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650 grams sounds like a huge amount. That's over 4 kilos per week! - sounds crazy to me. I've read that any excess protein consumed is burned for calories. That's some very expensive calories. I'm 72 and I never eat 650 grams of protein per day, even when I was on Camino. Protein overconsumption translates to excess greenhouse gases as arable land is used very inefficiently to grow animal protein - a very good reason to be prudent.I am bringing a satchet of 25 grms of protein to dissolve in my drinking cantina once a day on trips, as I need a a small amount to keep my intake sufficiently high.
The need for protein is higher after the 60 yr mark, remember that due to the thermogenese when metabolised up to 30% of protein goes to break down the long chains to absorbable matter. But many other that meat sources can be sought after: chick peas, sesame paste (Tahin) on bread w/ hony, better than peanut . Eggs and oats !
You will be needing 1,4 gram of protein pr kilo body weight a day...
you will need 650 grams of lean chicken meat to satisfy that by animal protein alone , or 575 grams of prime English beef. That is a lot & will really fill your tummy and make you sluggish....
My favourite crave is a packet of almonds pr day, something that I usually ration at home to 14 almonds/ day. On the Camiono, I go nuts....
It is!Spanish Tortilla is some kind of camino protein superfood!
I don't know. The stuff seems to aid in recovering faster when lifting heavy, and I throw back two servings (whey powder) a day when trying to bench more.Like Mike, I'm a vegetarian. And I do fine on the Camino--actually getting much more protein than usual, thanks to those tortillas!
Relax, and I'd suggest leaving the protein powder home unless there's medical need for it.
(Why there is so much anxiety in our culture about getting enough protein may be more about clever marketing than anything else. But that's off topic.)
Ah well. Yes, agreed--that level of exertion and muscle building's very different, Mark. But for most of us it's just expensive calories, even on the Camino. (I don't know. The stuff seems to aid in recovering faster when lifting heavy, and I throw back two servings (whey powder) a day when trying to bench more.
I definitely wouldn't haul a container of the stuff on me while walking the Camino. Just too impractical.Ah well. Yes, agreed--that level of exertion and muscle building's very different, Mark. But for most of us it's just expensive calories, even on the Camino. (So long as we're eating enough tortilla super-food!)
If potatoes are said to be a source of protein, you'll get a lot of potato protein on the Camino. Not only are the Spanish tortillas great, but if you eat meals from the pilgrims' menus, you'll get a big pile of french fries (a.k.a. chips) with almost every meal.I read somewhere today that there is more protein in potato than previously thought. If this is true then the humble Spanish Tortilla is some kind of camino protein superfood!
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Hi Suzie,I am vegetarian. gluten intolerant and have to have B12 injections every 6 weeks as my body is lacking the ' intrinsic factor ' which means I would become anaemic very quickly so I keep an eye on my protein levels on a daily basis so am a tad worried that I will ingest enough each day. While I am training, I burn around 200 calories per hour of walking ....am expecting to be quite hungry !!
Thanks for that Mike, I never thought about tinned pulses but that would be a good daily snack and as for magnesium, I have a spray I use on my aching muscle daily_ I might start on tablets too!Hi Suzie,
On Camino, maybe control your walking hours each day so as not to get too worn out. Have days off frequently. Burning calories is one thing, but the extra stress of walking every day for weeks on end is a whole other level of effort for your body to deal with and to recover from. Weariness can build up and wear you down, make you vulnerable.
I carried trail mix which I made myself and "energy" bars which I found in the breakfast cereal section of Spanish supermarkets (stock up in the bigger towns). Some of the energy bars are chocolate-coated! Crazy for a normal breakfast but loaded with calories for snacks. 200 calories an hour isn't an unreasonable amount. My phone app tells me I burn more than that per hour on my daily walk.
You'll have to keep an eye on your iron intake if you're anaemic. There's iron in dark chocolate - many walkers eat it for the calories alone. I took a good quality iron supplement while on Camino, as I'm vegetarian and I was concerned on my first Camino because I heard that the Spanish diet is very meat-heavy and expected I might end up on a patchy diet which wasn't as varied as I was used to. Non-vegetarians often don't realise how rich fresh food (salad!) is in minerals and vitamins. You'll have to work at it to get a varied diet of fresh food on Camino. Cooked vegetables can easily have the goodies boiled out of them. Cooked veggies no substitute for fresh. I used to ask waiters to combine ingredients from different dishes on the menu so I ended up with a properly interesting salad. You'll find some interesting items in even smaller supermarkets along the Camino - cans of chick peas, jars of chick pea or bean-based "stew", and large jars of crunchy salad! Yes salad in jars - bean shoots and other selected goodies in a mild brine. Pour off the brine and dig in. Weird but delicious and surprisingly good stuff. You'll eat a lot of oranges on Camino - every second bar has an elaborate orange-juicing machine. Fresh. OJ. Never mind the sugar, you'll burn that up, go for the vitamin C to help your bod to repair itself every day.
When I got back home, I had a medical checkup. I told my doctor about muscle stiffness, tightness while walking, she said "magnesium!" Next time I will take a very good supplement which contains magnesium as well as iron - in fact I take a tablet every day now. On Camino, I assume that unusual demands on one's body create these extra needs, which can result, it seems, in these unusual temporary mild deficiencies. As a vegetarian on Camino, my diet was inconsistent and not as varied as I was accustomed to, because the culture is different. Protein is easy, minerals & vitamins - not so much. Your diet is so specific that I suggest these few extra strategies.
Buen Camino, - Mike
650 grams sounds like a huge amount. That's over 4 kilos per week! - sounds crazy to me. I've read that any excess protein consumed is burned for calories. That's some very expensive calories. I'm 72 and I never eat 650 grams of protein per day, even when I was on Camino. Protein overconsumption translates to excess greenhouse gases as arable land is used very inefficiently to grow animal protein - a very good reason to be prudent.
Hunger and appetite are two different things. Hunger is a physical need and appetite is an abstraction based on habit.You can't reduce individual needs to ideological/political abstractions - you personally seem to be perfectly fine within these decisions ; I start being ill when I'm not getting enough red meat.
PS I think the sensible "no politics" rule is being stretched here ...
Hunger and appetite are two different things. Hunger is a physical need and appetite is an abstraction based on habit.
Unless there's some individual pathology at play, then everyone's nutritional needs are the same. Hunger is just chemistry, it seems to me. However, one's personal preferences can be culturally influenced or can be idiosyncratic and can become habits. These preferences, I think, can be illogical and/or even harmful on a global scale. Some foods can become addictive - there's a global epidemic of type 2 diabetes on the rampage at the moment. One major reason is that we have evolved to over-respond to some sugars which are ubiquitous in our modern world but occur very rarely in an un-industrialised environment.I'm sorry, but that's just ideology -- and BTW it has exactly nothing to do with what I wrote -- whatever my personal, individual, nutritional needs may be, you simply can't guess them online from the other side of the world.
I make no attempt whatsoever to guess your own, and I'd appreciate similar courtesy on your part.
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