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And deprive someone else from using your bed!That’s crap that you have to inform them a day ahead of time and you typically don’t find out about that until after you have booked. If I don’t show up just charge me. Don’t want to have to worry about who I have to inform while hiking the day prior. It is what it is though. Just have to deal I guess
Deprive? You mean the bed that I paid for. Who said I wasn’t showing up? I just don’t want to have to call and confirm something I’ve already booked.And deprive someone else from using your bed!
Easy answers to that. Other hotels have it figured out. I’m all about accommodating as many folks as possible with as many travels styles as possible. But if I pay in advance and sign a contract with a hotel I should have my room reserved until a designated time. Simple as that. If I don’t show up by then charge me because I broke the contract. Same for basically any hotel throughout the world.My experience last year was that while you could book ahead no deposit was required. All they asked was a reconfirmation the day of arrival. After I arrived many of the hosts told me that while they had a “full house” in the morning 20% of the reservations were no shows. It’s a very difficult situation for these hosts as many deal in cash only. There’s no penalty for a no-show.
Their re-confirmation protocol is their method of dealing with fickle guests.
Indeed - their house - their rules.My experience last year was that while you could book ahead no deposit was required. All they asked was a reconfirmation the day of arrival. After I arrived many of the hosts told me that while they had a “full house” in the morning 20% of the reservations were no shows. It’s a very difficult situation for these hosts as many deal in cash only. There’s no penalty for a no-show.
Their re-confirmation protocol is their method of dealing with fickle guests.
Yes. No payment was taken. They just ask if you reserve to follow up and let them know. Today I learned that the albergue owner was able to find my friend another space somewhere else. So it all worked out.My experience last year was that while you could book ahead no deposit was required. All they asked was a reconfirmation the day of arrival. After I arrived many of the hosts told me that while they had a “full house” in the morning 20% of the reservations were no shows. It’s a very difficult situation for these hosts as many deal in cash only. There’s no penalty for a no-show.
Their re-confirmation protocol is their method of dealing with fickle guests.
I've been warned about this, by the auberge, for my July booking - just set a phone reminder the day before.That’s crap that you have to inform them a day ahead of time and you typically don’t find out about that until after you have booked. If I don’t show up just charge me. Don’t want to have to worry about who I have to inform while hiking the day prior. It is what it is though. Just have to deal I guess
Putting yourself in other's shoes and being just a little considerate is not so hard as all that.That’s crap that you have to inform them a day ahead of time and you typically don’t find out about that until after you have booked. If I don’t show up just charge me. Don’t want to have to worry about who I have to inform while hiking the day prior. It is what it is though. Just have to deal I guess
The owners of many small Camino albergues don't take prepayment. They don't even take credit card details when they confirm bookings. Many pilgrims from Spain and other parts of Europe don't even have credit cards. It is a question of trust and considerate and sensible behaviour not only between pilgrims but also between pilgrims and albergue owners and in both directions. And that's the easy answer throughout the Camino world.Easy answers to that. Other hotels have it figured out. I’m all about accommodating as many folks as possible with as many travels styles as possible. But if I pay in advance and sign a contract with a hotel I should have my room reserved until a designated time. Simple as that. If I don’t show up by then charge me because I broke the contract. Same for basically any hotel throughout the world.
But if I pay in advance and sign a contract with a hotel I should have my room reserved until a designated time. Simple as that. If I don’t show up by then charge me because I broke the contract. Same for basically any hotel throughout the world.
I also thought it was unnecessarily hostile, but since a word search reveals it has appeared in more than 200 threads, I left it up. I am surprised that such a tiny little issue, like being asked to call to confirm a reservation, has produced such a visceral and angry reaction.Surprised that this has not been picked up by the mods or other members.
My husband was working as a hospitalero last fall in a Pueblo on the CF and said some pilgrims do make several reservations per day if they can do so without leaving a card and just don't show up. The alternative is not to take reservations. His albergue did not take reservations and did not have a phone in the facility and he was only full two nights last fall during a very busy time. A few nights he had no pilgrims during this busy time.As far as I know, no one has disagreed with you. The other posters here are talking about something different. They are talking about the MANY pilgrims who call ahead and reserve on the phone, are not charged for their room, and then just don’t show up. These owners do not have the means or the custom of charging ahead of time; they rely on honesty and trust. So if you want to be able to pay for your room ahead of time and then not show up, you might want to plan your trip to “basically any hotel throughout the world.”
If you walk a camino, you will see that this is a real issue and it makes life very difficult for the owners of small establishments. Over and over, I see owners who have turned people away relying on the word of the person who called a few days before. And then they wind up with empty beds. Some pilgrims just make reservations in three or four places at different distances so they can walk as long as they want. Others make a reservation in a private place, have their backpack delivered to the albergue and then go pick up the bag, tell the owner they’ve changed their plans, and move on to the public albergue in town that doesn’t take bag transfers.
I personally think it is surprising that these owners continue to take reservations without a guarantee, but I think the request to call ahead to confirm on the day of the reservation is so trivial and so reasonable, that I cannot fathom how it produced such an angry response!
I also thought it was unnecessarily hostile, but since a word search reveals it has appeared in more than 200 threads, I left it up. I am surprised that such a tiny little issue, like being asked to call to confirm a reservation, has produced such a visceral and angry reaction.
Wow. How am I being lazy in this again? I planned ahead and booked a room. I’ve already confirmed it when I paid for it. Where is the laziness in that? Please explain.Putting yourself in other's shoes and being just a little considerate is not so hard as all that.
It's not only the owner you're inconveniencing, it's all the other pilgrims who get turned away because the albergue is saving you a bed - one that you are too lazy to confirm.
But many do. I can book places all the way to the end point, which I’m currently doing. Anyway this is not worth arguing over. My personal choice is to book in advance. My personal opinion is that a double confirmation is not required and inconvenient for me so I’ll avoid those places. Simple as that.The owners of many small Camino albergues don't take prepayment. They don't even take credit card details when they confirm bookings. Many pilgrims from Spain and other parts of Europe don't even have credit cards. It is a question of trust and considerate and sensible behaviour not only between pilgrims but also between pilgrims and albergue owners and in both directions. And that's the easy answer throughout the Camino world.
It was talking about a policy that was crap. It wasn’t targeting any pilgrims on here or on the way or anything you can come up with to be offended by.Do forum members really find it acceptable to have the OP's statement met with the response 'that's crap'? I certainly don't and it doesn't seem to fit with my experience of people walking the Camino - whether for religious or other reasons. In my view such retorts are just rude and intimidating. Surprised that this has not been picked up by the mods or other members. Please can we avoid macho language please, it really has no place here. The forum has an ethos of being respectful and welcoming to each other, let's keep it that way.
@Sandy1, I'm neither debating you nor am I disagreeing with you. I was just providing additional information about the situation. In fact, I thought that @Quinranda's info that "If you do book in Zubiri, most places are asking you to confirm the day before" was a particular useful piece of information. In the past, the majority of people did not call or email for a bed until the day before. If people call or email several days or even weeks before their arrival, as it appears to happen more frequently this year, it's good to know that they should confirm again the day before their arrival.Look forward to debating you about the next topic since everything I post I seem to get a response from you on how you disagree
Don’t worry about it. I’m leaving the board.@Sandy1, I'm neither debating you nor am I disagreeing with you. I was just providing additional information about the current situation. In fact, I thought that @Quinranda's info that "if you do book in Zubiri, most places are asking you to confirm the day before" was a particular useful piece of information. In the past, the majority of people did not call or email for a bed until the day before. If people call or email weeks before their arrival, as it appears to be done more frequently this year, it's good to know that they should confirm again the day before their arrival.
I don’t know what part of this you cannot or will not understand. No one is talking about losing a room that you have paid for. If you pay in advance, you can show up whenever you want.It was talking about a policy that was crap. It wasn’t targeting any pilgrims on here or on the way or anything you can come up with to be offended by.
You can send Ivar a PM and he will take care of it for you.Don’t worry about it. I’m leaving the board.
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