, I will worry about everything else...
I know this was off-topic slightly, but it is a funny story that does sort of relate...
Sorry to say but your rabies is not a lifetime vaccine. There is no such thing. After a run-in with bats I, too, received an aggressive vaccine series. But we must consult the public health officials again for any future run-ins.I actually received a three-injection, lifetime rabies vaccine before moving overseas for a decade or so ago. The clinic at the US Department of State administered the shots when we were moving to BELGIUM. I know...go figure...!
Apparently, the nurse consulted an alphabetical list of countries and what vaccinations were required. Unfortunately BELGIUM is listed (single-spaced) immediately above BENIN (in Western Africa). So, we got the first injection.
When we returned a week later for the second injection, the error was caught by a second nurse, but a decision was made to follow through with the three-shot sequence.
So, I have had "my shots." No need to worry about rabies... Now, I will worry about everything else...
I know this was off-topic slightly, but it is a funny story that does sort of relate...
Spain has one of the better medical systems in the world - equal to that of other European and North American countries.
Plenty of dog tips on the forum. Top tip: don't turn your back on a dog and just edge away until you clear its territory.
There are not EU regulations covering dog biting. Every country has it's own definition of what breed constitutes what is a dangerous dog and what the owner has to be obliged to do with it .......... Apparently the EU penalties for the owners of dogs who bite are serious.
As an American I'm not surprised at all but what exactly do they mean by efficiency? How wisely they spend there money?It's better, actually. According to a 2014 Bloomberg study of world health care efficiency, Spain ranked third out of the 58 nations examined, behind Hong Kong and Singapore.
Canada was 16th and Mexico was 17th. The US didn't make it into the top 40.
As an American I'm not surprised at all but what exactly do they mean by efficiency? How wisely they spend there money?
How quickly you get the right medical care and or procedure done?
How many people they don't kill by accident?
( I just read an article that said medical errors are the third leading cause of death in the USA ) scary stuff
Plenty of dog tips on the forum. Top tip: don't turn your back on a dog and just edge away until you clear its territory.
..., I was tempted to bring up the topic of Echinococcus multilocularis. Its spread and increased health risk is apparently a result of successfully eradicating rabies in fox populations in European regions. But Wikipedia and Google tell me that this health scare has apparently not yet reached the Iberian peninsula. Be it as it may, I avoid eating wild berries growing near ground level after having received stern warnings from an Alpine guide several years ago. ...
I was bitten by a dog on a leash in downtown Longrono in September 2012, a Golden Retriever of all breeds. I thought they were the gentlest of all breeds. The owner (guardian, if one lives in Boulder, Colorado) assured me that the dog had all shots up to date so I washed the three puncture wounds in my forearm with soap and water and went on with life. I haven't started foaming at the mouth yet so I guess all is well. One would think that at my age I would not take anything for granted. Glad that you are well and walking on.Attention: How unlucky can you get but just got bit by a dog when entering the hamlet of Villaviaje next to a group of houses.4 dogs approached me without any real malice but one was feeling lucky & took a chunk of my leg !! It's the first stage of the Camino before Cornatel Castle.
PS After super efficient emergency treatment at Ponferrada Hospital I'm already back where the taxi driver picked me up.
But
really loving every moment of the Camino, breathtaking beauty with every step !
The ironic thing about this thread is the member lives in Galicia where we have a load of dogs running around. Thus I thought they would not have needed to be told how to behave when confronted with dogs.
There are not EU regulations covering dog biting. Every country has it's own definition of what breed constitutes what is a dangerous dog and what the owner has to be obliged to do with it .
The Spanish do not have one system of health care. Every autonomous community runs it's own health facilities. Thus not all things are equal. I give a link to WIKI which will explain more about the formation of the system, which is quite recent.
According to La Voz, Galicia does not do so badly statistically. But those figures do not give a complete story.
Ironically the very new Universitario Lucus Augusti,in Lugo was recently flooded. A building in Galicia that is not water proof! Rain entering the building even down the lift shafts.
MyD; Glad you are on the mend
Thanks for the correction, Ribeirasacra. I must have misunderstood something from that incident about a decade ago. But I definitely remember that the last time I walked the Invierno, the owner of the casa rural in Villavieja told us that he has wanted to file a denuncia for years because that dog terrorizes the guests in his casa rural. He hasn't done it because it makes for bad neighborly relations but it does suggest he has some remedy under Spanish law. Do you know anything about that?
Do not rely on any farm dog, or it's owner abiding by the law.This thread makes me feel much better. I was bitten yesterday... Not a deep wound... More like a scratch... But rabbies was my main concern. Since I ran...I am still trying to track down the owner to double check. I'm inclined to belive that the dog has had his shots ( as required by law) but a reassurance frim the owner would make me feel much better...
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