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Hi, it's not necessary to walk that distance every day. When you have the time take that time. Enjoy every step you take.Hmmm, really, it's necessary to walk that far every day? I'm not planning to at all. I haven't done serious training, I'm not particularly fit , in fact I've had some nasty health issues really slow me down since I booked my trip. So if I want a rest day, or to walk just a few kms in a day, I certainly will~ there seem to be plenty of places to stay options closer together than that. And when I travel, I love just sitting and taking in my surrounding. spending time in churches, and people watching. I look forward to that being quite a part of my soon-to-start Camino
Hmmm, really, it's necessary to walk that far every day? I'm not planning to at all. I haven't done serious training, I'm not particularly fit , in fact I've had some nasty health issues really slow me down since I booked my trip. So if I want a rest day, or to walk just a few kms in a day, I certainly will~ there seem to be plenty of places to stay options closer together than that. And when I travel, I love just sitting and taking in my surrounding. spending time in churches, and people watching. I look forward to that being quite a part of my soon-to-start Camino
Hi, Monique and other Camino walkers. Thanks for asking and answering the question about the first day's hike from SJPdP. Monique, did you finish your Camino and what route did you hike from SJPdP? I'm planning to start my Camino on August 16, with reservations for SJPdP, Orrison and Roncesvalles. And reservations about hiking over the Pyrenees. I'm in good shape for a just turning 70 year old woman, wiry and tenacious. However, I'm a lightweight, even though I walk daily and have been walking 5-9 miles with a pack in my area, the Sierra Foothills in Northern California, USA, very hilly, and also hot. I'm still thinking about alternate transportation over the hill! In my past life, I bicycled on coastal roads with traffic and steep hills, backpacked in the mountains. Now I live in this life and have to consider how to start the Camino and enjoy it. Thanks, all, for your sage responses and humor. Buen Camino.Hi all!
First of all; this forum rocks! It's extremely helpfull during the preparation for my first Camino, starting on May 10th. Thank you so much, so far.
My biggest concern at this moment is the first stretch to Roncessvalles. I'm planning on staying at Orrisson to cut myself some slack and it seems to ge great experience. But still... I saw some great footage on YouTube and was under the impression that it was gradually steep. After reading some threads here on the forum I start to doubt. Shouldn't I take the Valcarlosroute? I don't want to wear myself out during the first two days nor take a restingday in Roncessvalles. I live in the Netherlands, it's quite difficult to train uphill, since we have no hills or mountains of Amy significance.
I'm reasonably fit, I can walk 20 k's in a day, but I'd still like to hear any opinion about these first two days.
Monique
I went that route last autumn, stopping at Orisson for the night and taking the less steep way down from the col. I was almost 72. It was not hard. Please do not forget that you can choose to send your backpack ahead from SJPDP to Orisson and from Orisson to Roncesvalles without a problem. It would ease the walk over the mountain and might ease your mind about being able to do it. The places you stay at will help you with calling the transport service.Hi, Monique and other Camino walkers. Thanks for asking and answering the question about the first day's hike from SJPdP. Monique, did you finish your Camino and what route did you hike from SJPdP? I'm planning to start my Camino on August 16, with reservations for SJPdP, Orrison and Roncesvalles. And reservations about hiking over the Pyrenees. I'm in good shape for a just turning 70 year old woman, wiry and tenacious. However, I'm a lightweight, even though I walk daily and have been walking 5-9 miles with a pack in my area, the Sierra Foothills in Northern California, USA, very hilly, and also hot. I'm still thinking about alternate transportation over the hill! In my past life, I bicycled on coastal roads with traffic and steep hills, backpacked in the mountains. Now I live in this life and have to consider how to start the Camino and enjoy it. Thanks, all, for your sage responses and humor. Buen Camino.
Hi, Monique and other Camino walkers. Thanks for asking and answering the question about the first day's hike from SJPdP. Monique, did you finish your Camino and what route did you hike from SJPdP? I'm planning to start my Camino on August 16, with reservations for SJPdP, Orrison and Roncesvalles. And reservations about hiking over the Pyrenees. I'm in good shape for a just turning 70 year old woman, wiry and tenacious. However, I'm a lightweight, even though I walk daily and have been walking 5-9 miles with a pack in my area, the Sierra Foothills in Northern California, USA, very hilly, and also hot. I'm still thinking about alternate transportation over the hill! In my past life, I bicycled on coastal roads with traffic and steep hills, backpacked in the mountains. Now I live in this life and have to consider how to start the Camino and enjoy it. Thanks, all, for your sage responses and humor. Buen Camino.
Hi Monique,
I was 60 1st Camino, (April 19th) with total body fat way above where it should be. I did training walks with my backpack and nordic track, but not mountains, as none local. As others have said the steepest climb is first few km until Orisson. I was dreading it because my body doesn't like ascents, and I was bothered by shin splints prior to departure, but I was fine and huffed and puffed my way up the mountain. I was lucky to get a bed at Orisson as I had not booked or even planned to stay there. I think you will be absolutely fine, (and seem very fit training at 5 km/hr) with walking entire first stage, but do stop at Orisson, and make sure you book. From Orisson to Roncervalles eazy peezee . Depending on weather, the crossing maybe closed and the SJPDP pilgrim office will advise. For me, blue skies and temp around 60 F - a most perfect day on top of the Pyrenees, a meal cooked by French Chef and good company, and I wish the same for you.
Buen Camino,
Janice
Mazzy: if your are doing the Camino Frances, I believe the only other remarkable hill is O Cebreiro, around 150km before Santiago. Everything else is not too challenging
(400 units / 5000 same units) x 100% = 8% or an angle of 4.6 degrees400metres incline over 5kms is about 45 degree steep
(90 / 1000) x 100 = 9% or an angle of 5.1 degrees90ms over 1km is about 85 degree steep
My experience was that the steepest, most challenging part was before OrissonThe average gradient for the walk from SJPP to Col de Lepoeder is about 6%. The steepest 5k (last 5k to the summit of course) is about 8%. Then it's downhill all the way to roncesvalles. Your current training should stand you in good stead for your journey.
A profile of the Route Napoleon is shown at postThe average gradient for the walk from SJPP to Col de Lepoeder is about 6%. The steepest 5k (last 5k to the summit of course) is about 8%.
trying to tell someone the gradient of a hill who doesnt have them is like trying to tell someone with no legs what shoe size they would be.
0%trying to tell someone the gradient of a hill who doesnt have them is like trying to tell someone with no legs what shoe size they would be.
Hey Arn I like that story and the photo what a fetching man you lookOn occasion, I like to go back to the genesis of a thread and thank folks as a Way if saying “hello”.
As to the comments concerning hiking in the Netherlands, South Florida,etc.
A very good friend is a Korps Mariniers Colonel. On a visit to his unit at Texel (elev 7 ft/2m) he had a few days off so we decided to leave the beaches and go hiking in the “mountains”. The next morning (lunch pack on) we stood at the foot of the The Vaalserberg a hill with a height of 322.4 metres (1,058 ft) above NAP and the highest point in mainland Netherlands. Nice hike, good food on the top ( from our pack not the shops) we walked into the forest to dine. A year later he was posted to St Maarten in the Caribbean. “Now”, he said, we will climb the truly highest mountain in the Netherland Mount Scenery ( 887 m (2,910 ft). Since we sailed across to Saba from St Maarten the five days was filled with hiking, sailing and scuba.
As to training in South Florida well...best bet the Akoya condos at 492 ft/ 150 m.
So to get back on point. If you haven’t true mountains where you live, hiking the Napoleon can be a challenge. That said, regardless of your “perceived” fitness level take the first five days slowly. The stages shown in most guides are rough estimates of a “typical” day on the Camino. Those of us that have walked the Way multiple times will tell you that each Camino is different and seldom ever typical.
Buen Csmino
Arn
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