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Hi! I broke the stage to Roncesvalles in two staying in Valcarlos overnight on the 'road route'. Although it's referred to as that, as I remember it's only really about 7kms walking immediately on the roadside after leaving Valcarlos. If you are doing it early morning on leaving Valcarlos the traffic isn't too bad (especially at weekends I assume) but do take care and be visible. After that it's a steep climb, but through nice woodland on a single file track. Very nice indeed. Day 1 to Valcarlos from SJPP is a nice introduction with no major obstacles I can remember. Buen Camino!arcalis1000 said:I'm also planning the Camino next May and was wondering if the road route is easier as I wanted to do it in one day. Alternatively I am thinking about starting from Roncesvalles as the first stage looks really hard!
And on the Valcarlos route to Roncesvalles it is probably equally steep, but unlike the Napoleon you are only really walking uphill to Roncesvalles rather than over the hill then down into the village.CaminoKris2013 said:So when you all mean steep...can you describe it further? I'm not worried about the uphill, but downhill does cause me concern and I really want to start from SJPP. I am planning on breaking the first leg (SJPP to Roncesville) in 2...wanting to ease the beginning and also enjoy the scenary over the Pyrenees.
CaminoKris2013
There is very precise description of the two routes here:
The Col is 1433m and Ibaneta is about 1058m
http://www.rutasnavarra.com/asp/asp_rut ... =12&tipo=2
Route 1, Por Ibaneta, at 4.12 k has a grade of 11.67%
Route 2, Camino "Viejo", at 4.81 k has a grade of 13.3%
When I did this at age 65 I made to to Orisson in just over 2 hours and stayed over night. I left the next morning after breakfast and was in Roncevalles before noon.
jeff001 said:I am always surprised at the number of people who consider this to be such a difficult stage. The great majority of it is on or along roads so the gradient is not really a problem. When I did this at age 65 I made to to Orisson in just over 2 hours and stayed over night. I left the next morning after breakfast and was in Roncevalles before noon.
His first words to me were: "What took you so long?"
Based on the elevation of peak and the Roncesville, and distance from peak, it would average at 20 degree of slope. That's pretty steep.So when you all mean steep...can you describe it further? I'm not worried about the uphill, but downhill does cause me concern and I really want to start from SJPP. I am planning on breaking the first leg (SJPP to Roncesville) in 2...wanting to ease the beginning and also enjoy the scenary over the Pyrenees.
CaminoKris2013
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